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Title: Students' take-home assignment: Census kits
Post by: Pathfinder on August 27, 2009, 10:43:26 AM
This has Ayers' and AKORN's stink all over it.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/census/2009-08-26-census-kits-schools_N.htm (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/census/2009-08-26-census-kits-schools_N.htm)

FTA: "Anyone tempted to ignore the 2010 Census will have a tough time doing it — especially if they have kids in school.

The government has launched Census in Schools, an all-out campaign targeting superintendents, principals, teachers, students and, indirectly, parents, as schools open across the nation this month and next. The message: The Census is coming and here's why everyone should care.

The goal is to send posters, teaching guides, maps and lesson plans to every school in the nation, Puerto Rico and U.S. island territories to encourage everyone to participate in the national count. The materials will land in more than 118,000 schools and reach 56 million students.

"It's great to reach the children because children are such strong voices in their homes," says Renee Jefferson-Copeland, chief of the Census schools program. "In households that are linguistically isolated, they can express the information to their parents."
Title: Re: Students' take-home assignment: Census kits
Post by: Hazcat on August 27, 2009, 10:51:20 AM
And how much is this costing! (and how much is ACORN profiting!)
Title: Re: Students' take-home assignment: Census kits
Post by: MikeBjerum on August 27, 2009, 10:59:41 AM
I have always complained about teachers pushing their personal views and campaigning for their candidates and referendums in the classrooms.  Now we get our government using the classroom to run other programs. 

Maybe madatory testing is a much better thing than I ever thought.  If kids had to pass basic tests to move on, and teachers job security was tied to student performance, we may get help in getting rid of this type of crap.  I would think that a teacher trying to get a pay increase or just retain their job would want to spend as much time teaching as possible, and they would be the first ones to run to the NEA and scream for a stop on this type of thing.
Title: Re: Students' take-home assignment: Census kits
Post by: Timothy on August 27, 2009, 12:00:20 PM
I have always complained about teachers pushing their personal views and campaigning for their candidates and referendums in the classrooms.  Now we get our government using the classroom to run other programs. 

Maybe madatory testing is a much better thing than I ever thought.  If kids had to pass basic tests to move on, and teachers job security was tied to student performance, we may get help in getting rid of this type of crap.  I would think that a teacher trying to get a pay increase or just retain their job would want to spend as much time teaching as possible, and they would be the first ones to run to the NEA and scream for a stop on this type of thing.

I've seen it both ways.  In CT, mandatory testing of students for funding purposes for the school.  Teachers get a pass, it's not their fault if their students fail.  In MA, mandatory testing for students to graduate.  Teachers get a pass, it's not their fault if their students fail.

Both systems are designed to test the district but the students are the ones who suffer.  Teachers, administrators, school boards all get a pass.  It's not their fault if their students fail.....

Do you see a trend here?
Title: Re: Students' take-home assignment: Census kits
Post by: MikeBjerum on August 27, 2009, 12:49:58 PM
I've seen it both ways.  In CT, mandatory testing of students for funding purposes for the school.  Teachers get a pass, it's not their fault if their students fail.  In MA, mandatory testing for students to graduate.  Teachers get a pass, it's not their fault if their students fail.

Both systems are designed to test the district but the students are the ones who suffer.  Teachers, administrators, school boards all get a pass.  It's not their fault if their students fail.....

Do you see a trend here?

You pointed out the problem.  No Child Left Behind was a step toward the teacher responsibility that many have been trying for for many years, but it was corrupted just as badly as every other try.  The NEA has so much power that there is virtually no accountability for teachers anymore.

Back on track after a drift ...

How many times in history have children been used as pawns to whip parents into submission?  For years our children have been coaxed into "tattling" on family members.  Many parents have gone through hell, because a "professional" has determined that a child has been abused.  Many children have learned that if they don't like their parents' authority all they need  to do is tell someone at school.  Some states have used the courts to take away virtually every parental Right when it comes to raising their children.  I see this as the next wedge in the crack in the once great American Way.
Title: Re: Students' take-home assignment: Census kits
Post by: Hazcat on August 27, 2009, 12:55:49 PM
The way to solve this is disband the NEA and take our schools back to local control!
Title: Re: Students' take-home assignment: Census kits
Post by: tt11758 on August 27, 2009, 01:03:32 PM
Is anybody else bothered by this quote?

Quote
"It's great to reach the children because children are such strong voices in their homes," says Renee Jefferson-Copeland, chief of the Census schools program. "In households that are linguistically isolated, they can express the information to their parents."


Translation from government-speak to English:  "The kids can translate for their illegal alien parents who don't speak English, so we don't miss counting any of the undocumented, a mistake which might cripple our plan to redraw Congressional districts to our benefit."
Title: Re: Students' take-home assignment: Census kits
Post by: Hazcat on August 27, 2009, 01:06:31 PM
Is anybody else bothered by this quote?


Translation from government-speak to English:  "The kids can translate for their illegal alien parents who don't speak English, so we don't miss counting any of the undocumented, a mistake which might cripple our plan to redraw Congressional districts to our benefit."

BINGO!
Title: Re: Students' take-home assignment: Census kits
Post by: tombogan03884 on August 27, 2009, 01:45:13 PM
Is anybody else bothered by this quote?


Translation from government-speak to English:  "The kids can translate for their illegal alien parents who don't speak English, so we don't miss counting any of the undocumented, a mistake which might cripple our plan to redraw Congressional districts to our benefit."

The statement it self is not bad, many of the European immigrants who came LEGALLY through Ellis Island did not speak English, or not very well, they were at the mercy of Dem ward healers when documents like this were handed around.
However tt has nailed the true intent right on the head. The White House and ACORN can ONLY be involved for the purpose of gerrymandering congressional districts to maximize the influence of liberal (socialist ) urban party organizations in an attempt to disenfranchise true Americans.
Title: Re: Students' take-home assignment: Census kits
Post by: Kid Shelleen on August 27, 2009, 09:52:40 PM
Is anybody else bothered by this quote?


Translation from government-speak to English:  "The kids can translate for their illegal alien parents who don't speak English, so we don't miss counting any of the undocumented, a mistake which might cripple our plan to redraw Congressional districts to our benefit."
Nailed it again TT.
It's not even 2010 yet and I'm so pi$$ed off about the census and ACORN that I can't stand it.

This presidency is going to need a healthplan dedicated to all of us "Right-wing Terrorists" that the president is going to stroke out. My BP goes up every time I hear about something new from Barack.