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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: tombogan03884 on August 26, 2009, 11:23:24 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090826/ap_on_he_me/us_med_swine_flu
WASHINGTON – Government health officials are urging people not to panic over estimates of 90,000 people dying from swine flu this fall. "Everything we've seen in the U.S. and everything we've seen around the world suggests we won't see that kind of number if the virus doesn't change," said Dr. Thomas Frieden, head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
He made the comment in a C-SPAN interview taped Wednesday.
While the swine flu seems quite easy to catch, it so far hasn't been more deadly than the flu strains seen every fall and winter — many people have only mild illness. And close genetic tracking of the new virus as it circled the globe over the last five months so far has shown no sign that it's mutating to become more virulent.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090826/ap_on_he_me/us_med_swine_flu
WASHINGTON – Government health officials are urging people not to panic over estimates of 90,000 people dying from swine flu this fall. "Everything we've seen in the U.S. and everything we've seen around the world suggests we won't see that kind of number if the virus doesn't change," said Dr. Thomas Frieden, head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
He made the comment in a C-SPAN interview taped Wednesday.
While the swine flu seems quite easy to catch, it so far hasn't been more deadly than the flu strains seen every fall and winter — many people have only mild illness. And close genetic tracking of the new virus as it circled the globe over the last five months so far has shown no sign that it's mutating to become more virulent.
Honestly, I tend to agree with the gu'mint on this. The fact that the news is of one or two fatalities here and there rather than dozens or hundreds, would be indicative. Even in Mexico City it was less than 4 dozen out of how many million? Plus, if you look at the numbers of how many thousands die from the flu every year (toddlers, the elderly, immuno-compromised folks etc.) I see little reason to panic and little recourse if you choose to.
FQ13
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Honestly, I tend to agree with the gu'mint on this. The fact that the news is of one or two fatalities here and there rather than dozens or hundreds, would be indicative. Even in Mexico City it was less than 4 dozen out of how many million? Plus, if you look at the numbers of how many thousands die from the flu every year (toddlers, the elderly, immuno-compromised folks etc.) I see little reason to panic and little recourse if you choose to.
FQ13
Some numbers of deaths are a little higher than some may think. Flu season really hasn't started yet and San Diego County already has 18 deaths. Brazil has 557. For the US, the last number I heard was 127. Of course, the flu kills quite a few every year anyway. I saw the other day that MRSA is killing 19,000 people a year too.
I don't think there is cause for panic yet, but it is worth keeping an eye on. Keep some stored food and water in case there ever is a potential outbreak of anything that may keep you holed up for a while. Beans, bullets and gasoline…
Wash your hands and make sure your little kids do too. Doctors are around people with the flu every year and they usually avoid it with simple hygiene.
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it hit hard here especially in Vic have had a couple of mates with it one it knocked about bad
however on a sadder note, had a good client and a very good bloke pass away last week, was a shock to me.
RIP Paul , thoughts go to your Family mate......
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Sorry to hear about your friend philw.
What concerns me are the anonymous Presidential Advisers that contradict the CDC.....
"Never let a crises go to waste"
paraphrased,....Darth Rahm Emanuel
I call BS on the WH numbers....just like the CDC did so much more politically correct.
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Given the opportunity and just to be sure, this may be the first year that I ever get the flu shot. Our family doctor is recommending it for our daughters and they never get sick.
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Given the opportunity and just to be sure, this may be the first year that I ever get the flu shot. Our family doctor is recommending it for our daughters and they never get sick.
Fuzz
This is less a pont of information than it is a query. My health is not great and my meds make my immune system less than excellent.I get the regular flu shot as a result.It is a "dead" vaccine.Still, I generally suffer a day or two's drag from it. No big deal. However the swine flu shot is new. I don't know (haven't researched yet) if it's a live" vaccine or not.If it is, the downside is that you might catch the thing from the shot. Did your doc explain this to you? As far as the regular flu shot,I would reccomend it,I just try to get mine on a friday, so it doesn't matter if I'm worthless the next day.
