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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: ericire12 on August 11, 2009, 09:47:28 PM
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Yep that little 12 yr old girl who asked a question was being exploited by her mom who is a big Obama donar
Start here:
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/11/little-girl-at-obama-town-hall-has-not-so-random-political-connections/
ar15.com thread here:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=911911
(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p170/MarkNH/arf/obama-planted-question.jpg)
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And this surprises anyone............
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Some people have no shame.
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Some people have no shame.
And even THEY are embarrassed by this cheap con artist. And where does this "eloquent speaker" crap come from, the guy can't talk English with out a teleprompter.
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I thought that all of us regular Americans were the "plants" at meetings. ???
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I thought that all of us regular Americans were the "plants" at meetings. ???
Didn't you know, Kid? ANYONE who fails to toe the BHO (pronounced "bullshit") line at one of these things is a plant. And a right-wing conspirator. And a nazi. And a KKK member. And those are just a FEW of the names I've heard bandied about by the "leaders" on the left in recent days.
Arrogant, condescending, smug little self-righteous, self-serving, self-important douchebags. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33125
Kathleen Parker: The Barry Lynn of The South
by Ann Coulter
08/12/2009
Just as the left pioneered "AstroTurf" protesters -- homeless people lured to demonstrations with the offer of a free T-shirt and a box lunch -- liberals have also specialized in producing fake "insiders" denouncing their alleged group.
There were the "winter soldiers" -- fake Vietnam veterans claiming to have personally disemboweled babies in Vietnam. It took 30 years and the publication of the book "Stolen Valor" to establish that the bulk of them were utter frauds who had never seen combat -- some had never seen Vietnam. (Shockingly, to this day, the Wikipedia entry on the winter soldiers treats their phony war records as legitimate.)
Then there's Barry Lynn, alleged "Christian minister," whose stock in trade is to denounce any mention of religion anyplace, anytime. Look, I'm a Christian minister, but even I have to admit that the sight of a kindergartner praying is terrifying to most folks. (The first person to post Barry Lynn's bar mitzvah photos or birth announcement (mazel tov!) wins a free copy of my latest book, Guilty: Liberal 'Victims' and Their Assault on America.)
The latest fake insider/whistleblower is Kathleen Parker, the Barry Lynn of the South. Fresh off her mainstream media tour as a Sarah Palin-hating "conservative," Parker is now a self-proclaimed Southerner blaming opposition to Obama's policies on the region's reputed racism.
Uncannily, this claim struck a chord with Northern liberals!
Throughout the presidential campaign last year, liberals were champing at the bit to accuse Americans of racism for not supporting Barack Obama. That was a tough argument on account of the obvious facts that: (1) for every vote he lost because he's black, Obama picked up another 20 votes for being black; (2) Obama won the election in (3) a country that's 87 percent non-black.
So the accusations of racism had to be put on hold until ... the first note of dissent from his agenda was sounded.
Inasmuch as Obama was just elected and his policies have turned out to be the most left-wing the country has ever seen, it wasn't going to be easy to claim the electorate suddenly decided they didn't like the mammoth spending bills or socialist health care bills because they just noticed Obama is black.
But Kathleen Parker has leapt into the fray to explain that the opposition to Obama's agenda is pure Southern racism. And she's from the South, so it must be true!
As she put it on Chris Matthews' "Hardball": "One word, Chris -- one word. 'Confederacy.' I mean, you know, the South is very -- I live there, OK? I want to make that clear, too, because I'm not bashing Southerners."
No, she was certainly not bashing Southerners. This she made clear in her Washington Post column calling for the Republican Party to "drive a stake through the heart of old Dixie."
How one gets from "we don't want socialized medicine" to "we hate black people" was a tough equation. As my algebra teacher used to say: "Please show your work."
