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Title: AR Parts are flowing - maybe
Post by: alfsauve on July 27, 2009, 08:51:25 PM
With the funds allocated for my birthday, I ordered a 2-stage AR-15 trigger from DPMS.  There were several  warnings about how back-logged there were and how I might have to wait.

So how long did it take?

Order it on the evening of Wednesday, 7/22.  The part shipped today, Monday, 7/27.  Really only 2 or 2-1/2 business days!

Sweet.
Title: Re: AR Parts are flowing - maybe
Post by: Big Frank on July 27, 2009, 10:11:53 PM
Where do you get service that fast?
Title: Re: AR Parts are flowing - maybe
Post by: MikeBjerum on July 27, 2009, 10:37:25 PM
Prior to the election DPMS always said five to seven days (they were shooting for five business days) till shipping, but usually shipped in two or three.  Looks like your trigger fell into the old norm.  I'll need to go to their site and look as some things again.  Now that I have my second AR-15 I want to start tweaking the A-2 with some more precision items.

Which trigger did you get?  And, don't forget reports on installation and results  ;D
Title: Re: AR Parts are flowing - maybe
Post by: alfsauve on July 28, 2009, 07:21:46 AM
Which trigger did you get?  And, don't forget reports on installation and results  ;D

Uh-oh.  Man I'm getting old......or I'm still suffering from the venom. 

It was Rock River not DPMS.   However, the same applies.  Parts are being shipped pretty quickly.  So to answer the questions (accurately this time)

Where:  http://rockriverarms.com/ (http://rockriverarms.com/)

Which:  2 stage Match Trigger http://rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=294 (http://rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=294)

Sorry about that.

Title: Re: AR Parts are flowing - maybe
Post by: alfsauve on July 28, 2009, 07:30:20 AM
Where do you get service that fast?

Actually if I ran a business  I'd strive to ship any order received before 2pm out that afternoon.

Now if you want really fast service, try McMaster-Carr for general maintenance parts (not gun stuff).   If they have a local warehouse (which they do in Atlanta), you should get 4 hour service (as in 240minutes) on small parts.   Yeah order a part by noon and get it  (GET IT) by 4pm!!!!   Cost?   Last I ordered was several electrical parts.  Weight 3 pounds.  I got it in 4 hours and the shipping charge was $5.  For local they use a local delivery service.  For UPS shipped things they strive to have them to UPS same day.  I don't think they go home at 5pm until all of that day's orders are in the UPS truck.

Title: Re: AR Parts are flowing - maybe
Post by: blackwolfe on July 28, 2009, 11:36:08 PM
I have heard good things about the RRA 2 stage trigger.
Title: Re: AR Parts are flowing - maybe
Post by: alfsauve on July 29, 2009, 05:18:52 PM
Came today as promised.  Yeah-h-h-h-h.

Ran down stairs, but before I could work on it, I had to finish installing the extended safety in my 1911.  See story, http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=8084.0 (http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=8084.0)

Okay that done.  Follow instructions. 

First understand I got the National Match RRA trigger.   It's their cheapest at $120.  Now, and I forget sometimes, remember that "National Match" refers to a particular type of NRA competition, it doesn't mean "nationally acclaimed" "super match grade".  Think of National Match as kinda of a production grade for ARs.  There are limits to the modifications you can make and still shoot NM.  So this isn't, and they weren't trying to fool anybody, the top of the line trigger.   My thinking though is that most anything would be better than the trigger that came with my Eagle Arms AR.  And I'm accumulating the parts to build up my own lower.  I want one NM qualifying gun and one really accurate varmint grade one when I'm done.

So, I remove the old trigger and hammer, watching out for anything that might go "sprong!!!".   Also paying attention to the way the pins were oriented.  I don't have an AR-15 gunsmith block, but I do keep some various sized block of wood on my work bench.  This help tremendously.  It is so much better to have your work "secure" rather than trying to do it in your lap.  This isn't a "drop in" like a Timney, so you have to hold the trigger in place while you run in the pin.  Using a size smaller punch to hold the trigger against its spring helps.   

RRA provides two replacement, over-sized pins.  I used my originals as the over size were taking too much work to get in place.  I don't detect any slop and have put the RRA pins aside if I need them later.

Installed the hammer using the same technique and then cycle the trigger/hammer about 40 times.  All check out.  Re-installed the upper and again, all check out.  RRA details several safety tests which I ran and am satisfies it works well.  Though just to be sure I'll only load 2 rounds in the magazines at first.  There are no adjustments......or conversely, there's little to go wrong with it.

Feels great.  It is a two stage and the first stage isn't very long, just right.  The break is clean and crisp with no trace of creep.  Feel almost like my Tikka T3 trigger which always gets oh's and ah's when I let people try it at the range.

I'll let you know how it shoots.
Title: Re: AR Parts are flowing - maybe
Post by: Timothy on July 29, 2009, 05:26:32 PM
Look forward to the report Alf.  Sorry to hear about the critter bite.   Snake or spider?  I must have missed that post.

All you guys building these AR's has me thinking again......that's generally NOT a good thing!

 ;)
Title: Re: AR Parts are flowing - maybe
Post by: alfsauve on July 29, 2009, 05:33:53 PM
Sorry to hear about the critter bite.   Snake or spider?  I must have missed that post.

Brown Recluse spider.    On the cheek.  I may go take a picture of it.  It's been two weeks.
Title: Re: AR Parts are flowing - maybe
Post by: Timothy on July 29, 2009, 05:44:29 PM
Brown Recluse spider.    On the cheek.  I may go take a picture of it.  It's been two weeks.

OUCH.....!!!! 

Those are one spider I'm glad we don't see much, if at all, in the north!
Title: Re: AR Parts are flowing - maybe
Post by: 2Alpha on August 28, 2009, 07:16:20 PM
Brown Recluse spider.    On the cheek.  I may go take a picture of it.  It's been two weeks.

OUCH!  Had a BR bite me in '78 on the right side of my right knee while camping.  I think I rolled over on him...

Had a swelling the size of a baseball that had to be lanced and had two weeks of anti-biotics!
The scar is nearly 1 1/2 " long!

Good luck to ya!  Hope it heals fast!
2A
Title: Re: AR Parts are flowing - maybe
Post by: long762range on August 28, 2009, 07:44:28 PM
I feel you pain.  I was bitten on the wrist when I was 17.  Almost lost the arm. 

Since you are spider bit and all...I'll beta test the new gun for you.  ;D