FQ13
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Fuzz
This is less a pont of information than it is a query. My health is not great and my meds make my immune system less than excellent.I get the regular flu shot as a result.It is a "dead" vaccine.Still, I generally suffer a day or two's drag from it. No big deal. However the swine flu shot is new. I don't know (haven't researched yet) if it's a live" vaccine or not.If it is, the downside is that you might catch the thing from the shot. Did your doc explain this to you? As far as the regular flu shot,I would reccomend it,I just try to get mine on a friday, so it doesn't matter if I'm worthless the next day.
FQ13
....................................................naw, it's too easy. ;D ;D ;D
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Fuzz
This is less a pont of information than it is a query. My health is not great and my meds make my immune system less than excellent.I get the regular flu shot as a result.It is a "dead" vaccine.Still, I generally suffer a day or two's drag from it. No big deal. However the swine flu shot is new. I don't know (haven't researched yet) if it's a live" vaccine or not.If it is, the downside is that you might catch the thing from the shot. Did your doc explain this to you? As far as the regular flu shot,I would reccomend it,I just try to get mine on a friday, so it doesn't matter if I'm worthless the next day.
FQ13
That's a good point to find out from the doc anything we can about a vaccine. There really hasn't been too much information on the vaccine that I've seen. Isn't it also a "dead" vaccine? Are they even going to have a vaccine in time? Does anyone know anything about it yet? It's completely possible that it won't be ready by the time this thing hits. I'll probably get the flu, then be fine.
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Last I remember hearing they were going to fall short on production so it was only going to be given to those "at risk".
That was a couple months ago.
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Please. Let's not call it the Swine Flu. It has nothing to do with swine. With everyone saying 'swine fly' it is hurting our swine industry.
I'll get off my high horse now, but someone has to stand up for our farmers. After all, they feed us.
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Please. Let's not call it the Swine Flu. It has nothing to do with swine. With everyone saying 'swine fly' it is hurting our swine industry.
I'll get off my high horse now, but someone has to stand up for our farmers. After all, they feed us.
I love swine....Got any place down your way to go shoot em?
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mmmmmmmmmm BACON!!!
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Speaking as a former resident of a large "pig farming" region in S.E. NC, these guys are sitting on a gold mine with their "lagoons" that could have been converted to Methanol for pennies on the dollar.
They were "subsidized" by the Feds and State, and "promised the EPA would chill out" regarding useful pig waste.
Why am I not surprised, by this OP?
More people died of the last rushed "flu" vaccine under Jimmy Carter, and that scare.
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That's a good point to find out from the doc anything we can about a vaccine. There really hasn't been too much information on the vaccine that I've seen. Isn't it also a "dead" vaccine? Are they even going to have a vaccine in time? Does anyone know anything about it yet? It's completely possible that it won't be ready by the time this thing hits. I'll probably get the flu, then be fine.[/color]
The flu shot does not prevent you from getting the flu. It only decreases the severity of your symptoms and improves your recovery time by 3-4 days.
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I've flu shots twice in the last 30 years, damn near died both times, other wise I'm miserable for a couple days and then back to normal.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,544262,00.html
Doctors are reporting a severe form of H1N1 that goes straight to the lungs, causing severe illness in otherwise healthy young people and requiring expensive hospital treatment, the World Health Organization said Friday.
http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2009/08/28/h1n1-vaccine-to-be-available-via-airport-kiosks/
H1N1 Vaccine To Be Available Via Airport Kiosks
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I've flu shots twice in the last 30 years, damn near died both times, other wise I'm miserable for a couple days and then back to normal.
are you algeric to eggs?
I am, last time I got the flu shot it put me in the hospital for a week.
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are you algeric to eggs?
I am, last time I got the flu shot it put me in the hospital for a week.
No, I'm not, it's just that I seem to be more resistant WITHOUT the shot.
Please. Let's not call it the Swine Flu. It has nothing to do with swine. With everyone saying 'swine fly' it is hurting our swine industry.
I'll get off my high horse now, but someone has to stand up for our farmers. After all, they feed us.
Sorry Jerry, but a critter or place is easier to remember (Bird, Swine , Asian ) than H1N1. ( it's also easier to type because the keys are closer together ;D )