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Title: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: Texas_Bryan on August 17, 2009, 10:30:27 AM
Team,

Was watching the 'news' earlier and saw a story on the Texas elections.  Now I know there's a bunch of Texans here, and I wanted to get opinions.  Foreigners are welcome as well. ;)

Who has your support and why?
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 17, 2009, 11:51:11 AM
Perry, because he is willing to talk about secession and signed the Sovereignty Bill
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: Kid Shelleen on August 17, 2009, 11:55:26 AM
Perry, because he is willing to talk about secession and signed the Sovereignty Bill
That covers it for me!!!
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: mudman on August 17, 2009, 04:29:33 PM
PERRY
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: m25operator on August 17, 2009, 04:58:24 PM
PERRY, because he does most of what I want a politician to do, which is nothing. I did not like the south Texas corridor deal, but he has been very good on 2A, and CCW, as has most of our present representatives in Austin. He is really behind the troops as well, Got a pic from my buddy at the american embassy in Iraq, with He and Perry, at 8am, news did'nt put it out til after noon, He just snuck in there to see the troops. I wish K Bailey would just come home and retire, And Sam Johnson would take her place, but he is getting old.
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: Texas_Bryan on August 17, 2009, 10:23:17 PM
PERRY, because he does most of what I want a politician to do, which is nothing. I did not like the south Texas corridor deal, but he has been very good on 2A, and CCW, as has most of our present representatives in Austin. He is really behind the troops as well, Got a pic from my buddy at the american embassy in Iraq, with He and Perry, at 8am, news did'nt put it out til after noon, He just snuck in there to see the troops. I wish K Bailey would just come home and retire, And Sam Johnson would take her place, but he is getting old.

Good stuff.  I agree, politicians shouldn't do anything until they're told, to many worry about making their 'legacy'.  The same issues bother me as well, the Corridor, HPV vaccine, but recently he seems to have cleaned up his act.  Also, I'm digging the new stance towards Texas national security, the Governor's office is putting some much more aggressive policies in place.  And his new found openness to tell the truth about the Feds is got me all giddy.  I saw him on the news giving this speech and I felt the sudden urge to start cleaning my carbine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LHrIxc-QyE&feature=related
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: True_Texan on August 17, 2009, 10:55:25 PM
Tom and M25 nailed it all for me and Tom doesn't even live here. Why is that???

Plus I love a guy who can appreciate one of the finer manufactures in Texas.

He toured the LaRue Tactical factory... LUCKY SOB!

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=219&t=176336
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: Pathfinder on August 18, 2009, 07:15:23 AM
Tom and M25 nailed it all for me and Tom doesn't even live here. Why is that???

Plus I love a guy who can appreciate one of the finer manufactures in Texas.

He toured the LaRue Tactical factory... LUCKY SOB!

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=219&t=176336

Especially if he got free "samples"!
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: Woody on August 18, 2009, 08:24:25 AM
 Perry owns a carbine in which he gets good groups with. What concerns me is while "talking" seceding and voting in  the 10 th amendment here he is "doing"  things that fall in line with the globalists such as trying to sell the lottery and making all our roads toll roads. I think any body can be in too long. I think Kay Bailey and Bill White will run against him. Then they will throw in Kinky Friedman to confuse everybody. Kay was real upset when she moved to Washington and had to dismantle her .357 and keep it locked up. She would be good, but I really want Chuck Norris as President of Texas.
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: twyacht on August 18, 2009, 04:42:50 PM
They used to have tourism ads for Texas, and the punchline was:

"Texas, like it's own little country."  or something very similar....

Makes you go Hmmmm.... 8)
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: Texas_Bryan on August 18, 2009, 04:48:18 PM
They used to have tourism ads for Texas, and the punchline was:

"Texas, like it's own little country."  or something very similar....

Makes you go Hmmmm.... 8)

"Texas, its a whole other country."

A man can dream......

Or stock up ammo.
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: twyacht on August 18, 2009, 05:01:34 PM
"Texas, its a whole other country."

A man can dream......

Or stock up ammo.

Thanks Texas_Bryan,

Long live the Resistance....

Keep stockin up... ;)
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: tt11758 on August 18, 2009, 05:25:39 PM
"Texas, its a whole other country."

A man can dream......

Or stock up ammo.


Would you consider letting some of the rest of us join you?
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: TAB on August 18, 2009, 05:32:26 PM
I just wish some one in washington had the balls to call him out on the seceeding comments.


If your willing to say it, you should be willing todo it. 
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: TexGun on August 18, 2009, 05:53:58 PM
PERRY, because he does most of what I want a politician to do, which is nothing. I did not like the south Texas corridor deal, but he has been very good on 2A, and CCW, as has most of our present representatives in Austin. He is really behind the troops as well, Got a pic from my buddy at the american embassy in Iraq, with He and Perry, at 8am, news did'nt put it out til after noon, He just snuck in there to see the troops. I wish K Bailey would just come home and retire, And Sam Johnson would take her place, but he is getting old.

