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Title: The Four Year Olds Don't Want To Townhall Anymore.
Post by: twyacht on August 09, 2009, 03:56:14 PM: We'll see if the Republicans wuss out...

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/town_hall_healthcare/2009/08/08/245559.html

Democrats May Stop Town Halls

Saturday, August 8, 2009 12:54 PM

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Though town halls are American as apple pie and one of the great examples of direct democracy, Democratic congressmen are thinking of trashing the concept, according to the Wall Street Journal.

Democrats have been holding town hall meetings in an effort to build support for healthcare-reform legislation, but opponents have been attending the events and voicing their opposition.

As a result, Democrats are reconsidering the town hall format for alternatives such as audio conferences and invitation-only small-group meetings.

Read the full story in the Wall Street Journal.

© 2009 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

INVITATION ONLY!!!!! INVIFUC***TATION ONLY!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

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Decorum prohibits my continuing further with these gutless, wussy, bastards...How DARE the People Speak Out...

There are some bad ones on the Rep. side too,....Bob Inglis R-SC, has drank the Kool-Aid, saw his footage and Boiling Springs, was boiling mad at this weasel with a stained nose....

VOTE ALL THE BUMS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!

I want a total DO OVER with all of em'...

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Title: Re: The Four Year Olds Don't Want To Townhall Anymore.
Post by: mudman on August 09, 2009, 04:15:52 PM: CLICK >:(
Title: Re: The Four Year Olds Don't Want To Townhall Anymore.
Post by: Kid Shelleen on August 11, 2009, 01:27:44 AM: It's OK.

Their days are numbered. 2010 is coming on fast. Goodbye to bad rubbish!!!
Title: Re: The Four Year Olds Don't Want To Townhall Anymore.
Post by: Rastus on August 11, 2009, 06:11:08 AM: Quote from: Kid Shelleen on August 11, 2009, 01:27:44 AM
It's OK.

Their days are numbered. 2010 is coming on fast. Goodbye to bad rubbish!!!

I hope you are right...but there is no way I am counting on that. Remember a huge portion of that free government money hits early next year in time to create a faux economy...and the sheeple value their personal peace and prosperity above all. If the sheeple are happy, in their mind, all is well continue with the status quo.

Sheeple will never see this coming and vote as a happy idiot votes.
Title: Re: The Four Year Olds Don't Want To Townhall Anymore.
Post by: Pathfinder on August 11, 2009, 06:37:23 AM: Quote from: Kid Shelleen on August 11, 2009, 01:27:44 AM
It's OK.

Their days are numbered. 2010 is coming on fast. Goodbye to bad rubbish!!!

You're assuming open and honest elections. With Holder giving the Black Panthers in Philly a free pass for their voter intimidation, and AKORN resting on tons of our money, I think open and honest elections are a pipe dream, at least in the major cities. And sadly the big cities have more people than the rest of the country - look at the 2004 election map, where most of the country by county and precinct went to Bush, and the urban areas went to Kerry.

AKORN wil corrupt the elections in the urban areas, especially in contests where the competition to the Dem majority on Congress may be threatened, using the Panthers and union thugs to keep control (AKORN people are too good, too intellectual, too prissy to get their hands dirty with actual physical intimidation) - it's the Chicago way. And the entitlement crowd will eat it up.

Besides, at this point, a lot of damage has already been done. Besides the squandering of trillions of US dollars, when was the last time a major Federal law was removed - not changed, not modified, not adapted but actually repealed? The Medicare Catastrophic Care bill was one in the 90's.

bho's intent is to damage this country as fast as he can, as much as he can, before the sheeple wake up. After that he will back off slightly. After he wins in 2012, he will finish the job. We discussed it before - after 2012 look to a repeal of the 22nd Amendment, although if they can find another effective figurehead like bho, it may not be necessary.
Title: Re: The Four Year Olds Don't Want To Townhall Anymore.
Post by: Rastus on August 11, 2009, 06:45:46 AM: Quote from: Pathfinder on August 11, 2009, 06:37:23 AM
You're assuming open and honest elections. With Holder giving the Black Panthers in Philly a free pass for their voter intimidation, and AKORN resting on tons of our money, I think open and honest elections are a pipe dream,...................
............, before the sheeple wake up. ...............

After he wins in 2012, he will finish the job. We discussed it before - after 2012 look to a repeal of the 22nd Amendment, although if they can find another effective figurehead like bho, it may not be necessary.

Great points Geoff. This is definitely an orchestrated event...the timing for the stimulus package coincides, conveniently, with elections. I'm sticking with my Summer of 2014 awakening. The sheep will finally begin to wake up in 2013 and after April 15, 2014 it will be confirmed in their minds. This appears to be so predictable..............time will tell.
Title: Re: The Four Year Olds Don't Want To Townhall Anymore.
Post by: shooter32 on August 11, 2009, 09:53:06 AM: Quote from: Rastus on August 11, 2009, 06:45:46 AM
Great points Geoff. This is definitely an orchestrated event...the timing for the stimulus package coincides, conveniently, with elections. I'm sticking with my Summer of 2014 awakening. The sheep will finally begin to wake up in 2013 and after April 15, 2014 it will be confirmed in their minds. This appears to be so predictable..............time will tell.

Path and Rastus, I agree. By then they "sheeple" will have had enough "change" and will have been led around, being told how great all this "change" has been.