Parker's explanation: "Sarah Palin may not have realized what she was doing, but Southerners weaned on Harper Lee heard the dog whistle." And on "Hardball," she said: "You don't position a white woman and a black male and pretend like there's nothing happening there. There's a deep history. That's why I mentioned Harper Lee in there."
So as I understand it, by nominating a black man for president, the Democrats had checkmated Republicans, who should have done the decent thing by not nominating a white woman for vice president, which would be seen as a deliberate ploy to lure gallant Klansmen into defending the white woman's honor by voting against Obama!
Called upon to draw a straight line between Sarah Palin and racism, I guess this is as good a try as any.
Any crackpot can put forward lunatic theories. What gives Parker's slanderous claim punch is her repeated assertion that she's a Southerner, so she's giving us the inside dope. To make sure no one misses the point, Parker issues repeated professions -- "that's what we do in the South," "I am down there," and "I live there, OK?"
Despite the implication that this Daughter of the Confederacy was virtually homecoming queen at Ole Miss, Parker was born and raised in Winter Haven, Fla. She married a South Carolinian and now splits her time between South Carolina and Washington, D.C.
I'm no Civil War buff, but I'm fairly certain there were no brave Confederate stands at Winter Haven against a superior Northern force -- unless those Northern forces were successful dentists from Larchmont. I would lay money that there aren't a lot of antebellum mansions on magnolia-lined boulevards dotted with statutes of Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson in Winter Haven, Fla.
Except for the coasts, Florida never had much of a culture below the northern tier on account of the fact that the area beneath the panhandle consisted primarily of malarial swamps. Northerners got that deep into Florida at the turn of the last century -- i.e., about same time as northern Floridians did.
If Parker is a Southerner because she grew up in Winter Haven, then I should be the next spokesman for Gorton's of Gloucester because I grew up in Fairfield County, Conn. I'll pose in rain gear at the wheel of my ship, dispensing flinty, down-home Yankee wisdom -- "Ya cand get theh from heah" -- just like most natives of New Canaan, Conn.
Oh, and one more thing. I was once employed by MSNBC. Speaking as an MSNBC insider, I regret to inform you: We MSNBC-ers hate the military, loathe cops, despise the South and absolutely detest Christians. No really, take it from me -- I'm an old MSNBC hand.
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Typical commie tactic. Create sympathy for the cause. Isolate the opposition.
Their tactics are right out of Saul Alinksy's " Rules for Radicals" Notice rule 12.
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http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/8925/alinsky.htm
RULE 1: "Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have." Power is derived from 2 main sources - money and people. "Have-Nots" must build power from flesh and blood. (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)
RULE 2: "Never go outside the expertise of your people." It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals don't address the "real" issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)
RULE 3: "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy." Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)
RULE 4: "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules." If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity's very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)
RULE 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)
RULE 6: "A good tactic is one your people enjoy." They'll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They're doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. (Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid "un-fun" activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)
RULE 7: "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag." Don't become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)
RULE 8: "Keep the pressure on. Never let up." Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)
RULE 9: "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself." Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists' minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)
RULE 10: "If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive." Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred management's wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)
RULE 11: "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative." Never let the enemy score points because you're caught without a solution to the problem. (Old saw: If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Activist organizations have an agenda, and their strategy is to hold a place at the table, to be given a forum to wield their power. So, they have to have a compromise solution.)
RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu3HdhdYAHA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIhVborqgKM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5MyElarefw&feature=related
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Assuming all of the above are true - and I for one do believe that bho is the practitioner of Alinsky's credo that Hitlery can only ever dream of being - then I have a few questions for all of us.
What does it mean for a country when its very political structure is based on the principles espoused by Alinsky?
What happens to personal liberties and freedoms when the very government we elect to protect us and watch out for our best interests is based on destructive social disruption principles like Alinsky's?
Is this not the very form of tyranny our Founders warned us against, and gave us permission - nay, declaimed it as our duty - to remove?
Have you heard the expression that that was very popular by Alinsky's followers in the 60's that it is always wrong to support your government against your country, but it is never wrong to support your country against your government.
