The Down Range Forum
Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: WatchManUSA on July 22, 2009, 05:16:20 PM
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I'm a believer that if either Obama-Care or Cap and Tax (Trade) gets passed it is over. If they can get these things through they will feel empowered to do anything - including gun control.
Given the composition of the House and Senate It is up to the Blue Dogs to put a stop to this non-sense.
Even if you have a Republican representing you or even a liberal Democrat you need to get involved.
But… if you have a Blue Dog Democrat representing you then you must get involved! Call, write, send, an email but get involved to get the brakes put on this legislation.
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My congress critter has been e-mailed on this issue, and I am confident that he will do the right thing.
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My congress critter has been e-mailed on this issue, and I am confident that he will do the right thing.
Here is where I am torn. I bitch and complain. I try to educate people. I talk with my reps, but I feel there is little more I can do. My reps are voting the right way on everything that comes down. Also, our junior senator is making a name for himself. Especially on gun control issues, and as a doctor, on this health care sham.
So with my reps actually being responsible, and even our democrat gov. taking a stand against Washington, I don't know what more I can do at this point. Any suggestions?
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I've e mailed my Senators but the one for my district is a worthless socialist who will vote for anything the post turtle in chief wants, NH will be a split vote.
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I'm a believer that if either Obama-Care or Cap and Tax (Trade) gets passed it is over. If they can get these things through they will feel empowered to do anything - including gun control.
Given the composition of the House and Senate It is up to the Blue Dogs to put a stop to this non-sense.
Even if you have a Republican representing you or even a liberal Democrat you need to get involved.
But… if you have a Blue Dog Democrat representing you then you must get involved! Call, write, send, an email but get involved to get the brakes put on this legislation.
I agree with you 100%. I don't need to contact my Texas Senators on Cap and Trade or my Senators or Congressman on Obama care. Fortunately I don't think Cap and Trade will get out of the Senate. For the time being Obama care also appears to be DOA.
I would very strongly second your statement and encourage everyone with "Blue Dog" representation to not only write and call their Congressman and Senators but to also encourage all like minded people in their Districts and State to do the same. We cannot afford for either of these measures to pass. We are teetering on the brink of economic disaster. Either of these measures would ensure economic riun.
I would not be surprised if this is the ultimate goal of Soros and the far left. I don't mean to sound like a tin hat wearing conspiracy theorist, but the result of economic collapse would be Marshall Law, an invitation to UN and NATO troops to help with the civil unrest, huge expansion of Federal powers and indefinite time in office for the POTUS, all in the name of National Security. >:(
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We cannot afford for either of these measures to pass. We are teetering on the brink of economic disaster. Either of these measures would ensure economic riun. [/b] >:(
That is precisely why they will pass.
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can some one please explain his system to me... no really, I have yet to find a single person that knows its ins and outs of it.
the only thing I've gotton so far is... bend over, just try and relax.
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can some one please explain his system to me... no really, I have yet to find a single person that knows its ins and outs of it.
the only thing I've gotton so far is... bend over, just try and relax.
That's the gist of it TAB. With 1018 pages of crap, I don't know if anyone could ever know the ins and outs of it. Most likely not even the jacklegs that wrote the thing know.
It's been pointed out before that you won't be able to change providers or get a new private health care coverage after the bill would go into effect. As long as you keep what you already have, you can stay with private coverage. If you change jobs, want to get better rates or different coverage, you're screwed. It's basically a death blow to private health insurance. That's my simple understanding of it at least so I can easily be wrong.
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yet another 1000+ page bill.
lets just assume the bill reads like most legal texts. even if you could read 100 pages a hour, it would still take you 10 hours to read the damn thing. the average college student can only read about 50 pages a hour if they want to have 95% recall. even using the "bold print" method 100 pages in a hour with 95% recall is not easy.
really makes you wonder how the reps are reading all these 1000+ page bills.
oh wait, they are not.
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Here is where I am torn. I bitch and complain. I try to educate people. I talk with my reps, but I feel there is little more I can do. My reps are voting the right way on everything that comes down. Also, our junior senator is making a name for himself. Especially on gun control issues, and as a doctor, on this health care sham.
So with my reps actually being responsible, and even our democrat gov. taking a stand against Washington, I don't know what more I can do at this point. Any suggestions?
Give them moral support, things like supportive letters to the Editor about how they are looking out for America instead of cheap party interest.
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can some one please explain his system to me... no really, I have yet to find a single person that knows its ins and outs of it.
the only thing I've gotton so far is... bend over, just try and relax.
No, no one has read it.
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We have a social health care system up here in the Peoples Republic. Is it working? Who the f*#k knows! But is was done without taxing the shit out of employers and citizens. It was done because Romney managed to hack enough wasteful spending to pay for it. There are those that disagree with those facts because, since the current asshole took over as Governor, he's blown the 2 billion surplus we had when Mitt left office.
I HAVE A JOB and HEALTH INSURANCE that I pay thousands of dollars annually for and a mortgage payment monthly for prescription co-pays, I would guess that after all is said and done, my out of pocket expenses just to HAVE the insurance and medications for my family is about 10 grand every year.
Am I happy about it? NO.....it used to be free! You young folks don't realize that once upon a time, employers GAVE you health insurance in order to retain GOOD employees. Then, once upon a time, the Feds decided to tax the crap out of employers and the cost started getting passed on to us.
Can I do anything about it? NO.....Kerry and Kennedy stopped responding to me some time back. Kennedy only cares about people that live here illegally and Kerry just does whatever Kennedy tells him too. The Governor is well, never mind! He's a dick....
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This really is about the Blue Dogs! We all need them to resist and stand up against these people. They need support from their constituents because if they do resist Caesar Obamus you can expect that he WILL call out the Chicago thugs to strong arm, intimidate and blackmail the Blue Dogs into submission.
If you have a Blue Dog you must see to their care and feeding.