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Title: Feds create new set of criminals!
Post by: Hazcat on September 01, 2009, 06:48:59 AM
Seller, beware: Feds cracking down on secondhand sales of some products

By JAMES ROSEN
McClatchy Newspapers

f you're planning a garage sale or organizing a church bazaar, you'd best beware: You could be breaking a new federal law. As part of a campaign called Resale Roundup, the federal government is cracking down on the secondhand sales of dangerous and defective products.

The initiative, which targets toys and other products for children, enforces a new provision that makes it a crime to resell anything that's been recalled by its manufacturer.

"Those who resell recalled children's products are not only breaking the law, they are putting children's lives at risk," said Inez Tenenbaum, the recently confirmed chairwoman of the Consumer Product Safety Commission.

The crackdown affects sellers ranging from major thrift-store operators such as Goodwill and the Salvation Army to everyday Americans cleaning out their attics for yard sales, church bazaars or - increasingly - digital hawking on eBay, Craigslist and other Web sites.

Secondhand sellers now must keep abreast of recalls for thousands of products, some of them stretching back more than a decade, to stay within the bounds of the law.

Staffers for the federal agency are fanning out across the country to conduct training seminars on the regulations at dozens of thrift shops.

"Even before this law, we had good mechanisms in place for pulling recalled products," said Jim Gibbons, the chief executive of Goodwill. "The law just kicks it up a notch, so Goodwills around the country will continue to improve our process."

Goodwill uses $2 billion in annual sales at its 2,300 thrift shops nationwide to pay for its job-training and employment-placement programs.

Gibbons said the nonprofit group was accustomed to inspectors from the Consumer Product Safety Commission making unannounced visits to its stores.

Scott Wolfson, a spokesman for the agency, said it wouldn't be dispatching bureaucratic storm troopers into private homes to see whether people were selling recalled products from their garages, yards or churches.

"We're not looking to come across as being heavy-handed," he said. "We want to make sure that everybody knows what the rules of engagement are to help spur greater compliance, so that enforcement becomes less of an issue. But we're still going to enforce."

The agency is working with eBay, Wolfson said, to help the online sales giant install software filters that will flag auction items subject to manufacturers' recalls.

The commission's Internet surveillance unit is monitoring Craigslist and other "top auction and reselling sites" for recalled goods. If the agency discovers that a recalled product has been sold online, it will try to find and inform the buyer, Wolfson said.

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http://www.kansascity.com/444/story/1395184.html

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This is getting downright scary! It seems as though the feds are trying to make everyone a criminal.  Oh they will say but it's 'for the children' but let's face it 'it's for the control and power'!
Title: Re: Feds create new set of criminals!
Post by: shooter32 on September 01, 2009, 09:44:32 AM
[color=redThis is getting downright scary! It seems as though the feds are trying to make everyone a criminal.  Oh they will say but it's 'for the children' but let's face it 'it's for the control and power'!][/color]



How much "more government" is needed for "the children"? ::) >:(
Title: Re: Feds create new set of criminals!
Post by: Pathfinder on September 01, 2009, 10:00:08 AM
Lots of this going on Haz, and people are starting to talk. Hope it ain't too late.

http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/84328/ (http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/84328/)
August 31, 2009

IN THE MAIL: From Harvey Silverglate, Three Felonies a Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent. Some years ago I started on a project entitled Due Process When Everything Is A Crime. The gist was that since criminal law has expanded to the point where everyone is some sort of a felon, the real action is in the area of prosecutorial discretion — in choosing whom to prosecute from among this population-wide mass of the guilty — where, in fact, due process basically doesn’t apply. That suggests that maybe there should be some due-process limits on decisions to prosecute. I never got to it (my scholarly rangetop has so many back burners it must be a half-mile deep) but the issue continues to deserve attention

Along these lines, you might also see Gene Healy’s Go Directly to Jail: The Criminalization of Almost Everything, and Angela Davis’s (no, not that Angela Davis) Arbitrary Justice: The Power of the American Prosecutor. It’s an issue that’s worthy of a lot of attention."

