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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Pathfinder on July 23, 2009, 09:18:31 AM
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"A.R.M.S. Inc. wins Trade Secret and Breach of Fiduciary Duty Lawsuit against Stephen P. Troy, Jr. and Troy Industries, Inc.."
"Jury in United States District Court for the District of Massachusetts awards A.R.M.S., Inc. $1.8M in weapons accessory trial."
http://www.armsmounts.com/default.asp?mode=news (http://www.armsmounts.com/default.asp?mode=news)
FTA: "A.R.M.S. alleged that its former employee of seven months, Stephen Troy, who had held a position of trust and confidence with the company, had stolen A.R.M.S.'s trade secrets for a proprietary handguard system for use on M-4/M-16/AR-15 rifles and incorporated those trade secrets in a competing modular, free-float railed handguard system that attached to the barrel nut and that was being offered and sold by Troy Industries, commencing after he was fired from A.R.M.S."
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Most people in those sort of positions have to sign non disclosure and non compete agreements.
He violated the Non competition agreement just by starting his own Company even if the designs were entirely his own.
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I've had to sign agreements to sign over ANYTHING I design whilst under the employ of General Dynamics, Nuclear Fuel Services, and my current employer.
Basically, anything I do, wether at work or home, is the property of my employer until a pre-determined length of time has elapsed after my termination.
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I've had to sign agreements to sign over ANYTHING I design whilst under the employ of General Dynamics, Nuclear Fuel Services, and my current employer.
Basically, anything I do, wether at work or home, is the property of my employer until a pre-determined length of time has elapsed after my termination.
You have to wait until you've been dead for awhile?!
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You have to wait until you've been dead for awhile?!
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That's one way to look at it! It's one reason I got out of design work though.....manufacturing someone elses crappy designs is much more challenging.....Ask Mr. Bogan.....
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I've seen an engineer come to a machinist with a piece of metal with a hole in one end, He told the machinist' I want another hole the same diameter exactly 6 inches away", machinist told him it could not be done, engineer says "my calculations say it can , do it."
The part was only 4 inches long, the machinist welded on a piece of scrap with a washer welded to it. ;D
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I've seen an engineer come to a machinist with a piece of metal with a hole in one end, He told the machinist' I want another hole the same diameter exactly 6 inches away", machinist told him it could not be done, engineer says "my calculations say it can , do it."
The part was only 4 inches long, the machinist welded on a piece of scrap with a washer welded to it. ;D
Gee, I wonder who the machinist was . . . . :o 8)
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Gee, I wonder who the machinist was . . . . :o 8)
No it wasn't me ;D one of the guys I worked with.
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I once watched a "Boot" engineer tighten a hex head bolt with a vernier caliper.....same guy needed a calculator to make change of a dollar.
Must have majored in Beer Bongs.....thirty years of teaching college kids how NOT to get fired.....I'm tired!
Today, I'm working on a part, designed in 1963 for a small steam turbine for General Electric. It will probably cost us twice the price the asshat GM sold it for.....
I'm surrounded by incompetence.......imbeciles, morons and ego-maniacal narcissists......
Sigh....any one got any "Pisco"?
;D
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I've seen an engineer come to a machinist with a piece of metal with a hole in one end, He told the machinist' I want another hole the same diameter exactly 6 inches away", machinist told him it could not be done, engineer says "my calculations say it can , do it."
The part was only 4 inches long, the machinist welded on a piece of scrap with a washer welded to it. ;D
That's funny right there. ;D
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I once watched a "Boot" engineer tighten a hex head bolt with a vernier caliper.....same guy needed a calculator to make change of a dollar.
Must have majored in Beer Bongs.....thirty years of teaching college kids how NOT to get fired.....I'm tired!
Today, I'm working on a part, designed in 1963 for a small steam turbine for General Electric. It will probably cost us twice the price the asshat GM sold it for.....
I'm surrounded by incompetence.......imbeciles, morons and ego-maniacal narcissists......
Sigh....any one got any "Pisco"?
;D
I REALLY hope they were HIS calipers ???
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I once watched a "Boot" engineer tighten a hex head bolt with a vernier caliper.....same guy needed a calculator to make change of a dollar.
Must have majored in Beer Bongs.....thirty years of teaching college kids how NOT to get fired.....I'm tired!
Today, I'm working on a part, designed in 1963 for a small steam turbine for General Electric. It will probably cost us twice the price the asshat GM sold it for.....
I'm surrounded by incompetence.......imbeciles, morons and ego-maniacal narcissists......
Sigh....any one got any "Pisco"?
;D
uuuhhhhhh.. runnin' a little short man.. but we can find some I'm sure, god bless google!
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I REALLY hope they were HIS calipers ???
Unfortunately not.....cost me about $125.00 bucks to replace them (Starrett) and they were my fathers so I spent some money sending them back to get them repaired, re-calibrated and cleaned up. They've been locked in my Kennedy box for the last fifteen years in their little oak case all wrapped to keep the humidity away. They were circa 1961 or so.......