Howdy boys!  It's been a while......

I'm with you m25, a politician's job ought to be to keep the gov't out of the way.  There is something to be said for gridlock. :)  Other than the trans-Texas corridor deal, I'm on board with Perry.  I hope he can overcome that with the folks in Central Texas on the east side of I-35.

"Texas...it IS a whole other country!"  "Remeber the Alamo!!!"
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: m25operator on August 18, 2009, 06:21:39 PM
"I just wish some one in washington had the balls to call him out on the seceding comments.


If your willing to say it, you should be willing to do it. "

I like having that card to play, and I'm glad some OTHER states had the presence of mind to have that clause included when they became part of the union. Call him out how? Empty words from DC on deaf ears here. I know state troopers that are expecting and preparing for the worst, and in their vocation, are not alone.  Not Perry, but the state will decide, and in that I think he will back it, sure there will be some descent from areas like Houston, Austin, and some of the other left leaning cities, but state wide, I think it would fly, but why do it now when the state is so strong? Even though the govt, knows  our hole card, we don't play it, until it's needed.
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: TAB on August 18, 2009, 06:34:16 PM
Like it or not, every goverment agency gets money from the fed( schools for example get about 25%, some LEA get 50%.)    If I was the POTUS, after he made that comment, all federal funding gets shut off. 

Giving TX basicly two choices, get rid of the guy that said it, or go ahead and leave.   

I really don't think TX could stand with out the help of the rest of the US.


If you can't tell I see what was said as a kid holding thier breath to get what they want... Don't make threats, you never plan on going thru with.  sooner or later some one is going to call your bluff.
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: twyacht on August 18, 2009, 06:55:01 PM
The "Noose" held over "ALL" states is Federal Funding, if Texas can do without it, in a feasible and rational method, without punitive consequences for its citizens, I say become another country.

I'd be glad to come. (Although, I'd have to be near the coast), My Grandfather is buried in Avarado. He'd smile if he knew I moved to TX.

Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: m25operator on August 18, 2009, 07:26:50 PM
Well 1st, no more income tax, social security, or medicare, that will give all Texans a 30% raise in pay, that should more than pay for things that are now federally funded. Of course that is an oxymoron, The feds never funded anything, they are just giving us some of our money back. It will give businesses more than that, if they don't have to pay the fed witholding taxes. I would expect state taxes to increase of course, and some new taxes that we have never had like state income tax. Now with our new lower overhead, we can do things less expensively than other states, but still with high quality, like Dell, Texas instruments, Nasa, a lot of our chemical factories, our oil and natural gas, you get the picture.

Now we also are free to negotiate with Mexico for managed migrant worker programs for picking fruit and building infrastructure, and send their asses back when they are done. We would do it in a nice and fair way of course. Pick them up and transport and then bus them back. The people I would worry about are those now on social security etc..., but I have customers subsisting on this that live in Mexico, and they still get their checks. Of course they lead a higher quality of life there, as their money goes farther,  without our freedoms of course, but it works for some. Not the best health care, but a good calm climate, if you don't get real sick.

Now all the federal buildings that won't be necessary, the federal judges, and employee's that won't be necessary, we would try to find jobs for the employee's, of course they will have to work for a living now, but most of the feds can go back to the other country. The buildings could be made into housing for the imported workers. I have LE friends in Govt agencies, never trusted too many of them completely, but some.

We give more than we get. I think like Hawaii, we will not allow anyone who is not a natural born Texan, to purchase property, just lease it. I don't know if that is still true, but like the Idea. ;D
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: True_Texan on August 18, 2009, 07:54:45 PM
I like the way you think M25.  Running for office anytime soon?  ;)

As far as the toll roads, SH 130 almost cut through my family's ranch. I would have been plenty pissed about that. I know a couple of land owners that did have it come through their places but were paid a reasonable amount for their land.

As someone who has to take the occasional drive from south of Austin up into Temple/Belton and sometimes Waco, I gladly pay the toll just to avoid the congestion on IH-35 through Austin. In fact, once they finish segments 5 and 6 it will tie into IH-10 right outside of my town and make it a WHOLE lot easier to get up north of Austin.


And TAB:
     "Texas can survive without the United States, but the United States can not survive without Texas!" - Sam Houston
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: TexGun on August 18, 2009, 08:43:22 PM
And TAB:
     "Texas can survive without the United States, but the United States can not survive without Texas!" - Sam Houston
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Unlike California, who can't survive without the United States...

Although the tollway gets me quickly down close to my step children in Elgin and down further to the in-laws in Buda, it is rather ashame to know that the tolway will only expedite the development of all of those great ranch properties.



Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: TAB on August 18, 2009, 08:52:31 PM
actually CA produces most of the non grain ag products in the US. not to mention we have several other major industrys, manufactoring, shiping...  TX only has some oil, of which most of it is imported these days, so tx would be screwed with out the US. 
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 18, 2009, 08:58:19 PM
Like it or not, every goverment agency gets money from the fed( schools for example get about 25%, some LEA get 50%.)    If I was the POTUS, after he made that comment, all federal funding gets shut off.  

Giving TX basicly two choices, get rid of the guy that said it, or go ahead and leave.    

I really don't think TX could stand with out the help of the rest of the US.


If you can't tell I see what was said as a kid holding thier breath to get what they want... Don't make threats, you never plan on going thru with.  sooner or later some one is going to call your bluff.

Yes, but then most times you join a political thread the rest of us think your a bone head, so why should this one be any different ?
By the way, Ever notice that with the exception of the Civil war, which the Founders set us up for by not addressing slavery in 1783, America went along nicely until  Ca. joined the union, ever since then one batch of socialist whiners after another has found some thing to piss and moan about. One of those things that makes you say HMMM
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: twyacht on August 18, 2009, 09:02:25 PM
As domain would cover the untapped regions in the gulf of mexico, and solar, wind, and nuclear options abound, there is merit for energy.

Agricultural endeavors would have to be ramped up, and as the remaining 49 states are greedy,..."Free Trade Zones" could be established in border towns to deal with the demand. National Guard troops would be rotated for an able bodied militia, that would protect the border,...

There is a solution,.....there is a way,.....All opposition wanting to leave, would be paid fair market value for their holdings and given a "stately wave" Good bye.... A Fair Tax Policy would be implemented, and the economy would boom...





Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 18, 2009, 09:05:06 PM
As domain would cover the untapped regions in the gulf of mexico, and solar, wind, and nuclear options abound, there is merit for energy.

Agricultural endeavors would have to be ramped up, and as the remaining 49 states are greedy,..."Free Trade Zones" could be established in border towns to deal with the demand. National Guard troops would be rotated for an able bodied militia, that would protect the border,...

There is a solution,.....there is a way,.....All opposition wanting to leave, would be paid fair market value for their holdings and given a "stately wave" Good bye.... A Fair Tax Policy would be implemented, and the economy would boom...


I'd move there. Probably wind up swapping places with my sister who lives near Dallas and would FLEE back to her Mass roots.  ;D
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: Luv2Shoot on August 18, 2009, 10:01:00 PM
actually CA produces most of the non grain ag products in the US. not to mention we have several other major industrys, manufactoring, shiping...  TX only has some oil, of which most of it is imported these days, so tx would be screwed with out the US. 

Ahh... but Texas also has the most oil refineries(25) in the USA followed by California (21) although California can produce 2.1 million barrels of oil per day, Texas produces 5 million barrels per day. Take that away from the US and who's screwed now. Sure you'll still have fuel but at what cost? Texas also has many manufacturing plants as well as shipping. Plus there's nothing Texas wouldn't be able to import from other countries.  ;D

"Viva la Revolucion"
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: Luv2Shoot on August 18, 2009, 10:08:47 PM

Would you consider letting some of the rest of us join you?

Sure... But you have to bring your own ammo.  ;D
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: True_Texan on August 19, 2009, 03:44:23 AM
If Texas ever decided to secede from the Union, I think the major problem would be immigration from the United States side of the border. I am sure there are a hell of a lot of people that are unhappy with the US government that would love to move to a better place. Texas would become that better place the moment it withdrew.

I love the space around me between myself and other people so having an influx of people come in wouldn't be a good thing to me. During Katrina, my town (over 500 miles away from the epicenter) got bull rushed by people leaving New Orleans. The worst of it all was, a lot of them decided to stay. It increased crime dramatically for one, but it also put a burden on people who knew what open country Texas is like.

Would just be sad to see Texas, the way I know it with it's empty back roads and open plains, filled up with garden homes. (It's already getting bad as it is.) Maybe anyone wanting to move here should be required to live for 2 years in the far west of Texas. Out in Marfa/Marathon/Big Bend area. If they choose to stay and survive there, they will be allowed into the rest of the State. Of course, there would be a provision for all decent, non-Texas bashing DRTV members to move in freely. ;D

Who knows though. It's just my basic rambling thoughts that rattle around in my 'What If' mind.
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: Luv2Shoot on August 19, 2009, 07:19:32 AM
Texas has an open door policy... Just don't forget from which direction you came from incase you don't like Texas and if that's the case, on your way back don't let the door hit ya where Mother Nature split ya  ;D

Oh yea bring your own ammo... ;)
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: Hazcat on August 19, 2009, 07:28:51 AM
Well, let me state my belief for the Texicans on this board.