To bad we have to suffer waiting for the sheeple awakening. It can't happen fast enough.
Title: Re: The Four Year Olds Don't Want To Townhall Anymore.
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 11, 2009, 10:00:23 AM: Don't forget that before the Black Panthers and Union thugs get turned lose for the 2010 elections Rahm and ACORN will be having their way with the Census as well.
You WILL not get these Communist bastards out with out killing them. They have never given up power any where else with out violence.
Title: Re: The Four Year Olds Don't Want To Townhall Anymore.
Post by: tumblebug on August 11, 2009, 12:37:33 PM: AMEN
Title: Re: The Four Year Olds Don't Want To Townhall Anymore.
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 11, 2009, 02:39:26 PM: Then of course there is the tactic of picking your crowds. The Seacoast of NH is totally over run with socialists from Mass and NY, and is the location of UNH, the "Arts" Gay, and Theater communities in the state. Guess where Barry O decided to have his town meeting.

http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_08_09-2009_08_15.shtml#1250013622

The first two questioners and questions at President Obama's Townhall
today in New Hampshire:

Peter Schmidt (one of the most liberal members NH State House):
After praising Obama for bipartisanship, Schmidt asks: âIf the
Republicans actively refuse to participate in a reasonable way with
reasonable proposals, isnât time to just say, weâre going to pass
what the American people need and what they want, without the
Republicans?â

Julia Hall, teenager from Massachusetts: âAs I was walking in, I
saw a lot of signs outside saying mean things about reform in
health care. How do kids know what is true and why do people want a
new system that can help . . . more of us?â

The crowd is obviously stacked in Obama's favor, which is, of course,
not surprising.

Now for the news paper report

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090811/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_health_care_overhaul

PORTSMOUTH, N.H. – Braced for a fight he never got, President Barack Obama went on the offensive in support of his health care plan Tuesday, urging a town hall audience not to listen to those who seek to "scare and mislead the American people."

"For all the scare tactics out there, what is truly scary is if we do nothing," Obama told a friendly crowd of about 1,800 in a high school auditorium and a nationwide audience watching on cable television.

The White House had been ready for an unruly reception from opponents of overhauling health care. There was no sign of that, perhaps because of the makeup of the day's crowd or out of traditional deference for the president.

Obama's push came amid a string of disruptive health care town halls nationwide that have overshadowed his message and threatened to derail support in Congress. Indeed, Republican-turned-Democratic Sen. Arlen Specter faced hostile questions, taunts and jeers earlier Tuesday as he tried to explain his positions at a town hall in Lebanon, Pa. Voter fears of a government takeover of health care were on stark display.

Some lawmakers, holding forums during Congress' August recess, have gone so far as to replace public forums with teleconferences or step up security to keep protesters at bay.

But the Democratic president faced no outbursts.

The encounter was so friendly, in fact, that by the end Obama was even asking for skeptical questioners to come forward — to no avail.

He told his audience reassuringly, "For all the chatter and the yelling and the shouting and the noise, what you need to know is this ... if you do have health insurance, we will make sure that no insurance company or government bureaucrat gets between you and the care you need."

Retooling his message amid sliding support, he addressed some of his remarks to a vital and skeptical audience: the tens of millions of people who already have health insurance and are generally satisfied with the care they get.

He said the overhaul is essential to them, too, contending it is the way to keep control in their hands. Obama said while government bureaucrats should not meddle with people's care, bureaucrats at insurance companies should not, either.

The president accused critics of creating "boogeymen."

"Spread the facts. Let's get this done," Obama implored the crowd.

The tone was set as soon as Obama arrived. He came in to applause and told one person who shouted support, "I love you back."

One man identified himself as a Republican and said, "I don't know what I'm doing here." The Democratic president said he was happy to have him in attendance.

Toward the end of the session, Obama went so far as to ask people to give him skeptical questions. The best he got were queries about why he doesn't chastise Congress more and where the nation would find the additional doctors and nurses it needs.

Heading toward a pivotal fall debate before congressional action, Obama is scrambling to get lawmakers and the public behind what would be the most ambitious and costly changes to the health care system in decades.

He reiterated his determination that the plan be paid for without adding to the nation's soaring deficit.

He took on what he described as erroneous claims that have risen as the debate in Washington and the nation has developed.

He singled out the charge that the Democratic health care legislation would create "death panels" to deny care to frail seniors. Former Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin has said the Democrats' legislation includes "death panels" that could deny care.

Obama declared that a provision that he said had caused the uproar would only authorize Medicare to pay doctors for counseling patients about end-of-life care, living wills, hospice care and other issues, if the patients wanted it. It would not "basically pull the plug on grandma because we decided that it's too expensive to let her live anymore," as Obama put it.

The people Obama called on for questions asked him largely about their personal medical concerns and how any new law would affect them. "We're not talking about cutting Medicare benefits," he said, trying to reassure one questioner.

Obama sought to dispel talk that his ultimate goal is a single-payer federal health care system, like that in countries such as Canada.

He also disputed the notion that adding a government-run insurance plan into a menu of options from which people could pick would drive private insurers out of business, in effect making the system single-payer by default.

As long as they have a good product and the government plan has to sustain itself through premiums and other non-tax revenue, private insurers should be able to compete with the government plan, Obama said.

"They do it all the time," he said. "UPS and FedEx are doing just fine. ... It's the Post Office that's always having problems."

From his own mouth comes an admission that Govt. f#cks up everything it touches so lets have them run health care too. WTF?
Title: Re: The Four Year Olds Don't Want To Townhall Anymore.
Post by: mudman on August 11, 2009, 02:48:10 PM: OBAMA LIES GOOGLE IT VIDEO OF HIM LIEING ABOUT HEALTH CARE