The Down Range Forum
Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: ericire12 on July 22, 2009, 08:36:23 AM
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http://www.ammoland.com/2009/07/19/aclu-of-colorado-takes-on-illegal-searches-of-open-carriers/
ACLU of Colorado Takes on Illegal Searches of Open Carriers
“Sterile” Open Carry Urged for Loveland, CO to Counter “Check Point Hecker”
Loveland, CO – -(AmmoLand.com)- OpenCarry.org joins the ACLU of Colorado in expressing alarm at Loveland, CO Police Chief Luke Hecker’s policy that police officers may detain and search any person possessing a firearm and not release them until they provide identification and acquiesce to serial number checks on that firearm.
Hecker’s police officers reportedly detained and searched a 71 year old man openly carrying a holstered handgun at Lake Loveland. As a bullying tactic, the police ominously warned the man that “he could expect similar treatment should similar encounters occur in the future.” See http://www.reporterherald.com/news_story.asp?ID=23999 & http://www.reporterherald.com/news_story.asp?ID=24014.
Apparently Loveland Police Chief Luke (“Check Point”) Hecker slept through those classes at the police academy about the Fourth Amendment – you know, that funny little footnote on constitutional privacy which the Supreme Court has said means the police cannot constitutionally:
* Detain people just because they are carrying a gun (Florida v. J.L.)
* Demand identification from people walking about town (Kolender v. Lawson)
* Seize citizens’ personal property in order to view serial numbers (Arizona v. Hicks)
“What’s next in Loveland?,” asks John Pierce, co-founder of OpenCarry.org, “will the police start seizing cell phones to check sim cards?”
In response to the apparent ongoing and reaffirmed policy of Chief Hecker to target open carriers for harassment, OpenCarry.org urges gun owners who might happen to live in or travel through Loveland, CO to open carry without carrying identification, a practice known as “sterile carry,” and to refrain from answering police questions until they have a lawyer present.
Until Check Point Hecker gets his policies straight, his officers can “expect similar treatment should similar encounters occur in the future.”
Carry on!
More of ACLU being pro-gun:
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=7609.0
See also:
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=7796.0
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They aren't being pro-gun, they are upholding the 4th amendment not the 2nd.
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I've said it before, and I'm sure I'll say it again, but the ACLU is going to find themselves fighting more and more battles for us. They won't do it because they like us or what we stand for, but they are learning that when one Right is infringed it affects others.
I keep asking the anti 2nd Amendment folks around here what they think will protect their 1st Amendment Rights if the 2nd goes away. I'm not talking violent over throw. I'm talking about the ability to take out a quill and ink and rewrite things or just use a great big eraser on whole sections of the Constitution.
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Tom Gresham had a representative of the La. ACLU on last Sunday and she said that State organizations have a lot of latitude in their policies but that the national Organization is reviewing it's 40 year old anti 2A stance with a view to bringing it in line with the modern world.
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I bet that Chief Hecker is about 5" 4" and has a major Napoleon complex............or he could just be an asshat!!!!
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I bet that Chief Hecker is about 5" 4" and has a major Napoleon complex............or he could just be an asshat..........or an asshat WITH A NAPOLEON COMPLEX!!!!
Completed for accuracy. ;D
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I wouldn't insult the little dude, he packs some heavy heat.
(http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/runstowin/LATWP-HOLIDAY-BBGUNS1.jpg)