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Member Section => Tactical Rifle & Carbine => Topic started by: fightingquaker13 on July 21, 2009, 01:11:19 AM
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OK.
Thanks to your advice, I bought the AR. I need "Hi Cap" mags. Do I go with polymer magpuls or stainless C-mags? I can't afford a lot, about a half dozen is my limit for now unless I find some used. Which would you reccomend for being able to store long term loaded (28/30), and tough enough to deal with humidity and salt?
Thanks
FQ13
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A lot of guys swear by Magpul. I've heard guys are using them in the sandbox. I would consider getting 20 rounders for prone position.
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IMHO, Magpul Pmags, without question. Not only would the salt not hurt a polymer mag, but each Pmag comes with a cover which depresses a fully loaded mag to take the pressure off the feed lips. The cover is also a guide to see if the feed lips have spread any. Plus you're so big on Glock, what's another few pieces of plastic added to the arsenal? ;D
Posted this before and yes it has little to do with use in the field but it does say something for their strength and durability. It's also fun to see stuff run over with a truck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCFXcOOb4jc
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IMHO, Magpul Pmags, without question. Not only would the salt not hurt a polymer mag, but each Pmag comes with a cover which depresses a fully loaded mag to take the pressure off the feed lips. The cover is also a guide to see if the feed lips have spread any. Plus you're so big on Glock, what's another few pieces of plastic added to the arsenal? ;D
Posted this before and yes it has little to do with use in the field but it does say something for their strength and durability. It's also fun to see stuff run over with a truck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCFXcOOb4jc
Thanks Tex, as I've said before, I don't care if it's ugly I just care if it works. The P-mags seem like the way to go. Just like the Glock, ugly as hell, but never even once in 17 years did it fail to go bang unless thier was an ammo failure. And thats literally five times out of God knows how many thousands of rounds I sent down my G17. The magpuls seem like the way to go for long term storage, SHFTF weapons.
FQ13
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Either brand is good but if you check local gun and surplus stores you should be able to find Gov. Surplus mags for less money which would let you buy more of them. look them over before you buy, reject any that have dents or that the Mag follower does not slide smoothly and you should be alright, of course you WILL have to shoot in order to test them.
But as they say, any excuse is a good excuse ! ;D
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I second the G.I. surplus mags. I only paid $5 apiece for mine but that was quite awhile ago. I wanted one more mag so I got a Brownells brand with chrome silicon spring. They're better than G.I. quality. They have mags with stainless springs too.
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If memory serves me correctly, which is questionable sometimes, I think Bane is big on the Brownell mags, but they are a bit more $.
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+1 on surplus if you want to save $.
I like the C mags, but I live in Michigan. I do not have any of the MagPuls. But I do have too many 30 rnd mags when all I shoot are the 5, 10 and 20 rounders -- most of the time with just 5 shots in them. You need the short mags to shoot the prone course of fire. The longer ones are too long, unless your rules allow the mags to touch the ground and be a mono pod. The rules here require unsupported shooting in our league.
Our club got a big shipment of used mixed brand 20 rounders for $7.50 -- I bought six.
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DPMS has a sale from time to time where you can buy 10 for $100. Keep your eyes peeled FQ13.
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DPMS has a sale from time to time where you can buy 10 for $100. Keep your eyes peeled FQ13.
How are their mags? Two came with the rifle, but they seem kind of flimsy compared to the 4 magpuls I ordered with the gun. I haven't shot it yet and wont till I get a set of buis as I need to sight those in before the eotech. They seem like about the same quality as GI, but I have zero experience with them. (I also apologize for all the basic questions, but as I tell my students, its better to ask and be thought a fool, than not ask and prove it). :-[ ;D
FQ13
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Love my DPMS mags and they have performed without a single flaw. Just like my AR.
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Cproducts are cheap as Hell and high quality. The only thing I've heard bad about Pmags, are that they sometimes crack after a couple thousand rounds.
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Cproducts are cheap as Hell and high quality. The only thing I've heard bad about Pmags, are that they sometimes crack after a couple thousand rounds.
Never heard that before Bryan, EVER! Not for the Magpul made Pmags. I love the Pmags. Other imitators make a similar named mag but I don't know anything about them. Maybe what you are hearing bad things about.
In reality, with all the different mags I have for the AR, I have never had any one of them actually fail in any manner. In fact I have never had my AR fail at any point, no matter what mags or ammo was being run through it. It's been said that most new production aluminum frame mags that have the new follower as just as good as the Magpul Pmag. Brownells is one of the manufactures that is producing a top quality 'metal' mag and has a very VERY large contract with the military for their product. You just can't squash one and expect it to work. ;D
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I've only heard about the cracking from a couple folks, who's names escape me, that ran them in instructional training. After several THOUSAND rounds some had cracked at the top of the mag. Most folks probably aren't going to put 5k through a single mag, so I'd still go for the Pmags if the price sold it to me. Buy a couple of each and figure out what you take to.
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That's definitely good to know.
Do you remember if it was a case of constant use in the course of a day, or more of an over its lifetime use issue?
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That's definitely good to know.
Do you remember if it was a case of constant use in the course of a day, or more of an over its lifetime use issue?
This fellow had some fail because of 'manufacture defect' right away. Then after replacement, the new ones started failing after a couple months. The first batch is understandable, but the second is a little worrying if they were the only mags I had for extended use. This was at least over a year ago, perhaps the new ones don't have the same problem, but the other cases I've heard don't inspire a ton of confidence. The other cases I've heard of, the damage was similar to this fellows.
http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=25395
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That is an interesting thread. I have used mine often in times past and they stay loaded for long periods of time, I don't shot .223 as often as I would like anymore because I hate to see ammo disappear at this point in time. I haven't had any issues with mine yet and now you have me worried that I might. Going to have to keep an eye on them. Guess it was a good accident that I have many different types of AR mags. Even though I don't keep others loaded, a very large portion of my .223 ammo is on stripper clips ready to rock in case of a zombie attack.
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The Mag-Pul P Mags are down to around $14.00 each. At that price they are worth it. Post election saw them as high as $26.00 each. No AR-15 magazine is worth that, including H&K. The P-Mags are nice, and seem to hold up well. I have plenty of AR-15 magazines, but with that said if I need more I'll go with P-Mags now that the price is realistic. Bill T.
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You probably know a lot more about this than I do Bill but I have 6 C-mags that run fine.
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Are you speaking of C-Products Magazines, or Beta-C Mags? Bill T.
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C-Products (not stainless)
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C-Products (not stainless)
I have 40, C-Products Aluminum 30 rounders that run very reliability. I got them for $9.95 each from Midway. They have them on sale from time to time. Bill T.
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The Colt magazines made by Okay Industries are ultra reliable and will last for years. I have a Vietnam era 20 rounder as well as quite a number of pre ban 30 rounders (living in New York necessitates this for high cap mags) that run perfectly. You should be able to find these in military surplus stores. If the base plate says Colt or Okay Industries, you are good to go. Just check the feed lips and overall condition and you will find these military magazines will give you years of great use at tremendous value.