And of course, that great quote from Atlas Shrugged:
"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws...you create a nation of law-breakers and then you cash in on guilt."
Ayn Rand


Title: Re: Feds create new set of criminals!
Post by: Jackel on September 01, 2009, 10:06:42 AM
next there is going to be a weight limit on how much we crap every 24 hours
Title: Re: Feds create new set of criminals!
Post by: Hazcat on September 01, 2009, 10:59:59 AM
Lots of this going on Haz, and people are starting to talk. Hope it ain't too late.

http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/84328/ (http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/84328/)
August 31, 2009

IN THE MAIL: From Harvey Silverglate, Three Felonies a Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent. Some years ago I started on a project entitled Due Process When Everything Is A Crime. The gist was that since criminal law has expanded to the point where everyone is some sort of a felon, the real action is in the area of prosecutorial discretion — in choosing whom to prosecute from among this population-wide mass of the guilty — where, in fact, due process basically doesn’t apply. That suggests that maybe there should be some due-process limits on decisions to prosecute. I never got to it (my scholarly rangetop has so many back burners it must be a half-mile deep) but the issue continues to deserve attention

Along these lines, you might also see Gene Healy’s Go Directly to Jail: The Criminalization of Almost Everything, and Angela Davis’s (no, not that Angela Davis) Arbitrary Justice: The Power of the American Prosecutor. It’s an issue that’s worthy of a lot of attention."

And of course, that great quote from Atlas Shrugged:
"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws...you create a nation of law-breakers and then you cash in on guilt."
Ayn Rand




That sums up my thoughts when I read this article, quite concisely.  Make everyone a criminal that way if and when they want you they can easily find some charge to get you on. After all they got Capone on Tax law not criminal law!  Once they figured that out it was obvious that the next thing to do would be more laws to get them more power!
Title: Re: Feds create new set of criminals!
Post by: Woody on September 01, 2009, 11:36:46 AM
It's all about getting you into the system, under their thumb. This is the redistribution of wealth, but this hurts people that are struggling, which makes it just another way to tax us into chains which we thought we were free of.
Didn't we just declare our 10 th in several states? Well, let's enforce it! They are trespassing out of their jurisdiction.
The Fed is the perp, using County Grants with your money to make laws to establish total control of your locals.
 Our hard earned dollars are paving the road to enslavement. More Education and shots for the children [guarded by swat teams] for our Safety, [show us your papers, take off your shoes] National Security? [We can't tell you anything we are doing to you]. By the way we took all the money and we can't tell you where it went.
This follows Saul Alinsky's Rules for radicals. Rule number twelve is the Government game plan. Isolate the ones that would oppose the coup and suppress all sympathy for the original base falsely accusing them using labels and use popularity and peer pressure. Force Congress to write laws to make the legal citizens activities illegal. Suppress, Register and Confiscate. Trace track and tax all activities until they owe us. Then foreclose.
The last official act of any government is to loot the people. 
Title: Re: Feds create new set of criminals!
Post by: blackwolfe on September 01, 2009, 11:57:58 AM
next there is going to be a weight limit on how much we crap every 24 hours

Crap and trade carbon emissions ;D


Look out for books.  Heard something awhile back about kids books especially.  Can't remember the details and can't find it right now, but esentially any kids books printed before a certain date had to be destroyed.  Seems the little cookie grabbers naw on the books and they might have lead in them.  So those Hardy Boys books you grew up with and still have for the grandkids are contraband. 
Title: Re: Feds create new set of criminals!
Post by: Johnny Bravo on September 01, 2009, 12:58:03 PM
How much more of this crap do they expect us to take? "Alot" I guess.
Title: Re: Feds create new set of criminals!
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 01, 2009, 12:59:47 PM
Crap and trade carbon emissions ;D


Look out for books.  Heard something awhile back about kids books especially.  Can't remember the details and can't find it right now, but esentially any kids books printed before a certain date had to be destroyed.  Seems the little cookie grabbers naw on the books and they might have lead in them.  So those Hardy Boys books you grew up with and still have for the grandkids are contraband.  

Yes, lead in the ink, IIRC the cut off is 1975.  It's all a load of crap, if you let the little ankle bite actually be exposed to things like dirt and pollen etc. the modern generation wouldn't be so fouled up.