And if all of the above is true, where do you draw the line? What are your trigger points? What are you prepared - personally - to do, to act, to sacrifice to ensure our liberties remain intact?
Are you Libertarian/Constitutionalist/Patriot/whatever in fact and deed, or are you libertarian/constitutionalist/patriot/whatever so you can look cool saying things online?
Rhetorical questions, but ones we each should be asking ourselves.
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Assuming all of the above are true - and I for one do believe that bho is the practitioner of Alinsky's credo that Hitlery can only ever dream of being - then I have a few questions for all of us.
1) What does it mean for a country when its very political structure is based on the principles espoused by Alinsky?
We're f#cked
2) What happens to personal liberties and freedoms when the very government we elect to protect us and watch out for our best interests is based on destructive social disruption principles like Alinsky's?
We're f#cked
3) Is this not the very form of tyranny our Founders warned us against, and gave us permission - nay, declaimed it as our duty - to remove?
Yes
4) Have you heard the expression that that was very popular by Alinsky's followers in the 60's that it is always wrong to support your government against your country, but it is never wrong to support your country against your government.
No, but I agree with it.
5) And if all of the above is true, where do you draw the line? What are your trigger points? What are you prepared - personally - to do, to act, to sacrifice to ensure our liberties remain intact?
They have already past the point where I am willing to act against the regime. For now it is through non violent methods, Letters to the editor, publicly speaking against their actions, ridiculing their hypocrisy, and flooding the rat line with counter arguments to waste their time and piss them off. Mean while I continue to search for like mindd individuals who relize we may need to step up to phase 2
6) Are you Libertarian/Constitutionalist/Patriot/whatever in fact and deed, or are you libertarian/constitutionalist/patriot/whatever so you can look cool saying things online?
I would have to say in fact, flag@whitehouse.gov would probably just say I'm a PITA ;D
Rhetorical questions, but ones we each should be asking ourselves.
The reason we have reached this point is because the Electorate slacked off. We the people neglected to "Guard with jealousy the tree of Liberty". We assumed that we elected people to take care of our responsibilities but that is not how it works. Government, by its nature is expansive like a gas, if you do not actively seal it out it seeps into every available nook and cranny. With out us maintaining a firm grip on our politicians our Govt. has been taken over by those who are opposed to the basic ideals of the American Republic.
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The reason we have reached this point is because the Electorate slacked off. We the people neglected to "Guard with jealousy the tree of Liberty". We assumed that we elected people to take care of our responsibilities but that is not how it works. Government, by its nature is expansive like a gas, if you do not actively seal it out it seeps into every available nook and cranny. With out us maintaining a firm grip on our politicians our Govt. has been taken over by those who are opposed to the basic ideals of the American Republic.
Actually, I am so thoroughly pissed off at the public school system I honestly believe that we have been taught to ignore the important, actively encouraged to watch the latest episode of Housewives of Survivors in 90210 (BTW, saw an ad for Househusbands, a bunch of mopes in Beverly Hills (?) whose wives are the breadwinners. No nice corners I could see, just a bunch of piss-ant metro-sexuals living large off their wives. This should actually be in the WTF thread).
BTTT - so as your last point indicated, done on purpose by those who hate the very thing that allows them to destroy what they hate. I worry that there is not enough rope, not enough lampposts for all of the Mussolini's in our midst.
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We could always try this (withOUT the net )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo_oigyFlTA
Who would give better range, Pelosi or Kennedy ? ;D
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We could always try this (withOUT the net )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo_oigyFlTA
Who would give better range, Pelosi or Kennedy ? ;D
Pelosi AND Kennedy..................two shitheads for the price of one!! ;D
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Maybe just tie the rope around their neck and SLAP em into the ground. ;D
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Maybe just tie the rope around their neck and SLAP em into the ground. ;D
Works for me. ;D