Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Hazcat on August 25, 2009, 11:49:16 AM
Title: Republicans Have Offered Three Alternative Health Care Reform Bills
Post by: Hazcat on August 25, 2009, 11:49:16 AM
Monday, August 24, 2009 By Penny Starr, Senior Staff Writer
(CNSNews.com) – President Barack Obama and Democrats in Congress -- while pushing their own health care overhauls -- have criticized Republicans as offering only opposition and no ideas for reform, but the GOP, despite the lack of media attention, has introduced three health care bills.
The three Republican bills total almost 400 pages and have been on the table since May and June.
In May, Republicans in the House and the Senate formed a bicameral coalition to produce the130-page “Patients Choice Act of 2009.”
In June, Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) introduced the “Health Care Freedom Plan,” a 41-page proposal.
And in July, the Republican Study Committee, under the leadership of Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.), unveiled the “Empowering Patients First Act,” a 130-page plan.
Some of the provisions included in one or more of the bills include: investing in preventive medicine, an overhaul of Medicaid, reduction of abuse and fraud in the Medicare program, supplemental health insurance for low-income families, tax credits for health insurance, and a ban on federal funds being used for abortions.
However, supporters of the Democratic plans have accused Republicans of trying to derail attempts at reforming health care without having a plan of their own.
“There is no Republican health care plan out there,” Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) told Talk Radio News Service on July 31 about what he called the Republican-backed “misinformation campaign” that is slowing health care reform.
He said Republicans are satisfied with the status quo and “don’t want to show the American people where they stand on these issues.”
At a White House briefing on Aug. 18, Press Secretary Robert Gibbs criticized Republicans for not wanting to make the health care system better.
“Only a handful seem interested in the type of comprehensive reform that so many people believe is necessary to ensure the principles and the goals that the president has laid out,” Gibbs said.
In May, Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) said his bill, co-sponsored by Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.), and Reps. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), puts a priority on patients and their ability to oversee their own health care choices.
“As a practicing physician, I have seen first-hand how giving government more control over health care has failed to make health care more affordable or accessible,” Coburn said. “The ‘Patients Choice Act’ will provide every American with access to affordable health care without a tax increase, more debt or waiting lines.”
“The American health care system needs a complete transformation,” Burr said. “The ‘Patients’ Choice Act’ will finally enable Americans to own their health care instead of being trapped in the current system, which leaves people either uninsured, dependent on their employer, or forced into a government program.”
The “Patients Choice Act” has been referred to the Senate Finance Committee, which is set to release a Democratic-crafted bill from that committee when Congress returns after Labor Day.
In June, DeMint, chairman of the Senate Steering Committee, introduced the “Health Care Freedom Plan,” which was analyzed by the Heritage Foundation. The conservative policy think tank said DeMint’s bill could reduce the number of uninsured by 22.4 million people in five years.
It also provides grants to help people with pre-existing conditions gain access to affordable insurance, and allows Americans to purchase health savings accounts to pay for insurance.
“The time has come for Americans to regain control of their health care choices, and the ‘Health Care Freedom Act’ empowers every American with the freedom to choose and own a plan that is best for them,” DeMint said.
DeMint’s bill also has been referred to the Senate Finance Committee.
In July, Price, who is also a practicing physician, introduced the “Empowering Patients First Act.”
“Today, we present a solution for health care reform that offers more patient-centered choices and care of the highest quality,” Price said. “The ‘Empowering Patients First Act’ is a budget neutral proposal based on the fundamental principle that personal medical decisions should be made by patients in consultation with the doctors rather than unaccountable bureaucrats in Washington.”
Price’s bill also emphasizes preventive health care, tax credits, reduction of fraud and abuse in existing federal health care programs, and health care programs tailored to meet the needs of Native Americans and U.S. military veterans.
The bill has been referred to the House Committee on Energy and Commerce, as well as to the committees on Ways and Means, Education and Labor, Oversight and Government Reform, and the Judiciary, Rules, Budget, and Appropriations committees.
There are differences between the legislation offered so far by Republicans. The “Empowering Patients First Act,” for example, is the only one of the three proposed bills that specifically prohibits federal funds being used for abortion.
The fate of the Republican proposals is also uncertain, with the Democrats controlling both chambers of Congress and Obama in charge of signing whatever final health care reform legislation lands on his desk.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/52896
Don't see Tort reform in any of them
Title: Re: Republicans Have Offered Three Alternative Health Care Reform Bills
Post by: ericire12 on August 25, 2009, 11:49:53 AM
Party of "NO" ::)
Title: Re: Republicans Have Offered Three Alternative Health Care Reform Bills
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 25, 2009, 12:00:33 PM
The Problem is that if the proposed bill is less than 1000 pages they can't slip in things like this
James Peasley [1]uncovers another goody buried in the House health care reform bill: Strict liability for accidental underpayment of income taxes.
