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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: blackwolfe on August 15, 2009, 12:24:34 PM
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Shot a CMP shoot today. Got home from work about 2:00 a.m. and to bed about 3:00 or a little later. Some how I managed to drag my butt out of bed at 7:00 a.m and get to the club on time. I cant shoot a rifle very well as I am right handed, left eye dominate. Other than shooting with forum member, Kilopaparomeo, a few weeks ago and the annual few preperation shots for deer hunting I haven't shot a rifle for years.
There were about 20 shooters. I shot one of the clubs M-1 Garands and they provided the ammo. Great deal as the cost for the shoot was only $20.00. I would say the Garand was the most common firearm used today. There were a few ARs and one M1A. There were at least 3 German Mausers and a Eddystone P-17 with the original 1918 barrel. One of the guys shot the John C. Garand match at Camp Perry quite recently. The M1A owner had built his rifle himself. One of the AR shooters had never shot an AR before. He said and I quote "It's my mommys gun." He said he was a pistol guy and had to barrow something from his parents to shoot today.
How'd I shoot? It was very hot, 86 when I left with sweat pouring in my eyes. I was so tired I had trouble keeping my eyes open, let alone see anything. Lets say that at 100 yards or less a bad guy is most likely in trouble. At 300 yards, well maybe 50/50 at best. I would have liked to have shot better, but I had fun and that is what it's all about for me.
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Congrats, sounds like a great time. I have yet to shoot a Garand, hope to some day, maybe even own one. Glad you had fun - that is what it is all about these days.
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Shot a CMP shoot today. Got home from work about 2:00 a.m. and to bed about 3:00 or a little later. Some how I managed to drag my butt out of bed at 7:00 a.m and get to the club on time. I cant shoot a rifle very well as I am right handed, left eye dominate. Other than shooting with forum member, Kilopaparomeo, a few weeks ago and the annual few preperation shots for deer hunting I haven't shot a rifle for years.
There were about 20 shooters. I shot one of the clubs M-1 Garands and they provided the ammo. Great deal as the cost for the shoot was only $20.00. I would say the Garand was the most common firearm used today. There were a few ARs and one M1A. There were at least 3 German Mausers and a Eddystone P-17 with the original 1918 barrel. One of the guys shot the John C. Garand match at Camp Perry quite recently. The M1A owner had built his rifle himself. One of the AR shooters had never shot an AR before. He said and I quote "It's my mommys gun." He said he was a pistol guy and had to barrow something from his parents to shoot today.
How'd I shoot? It was very hot, 86 when I left with sweat pouring in my eyes. I was so tired I had trouble keeping my eyes open, let alone see anything. Lets say that at 100 yards or less a bad guy is most likely in trouble. At 300 yards, well maybe 50/50 at best. I would have liked to have shot better, but I had fun and that is what it's all about for me.
Wolfe, if you can hit a BG 50/50 at 300, at the very least you'll scare the crap out of him!!
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Congrats to you ! If I had the chance to compete that would be my choice.
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A day making empty brass is a success in itself!
I had planned to go to a points match today, but had to stay home and work. Was real hard when I got in the van and the clock said 9:07 ... Shooting started at 9:00 :(
Oh well, there is always another chance somewhere.
Now Blackwolfe - Your assignment is to get back out there the very next chance you get! The nice thing about shooting sports is that you have printed evidence of how and what you did everytime, so it is easy to track your successes and work on improvements.
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Sounds really cool and sounds like a great time. I don't have a Garand, but I'd like to get one some day and it would be really great just to give the thing a workout.
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Good going BlackWolfe. Just getting out there is over half the battle.
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I went to one CMP shoot with a buddy. I only watched. I think it's the same match every time. If you like it, good. Shooting is shooting and if it helps the sport grow, also good. I just think I would get bored with it very quickly.
I think you can still buy CMP Garands at a good price.
http://www.thecmp.org/m1garand.htm
Good going BlackWolfe. Just getting out there is over half the battle.
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Hey BW
Sorry I couldn't meet you at the match today...I was at Cub Scout camp with my youngest. Family first!
Shooting rifles at long(er) ranges is a blast huh? Most people don't appreciate how difficult it is...we've come a nation of "benchrests and scopes" and forgotten the fine art of iron sights and slings.
See you there next time?