I figure that those of us that served in the military get to live anywhere we want as we served the whole country so don't give me any of that "you can't move here crap".  Y'all can just thank us with a nice welcome BBQ when we become neighbors.  ;)
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: Luv2Shoot on August 19, 2009, 07:56:08 AM
Well, let me state my belief for the Texicans on this board.

I figure that those of us that served in the military get to live anywhere we want as we served the whole country so don't give me any of that "you can't move here crap".  Y'all can just thank us with a nice welcome BBQ when we become neighbors.  ;)

Damn stright...
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: Texas_Bryan on August 19, 2009, 12:30:10 PM
Well, let me state my belief for the Texicans on this board.

I figure that those of us that served in the military get to live anywhere we want as we served the whole country so don't give me any of that "you can't move here crap".  Y'all can just thank us with a nice welcome BBQ when we become neighbors.  ;)

If any of ya'll decide to move here, you got five minutes to complain about the heat.  After that you ass is outta here. ;D  And just to make it clear, Texas was nothing but foreigners  when it was create.  That's why we got all those flags in the Alamo, you move here and 'want' to be a Texan, then your in. ;)
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: Hazcat on August 19, 2009, 12:49:35 PM
As I live in FL now I don't think the heat will be a problem.  What is the humidity like?  I don't like it real dry. (kills my sinuses)
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: tt11758 on August 19, 2009, 01:02:22 PM
As I live in FL now I don't think the heat will be a problem.  What is the humidity like?  I don't like it real dry. (kills my sinuses)


I could SO get used to not having snow up past my ass in minus 40 degree temperatures.

I'm packing the ammo even as we speak.
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: True_Texan on August 19, 2009, 01:23:10 PM
As I live in FL now I don't think the heat will be a problem.  What is the humidity like?  I don't like it real dry. (kills my sinuses)

Right now it is 49% humidity (where I am). It swings around so much I normally don't pay attention to actual percent. When you get those tiny sprinkles of rain that evaporate before they hit the ground that makes it feel like a sauna , is when it sucks the most.

There's the ol' saying, "If you don't like the weather in Texas, just wait a minute. It'll change."
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: Hazcat on August 19, 2009, 01:28:26 PM
Right now it is 49% humidity (where I am). It swings around so much I normally don't pay attention to actual percent. When you get those tiny sprinkles of rain that evaporate before they hit the ground that makes it feel like a sauna , is when it sucks the most.

There's the ol' saying, "If you don't like the weather in Texas, just wait a minute. It'll change."

Not too bad. It's 54% here right now which is on the low side of our normal range.
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: shooter32 on August 19, 2009, 01:28:41 PM
Right now it is 49% humidity (where I am). It swings around so much I normally don't pay attention to actual percent. When you get those tiny sprinkles of rain that evaporate before they hit the ground that makes it feel like a sauna , is when it sucks the most.

There's the ol' saying, "If you don't like the weather in Texas, just wait a minute. It'll change."


Hasn't it been 30 + days of 100+ temps there??

The ol' saying in Colorado is "wait 10 minutes and it will change" ;)
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: True_Texan on August 19, 2009, 01:36:21 PM

Hasn't it been 30 + days of 100+ temps there??

The ol' saying in Colorado is "wait 10 minutes and it will change" ;)

You got me on that one Shooter! It is always hot, but sometimes the wind blows. It may even rain for 5 seconds.  ;D

Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: GASPASSERDELUXE on August 19, 2009, 02:44:16 PM
         The current amount of days of 100 degrees + temp is 51 as of 2 days ago. We had a cold spell and it only reached 99. the old record was 36 days set in 1998. humidity in the morning is 75 to 90 %. usually boils off by noon or 1 o'clock. the record is expected to reach close to 60 days.
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 19, 2009, 05:07:46 PM
         The current amount of days of 100 degrees + temp is 51 as of 2 days ago. We had a cold spell and it only reached 99. the old record was 36 days set in 1998. humidity in the morning is 75 to 90 %. usually boils off by noon or 1 o'clock. the record is expected to reach close to 60 days.

Sounds better all the time, up here if it's humid in the AM it will be that way all day unless there is a rain storm then it may relieve it, or it may make it worse.
Title: Re: Governor of the Republic of Texas
Post by: Kid Shelleen on August 23, 2009, 01:51:11 AM
Well, let me state my belief for the Texicans on this board.

I figure that those of us that served in the military get to live anywhere we want as we served the whole country so don't give me any of that "you can't move here crap".  Y'all can just thank us with a nice welcome BBQ when we become neighbors.  ;)
You're more than welcome, but don't dilly dally 'cause we Texans do things right. There will be very secured borders, pronto.