That was the last time I brought any of my own precision tools to work. I have to read the directions now to remember how to use them. Spoiled with the dial type and digital.....
Same guy hit my spring actuated Starrett center punch with a hammer.......managed to wreck every jobber split point bit we had in our little shop and the dimwit is now the VP of the company I left.....
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Unfortunately not.....cost me about $125.00 bucks to replace them (Starrett) and they were my fathers so I spent some money sending them back to get them repaired, re-calibrated and cleaned up. They've been locked in my Kennedy box for the last fifteen years in their little oak case all wrapped to keep the humidity away. They were circa 1961 or so.......
That was the last time I brought any of my own precision tools to work. I have to read the directions now to remember how to use them. Spoiled with the dial type and digital.....
Same guy hit my spring actuated Starrett center punch with a hammer.......managed to wreck every jobber split point bit we had in our little shop and the dimwit is now the VP of the company I left.....
I would have been leaving sooner, with a police escort.
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I would have been leaving sooner, with a police escort.
My wife wouldn't let me do what I wanted to do. I decided to leave after 14 years working alongside the POS while he was promoted over me because of the little piece of paper from Clarkson he had.....He's one of the reasons I have such utter disdain for MOST engineers. He probably owes his career to my tutelage and guidance but I ain't gonna lose any sleep waiting for a thank you.
I'm feeling much better now! ;D
I saw him during a wake for a mutual friend and he inquired if I would be willing to come work for him. I told him he could no longer afford me!
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Wages would be reasonable enough, but the aggravation surcharge would be what made you to expensive. ;D
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I work with a couple of uhhhhhh .. guys.. that don't know how to use the proper tools. and instead of fabricating tools they will take existing tools (of which we have no spares and are very useful) and cut them, weld them or whatever and render them useless for their intended use. all for some chickenshit job. :P
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Those type of people should be clubbed like Harp seals.
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Yea, I've had a few modifiers in my experience too.
Fortunately, I was on dry land and not floating around off the coast of Somalia looking for an all night Home Depot to replace the tool....
Deepwater, outside of 200 miles, you can't be charged for an unfortunate incident if they never find a body.... ;)
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Yea, I've had a few modifiers in my experience too.
Fortunately, I was on dry land and not floating around off the coast of Somalia looking for an all night Home Depot to replace the tool....
Deepwater, outside of 200 miles, you can't be charged for an unfortunate incident if they never find a body.... ;)
whuh???????
yeah, one wrap around 'em with a length of chain and they don't come up for a long time. ;) but, I do keep my own tools hidden from the retards. and the few times they've found my tools I tell them, never again!
some people need to be weeded out of the population
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I have a superviser (1st engineer) that does this. and when he gets into a problem I try to stay one step ahead and hide the tools he will probably look for to modify etc.. and work on reasoning with him. better ideas?
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I have a superviser (1st engineer) that does this. and when he gets into a problem I try to stay one step ahead and hide the tools he will probably look for to modify etc.. and work on reasoning with him. better ideas?
Well,
My wife had a problem losing my tools or misplacing them because, GEE, they don't resemble my pocketbook! ;D
I bought the girl her own tool box and lock mine up.
If he's a friend, work with him. If he's like most supervisors I've known, find the chain and several hundred fathoms of deep blue, your choice!
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he's a michigan 'Nuge lovin rocker' and a good guy. but a little fried in the noodle.... too much fun in his youth.
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he's a michigan 'Nuge lovin rocker' and a good guy. but a little fried in the noodle.... too much fun in his youth.
Well coming from a "Michigan born, Nuge lovin rocker" who also had too much fun in my youth, my 20's, 30's, 40's and 50's....I'd give him a pass and just realize fried noodles just might be the best we got.....
Ask Haz.....I'm sure several billion brain cells are screaming from ya'll drinking up the west coast of Florida the other night.....
;D ;D
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Well coming from a "Michigan born, Nuge lovin rocker" who also had too much fun in my youth, my 20's, 30's, 40's and 50's....I'd give him a pass and just realize fried noodles just might be the best we got.....
Ask Haz.....I'm sure several billion brain cells are screaming from ya'll drinking up the west coast of Florida the other night.....
;D ;D
HUH? ???
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Well coming from a "Michigan born, Nuge lovin rocker" who also had too much fun in my youth, my 20's, 30's, 40's and 50's....I'd give him a pass and just realize fried noodles just might be the best we got.....
Ask Haz.....I'm sure several billion brain cells are screaming from ya'll drinking up the west coast of Florida the other night.....
;D ;D
We don't need have no stinkin brain cells.
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so.. Blackwolfe... about work ethics.. we've checked up on you and know that you are at work.
BUSTED!!!!!!
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It's slow right now, break time.
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Break time huh? A likely story.