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Congrats Blackwolfe, the whole idea behind CMP is riflemanship, know your rifle, and know its limits at different ranges, keep a record book of your shots, this record will allow you to make adjustments that make sense, and give better scores in different conditions as you continue on your journey. Crosseye dominant, is a hard trail to follow, try blocking the left eye completely. In SD application, it is different, Marksmanship is second place, survival is 1st.... 4 minutes of angle = you going home, 1 minute at the wrong time = somebody beat you to the shot, but if you practice, you get both. We will talk one on one about this one. Glad you made the trip, and thanks for the info about the DPMS barrels.
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Congratulations Blackwolfe,
You were there, you competed and you had fun. That makes you a big winner in my book.
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Congratulations Blackwolfe,
You were there, you competed and you had fun. That makes you a big winner in my book.
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Good to hear about the CMP match. I haven't competed in one yet, just some vintage military rifle matches, but the format is the same. I can't agree more with the others about just getting out and putting lead on target, as long as you keep working at it, you will get better over time with practice. Good luck!
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The thing they drilled into us at Parris Island, after you had the positions down, (stable and consistent ) were
1) Sight picture
2) Trigger control
3) Breathing
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Good going BlackWolfe. Just getting out there is over half the battle.
In my case getting out there is probably 90% or more of the battle. With my work hours and commute to and from work I have very little time left over. The time I do have left over is mostly taken up by all those necessary life items leaving very little actual "free" time for fun.
I hope I didn't mislead anyone on my shooting abilities or actually lack there of. I really didn't feel comfortable in any of the shooting positions and my technique leaves very much to be desired. Still though at 100 yards or less I think minute of bad guy is probably usually within my capabilities. The greatest distance we shot was 100 yards. We didn't actually shoot at 300 yards but if I understood correctly the targets we used simulated 300 yards. Like I said earlier at BEST I would maybe be 50/50 minute of bad guy at that distance. Of course no bad guys were shooting back. I did what I wanted to do and that was just get out there and do it and have fun. Don't know when I can do it again, but I have room for a whole lot of improvement. Just need the time to get ot there for practice.
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In my case getting out there is probably 90% or more of the battle. With my work hours and commute to and from work I have very little time left over. The time I do have left over is mostly taken up by all those necessary life items leaving very little actual "free" time for fun.
I hope I didn't mislead anyone on my shooting abilities or actually lack there of. I really didn't feel comfortable in any of the shooting positions and my technique leaves very much to be desired. Still though at 100 yards or less I think minute of bad guy is probably usually within my capabilities. The greatest distance we shot was 100 yards. We didn't actually shoot at 300 yards but if I understood correctly the targets we used simulated 300 yards. Like I said earlier at BEST I would maybe be 50/50 minute of bad guy at that distance. Of course no bad guys were shooting back. I did what I wanted to do and that was just get out there and do it and have fun. Don't know when I can do it again, but I have room for a whole lot of improvement. Just need the time to get ot there for practice.
You can work on your positions at home. That's half the battle, once you attain stable and consistent positions Sight picture, trigger control, and breathing will keep you in the black out to 500 yards.
At P.I. we spent a week just sighting and dry firing at a barrel while the coach's checked our stability and position.
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Blackwolfe, I understand your time constants only too well. I work 7 days a week between my 2 jobs. What I did was to look for ranges in the area that held some type of match each month and then just try to make one every now and then. I am able to shoot on the weekend mornings till 12 then I have to go straight to work till 10pm. It does make for a long day, but once a month is not too much for me to handle. Finding time like that has allowed me to shoot at least once in awhile.
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I have wanted a M1 and a carbine for awhile, and my gun club has CMP matches every so often. I think your report has edged me off my ass and am going to go to the match next week. Based on what you said, it cost $20.00 and they funished the ammo and the guns, this sounds reasonable. My club furnishes both also, I can only assume at a similiar deal. Do they also allow ar-15 style rifles? thanks for the info.
Brian
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I have wanted a M1 and a carbine for awhile, and my gun club has CMP matches every so often. I think your report has edged me off my ass and am going to go to the match next week. Based on what you said, it cost $20.00 and they funished the ammo and the guns, this sounds reasonable. My club furnishes both also, I can only assume at a similiar deal. Do they also allow ar-15 style rifles? thanks for the info.
Brian
Yes but there are restrictions .