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Member Section => Tactical Rifle & Carbine => Topic started by: Trevor on October 21, 2007, 08:44:06 PM
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What are your opinions of the Magpul Pmag AR-15 magazines?
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I do not have an opinion, yet. I am thinking about getting one and testing it here in the cold to see how it holds up to 30 below. I have not seen a test like that done yet, or even a comment about it.
-Bidah
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I have a few and will buy more. I like then alot and have not had any problems with them at all.
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From my experience the quality of the PMags is excellent.
I took a carbine class where one shooter used nothing but Pmags, shot 1000 rounds in three days and had zero malfunctions or problems.
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I got a couple and plan to use them (along with my usual Brownell's 30-rounders) when I go to Tulsa next month!
Michael B
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They initially had some quality control issues, but MagPul's customer service has been second to none and as far as I know, all have been replaced at no expense to the customers. I've got several of the newest generation and so far they have worked out quite well, but they are prone to cracking if dropped fully loaded, with the feed lips impacting on a hard surface (concrete.) I have not broken any myself, but a friend of mine has broken 4 that way (Then again he could break a steel ball bearing) so YMMV.
I tested a couple out during the filming of the video's that are posted on the forum and they worked flawlessly. I especially like the ease of disassembly/reassembly for cleaning.
Outstanding product for the price. I will continue to stock up on them from time to time.
Erik
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Thanks for the heads up on the issue you had Erik. I haven't been on any ranges where the Pmags have been dumped on concrete. Of course,with the aluminum ones the feed lips can be bent up by dropping them on the ground with a load as well.
I think you just need to get use to the idea that magazines are a consumable item and need to be replaced from time to time.
For what it's worth, the same class the Pmags were at, one of the shooters ruined an AK mag by dropping a partially loaded one on top of it while it was on the ground and put a big dent in the side.
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Just to be clear, I didn't have any issues. The ones I have are working perfectly.
Don't want to get a call from MagPul wanting to know what torture tests I performed on their magazines and get them all pissed off (Don't wanna lose my place in line for the Masada! ;D)
Erik
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(Don't wanna lose my place in line for the Masada! ;D)
Erik
Now you know how I feel after waiting almost 8 months for my Sig 556. The dealer is saying it should show up any day now! ;D
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I hope you getting a real good price on it for that kind of a wait.
I've seen several in my local gun shops and on the gun show circuit.
Erik
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I hope I can do this and not drag it too far off topic....
The reason that I am specifically looking at how the PMAG's work in cold weather is that I do have some experience with the Orlites. Now I really do like the Orlites, and several others that I know. We are just limited to spring, summer and fall, which is about 6 months of the year. The rest of the time we use metal mags. The Orlites will crack badly on the feed lips in cold weather.
I suspect that the PMAG would probably do the same.. I have no idea how you would make a polymer magazine take that abuse at 30 below zero.. :)
-Bidah
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I bought 4 and took them to ThunderRanch. They worked great. Only glitch was I found on one of the mags, which I had loaded to capacity, I could not lock the mag in with the bolt closed. Locked the bolt back, put the mag in, released the bolt and it was fine. Don't think that is unique to Magpul. I will order more. Particularly the new ones with the window.
Can't help with cold testing though.
--bjet
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Bidah,
Could you try putting one in your freezer for a couple of days? Don't know if it will reach 30 below, but it might give you an indication of what they will handle.
Erik
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EriK,
The freezer is not cold enough. Even the Orlites will handle that.. I know.. :) 20 below and down is a different kind of cold. Hmm. that does give me an idea though. Dry Ice is 20 below, so if I could land some of that and put the mag there and get it cold enough it might work. Otherwise I have to wait about a month and then I can do it.. Finding Dry Ice would be the biggest problem.
-Bidah
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Just before these hit the market, Magpul was nice enough to send me some mags for testing in Iraq. I had no issues at all with them. I even tested it by doing the "drive over" test using one of our an up armored suburbans. The mag survived fine. Mags held up well in the heat.
Only downside to the mags is remembering to load 30 instead of 28 rounds. Old habits die hard I guess.
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I`ve got a couple and will be buying a couple more soon. The durability and quality of the guts are(in my opinion)unsurpassed at this point. For the price they can`t be beat. I would pay twice the average price for one. I think all of Magpul`s products are great and affordable. I`m about to order a CTR rear stock.
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Waiting on the big brown truck with a package of PMags, shot them in a friends rifle and mine, they shoot the same, and they went without an issue at all.
For the price, before Nov., I may get more.
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i just bought some at the Ft Worth gun show last weekend. I'm glad to hear most have had good luck wih them.
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I just ordered 2 FDE Pmags from these guys: AIM Surplus (http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Magpul_Polymer_30rd_.223_AR15_M16_PMAG_Magazines.html)
Can't beat it with .01 shipping!
Oh and this is my first post, I couldn't find rules for this forum but I hope I didn't violate any by putting a link in there. If I did sorry. ::)
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I just ordered 2 FDE Pmags from these guys: AIM Surplus (http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Magpul_Polymer_30rd_.223_AR15_M16_PMAG_Magazines.html)
Can't beat it with .01 shipping!
Oh and this is my first post, I couldn't find rules for this forum but I hope I didn't violate any by putting a link in there. If I did sorry. ::)
Hello, RLTW375, links are welcome as a resource that one can look for themselves and shop and compare. Many on this forum like Midway, which I have ordered more stuff than my wife would like, but have had no problems with at all, shipping, customer service, etc,..
Waiting on a Bushnell boresight and more PMAGS for my Sig 556, Kimber magazines for the 1911, etc,. always good to have more resources to check out. AND usually cheaper than my local gun store.
Thanks.
Thank you
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I have a bunch of them and am very happy with their performance.
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Excellent mag... Is the dust cap really necessary?
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The "dust cap" also doubles as a feed lip protector. If you store the magazine fully loaded, the increased spring tension (over time) will cause the polymer feed lips to spread apart and potentially cause feeding malfunctions. The cap relieves this pressure and helps to maintain the integrity of the feed lips when stored.
And it doubles as a dust protector!
More good stuff from Magpul.
Erik
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I used 10 PMAGS in a EAG Carbine Course this past weekend and put over a thousand rounds through them. The mags functioned perfectly. I will be buying more.
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I have 2 Pmag magazines and like them a lot. I did have to modify them to fit in my M&P 15...this may have been part of their initial quality control problems.
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I would like to say that I also have several of the PMags, plain black and tan with the window, I am very impressed with them. They work as they should in my 2 bushmasters.
I have to add, that I have never had a problem from my bushmaster brand mags either, but the PMags are less expensive, and have the cool dust cap.
I buy 1 or 2 every time I order stuff, I will at least until I have 15 or 20. You never know?