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Title: Stack on safes - not as good as Liberty I'm sure but good enough?
Post by: wtr100 on August 25, 2009, 01:04:04 PM
once the bunker is done you'll have to get through two locked doors to get to it - so I'm guessing at that point short of a bank vault

thoughts on this safe

http://stack-on.com/securityplus/elite_safes/gsx-524.html
Title: Re: Stack on safes - not as good as Liberty I'm sure but good enough?
Post by: Badgersmilk on August 25, 2009, 01:27:32 PM
Spending more money on another one may net you fancier options (recessed interior mood lighting, higher temperature fire protection, nicer lining material, exc.), but it wont likely do anymore to stop a thief.

AA batteries are pretty tough, but Stack-on combo safe's take four.  Other brands take 9 volts.  So get one of those to.  Harbor Freight sells hammers for $3.99.  Bring an extra 3" piece of wire pre-striped on the ends (pull it out of anything you like for free, 18 gauge is plenty thick).

Congratulations!  Your now an official "gun safe cracker"!  
Title: Re: Stack on safes - not as good as Liberty I'm sure but good enough?
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 25, 2009, 02:09:49 PM
 Better than I expected, the stack on safes I've seen were the Wal Mart ones for under $100
the best safe or lock in the world will only slow down a determined thief.
Title: Re: Stack on safes - not as good as Liberty I'm sure but good enough?
Post by: twyacht on August 25, 2009, 08:41:43 PM
All you can hope for is time,,,,that is the enemy of any thief,....

And God won't save them if I get home during,.....Plus, the wife works out of our home and keeps a "surprise" very close during the day.

And of course I have a version of Endcat...

(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/endcat.jpg)

Once he gets rollin', he's unstoppable,... ;)
Title: Re: Stack on safes - not as good as Liberty I'm sure but good enough?
Post by: TAB on August 25, 2009, 09:41:10 PM
As my father recently learned, it does not matter how good the safe is, if it s not secured to the house, they will just take it.
Title: Re: Stack on safes - not as good as Liberty I'm sure but good enough?
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 25, 2009, 09:44:45 PM
 Wish I could find the link some one posted when MB was having safe problems.
It showed 2 guys, 1 had a pry bar, the other had a crow bar, they were into a name brand safe in under 2 minutes.
Title: Re: Stack on safes - not as good as Liberty I'm sure but good enough?
Post by: blackwolfe on August 25, 2009, 10:16:25 PM
At one of the gun shops I get to occassionally the clerk was telling me about what happened to one of his clients.
The guy came home and found his safe gone and a big hole in the wall.  They had chainsawed around the safe that was on an outside wall.  They found tire tracks and drag marks to the back of his property.  They figured it was then loaded into a truck or onto a trailer.
Title: Re: Stack on safes - not as good as Liberty I'm sure but good enough?
Post by: ericire12 on August 25, 2009, 10:18:22 PM
At one of the gun shops I get to occassionally the clerk was telling me about what happened to one of his clients.
The guy came home and found his safe gone and a big hole in the wall.  They had chainsawed around the safe that was on an outside wall.  They found tire tracks and drag marks to the back of his property.  They figured it was then loaded into a truck or onto a trailer.

If they want something bad enough, they will get it.
Title: Re: Stack on safes - not as good as Liberty I'm sure but good enough?
Post by: Walkeraviator on August 27, 2009, 09:25:17 AM
Your biggest asset is keeping a damn secret.  Guys show up with a chainsaw and a truck knew what was there and were on a mission.  The random house buglar is not going to come prepared to cart off a couple hundred pounds of safe. 
Title: Re: Stack on safes - not as good as Liberty I'm sure but good enough?
Post by: sledgemeister on August 27, 2009, 09:55:23 AM
Wish I could find the link some one posted when MB was having safe problems.
It showed 2 guys, 1 had a pry bar, the other had a crow bar, they were into a name brand safe in under 2 minutes.

Is this the test you are refferring to?
http://www.libertysafe.com/homesecurity.php?page=8


edit:
this is the one I was actually looking for
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhOjWHbD6M
Title: Re: Stack on safes - not as good as Liberty I'm sure but good enough?
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 27, 2009, 10:41:06 AM
 Thanks Sledge, it was the second one I had seen.
Title: Re: Stack on safes - not as good as Liberty I'm sure but good enough?
Post by: WatchManUSA on August 27, 2009, 10:43:51 AM
I’m not sure if you picked up the Stack-On but you have not you might check out a safe I got about a year ago or so.  I picked up a Dakota Safe.  It is modular so it comes disassembled and is delivered in several boxes.  A couple of guys can move it around.  You bolt it together from the inside and no bolt heads are accessible from the outside.  You can put it together where you want it and you could disassemble and move it, too.  It is not a high end safe but it does what I want it to do - slow down a bad guy.

http://www.dakotasafe.com/dakotasafes.html
Title: Re: Stack on safes - not as good as Liberty I'm sure but good enough?
Post by: twyacht on August 27, 2009, 07:13:16 PM
Fort Knox Torture test.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9buR30A_0lk&feature=related
Title: Re: Stack on safes - not as good as Liberty I'm sure but good enough?
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 27, 2009, 07:22:44 PM
Fort Knox Torture test.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9buR30A_0lk&feature=related

I am impressed with the fire protection but I would be more impressed if they had dropped it on a hard surface, or even just bare ground, going through the roof served to break it's fall and there sure seemed to be an awful lot of sofas and chairs inside to cushion its fall.
Title: Re: Stack on safes - not as good as Liberty I'm sure but good enough?
Post by: 1911 Junkie on August 27, 2009, 07:46:50 PM
I am impressed with the fire protection but I would be more impressed if they had dropped it on a hard surface, or even just bare ground, going through the roof served to break it's fall and there sure seemed to be an awful lot of sofas and chairs inside to cushion its fall.

I was impressed with the tacticoooooooool vest the dude thought he needed to wear to drop a safe through a house.  ???

Would have liked to see how long it took them to pry it open.
Title: Re: Stack on safes - not as good as Liberty I'm sure but good enough?
Post by: ericire12 on August 27, 2009, 07:53:45 PM
I’m not sure if you picked up the Stack-On but you have not you might check out a safe I got about a year ago or so.  I picked up a Dakota Safe.  It is modular so it comes disassembled and is delivered in several boxes.  A couple of guys can move it around.  You bolt it together from the inside and no bolt heads are accessible from the outside.  You can put it together where you want it and you could disassemble and move it, too.  It is not a high end safe but it does what I want it to do - slow down a bad guy.

http://www.dakotasafe.com/dakotasafes.html


How much $$$ ?