Under current law, taxpayers who lose an argument with the IRS can generally avoid penalties by showing they tried in good faith to comply with the tax law. In a broad range of circumstances, the health-care bill would change the law to impose strict liability penalties for income-tax underpayments, meaning that taxpayers will no longer have the luxury of making an honest mistake. The ability of even the IRS to waive penalties in sympathetic cases would be sharply curtailed.
The proposed changes in penalty rules have largely escaped notice because they are buried in a part of the bill that purports to deal with abusive tax shelters. They are barely mentioned in the Ways and Means Committee summary. Their inclusion in the bill underscores the need to read it closely. If anyone had doubts about the value of loading the text of the bill into a wheelbarrow and bringing it to the beach this August, the proposed changes to tax penalties should dispel them.
Of course, it would be silly to expect legislators to actually [2]read the whole bill before they vote for it (that would prevent them from blaming the IRS for enforcing the law as Congress enacted it).
The Problem is that if the proposed bill is less than 1000 pages they can't slip in things like this
And then they shamelessly mock their constituents for requesting that they actually read the bill!
Title: Re: Republicans Have Offered Three Alternative Health Care Reform Bills
Post by: WatchManUSA on August 25, 2009, 12:09:51 PM
There must be an exemption hidden in there some place for members of the Obama Administration.
Title: Re: Republicans Have Offered Three Alternative Health Care Reform Bills
Post by: tt11758 on August 25, 2009, 01:20:21 PM
Whatever happened to that group that called itself "THRO"? It stood for "Throw The Hypocritical Rascals Out".
Isn't it about time for another movement of that kind?
Except maybe this time it should be "STSBTR" (Show The Socialist Bastards The Rope)
Title: Re: Republicans Have Offered Three Alternative Health Care Reform Bills
Post by: blackwolfe on August 27, 2009, 04:42:58 PM
I spoke to my congressman Fred Upton (R-MI) in person last week. He said that an amendment was offered to require members of congress to to come under the smae health care provisions that might be passed. The amendment was soundly defeated. I guess that is no surprise really.
Title: Re: Republicans Have Offered Three Alternative Health Care Reform Bills
Post by: MikeBjerum on August 27, 2009, 05:02:49 PM
My healthcare plan - (three fold)
1. No seperate health insurance group rates based on members. There is one rate chart for anyone anywhere in the country. If I work for IBM and have a $500 deductable I pay the same premium and get the same coverage as the same aged same gendered person that buys his own $500 deductable policy. Same goes for patient billing. An x-ray is so many dollars whether I'm private pay or company x, company y or the county welfare department. When different groups negotiate or dictate lower rates someone else has to pick up the slack and pay more.
2. Tort reform. Hold the industry responsible for their actions and errors, but do not award millions in pain and suffering based on emotion.
3. Oversee and investigate outrageous inflation and abuse like we would with any other industry. In recent years there have been hearings and outcrys over the oil industry. However, what went on with oil is just a fraction and a very short lived portion of what the medical industry has been doing for years.
Yes, it gets more complex as you dig into it, but here is a starting point.
Title: Re: Republicans Have Offered Three Alternative Health Care Reform Bills
Post by: tt11758 on August 27, 2009, 05:07:00 PM
1. No seperate health insurance group rates based on members. There is one rate chart for anyone anywhere in the country. If I work for IBM and have a $500 deductable I pay the same premium and get the same coverage as the same aged same gendered person that buys his own $500 deductable policy. Same goes for patient billing. An x-ray is so many dollars whether I'm private pay or company x, company y or the county welfare department. When different groups negotiate or dictate lower rates someone else has to pick up the slack and pay more.
2. Tort reform. Hold the industry responsible for their actions and errors, but do not award millions in pain and suffering based on emotion.
3. Oversee and investigate outrageous inflation and abuse like we would with any other industry. In recent years there have been hearings and outcrys over the oil industry. However, what went on with oil is just a fraction and a very short lived portion of what the medical industry has been doing for years.
Yes, it gets more complex as you dig into it, but here is a starting point.
Seems reasonable to me.
Title: Re: Republicans Have Offered Three Alternative Health Care Reform Bills
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 27, 2009, 08:43:31 PM
3 words Deregulation, outlaw AMA
Title: Re: Republicans Have Offered Three Alternative Health Care Reform Bills
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on August 31, 2009, 12:02:53 AM
Congressman Rogers' makes his opening statement on Health Care reform legislation that is under debate in Congress.
Congressman Rogers spoke to Fox News about provisions in the Democrat Health Care plan that will ration your healthcare and create a commission to set prices for healthcare in America