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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: ericire12 on September 02, 2009, 09:00:50 AM
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Justice Stevens slows his hiring at high court
By MARK SHERMAN (AP) – 6 hours ago
WASHINGTON — Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens has hired fewer law clerks than usual, generating speculation that the leader of the court's liberals will retire next year.
If Stevens does step down, he would give President Barack Obama his second high court opening in two years. Obama chose Justice Sonia Sotomayor for the court when Justice David Souter announced his retirement in May.
Souter's failure to hire clerks was the first signal that he was contemplating leaving the court.
Stevens, 89, joined the court in 1975 and is the second-oldest justice in the court's history, after Oliver Wendell Holmes. He is the seventh-longest-serving justice, with more than 33 years and eight months on the court.
In response to a question from The Associated Press, Stevens confirmed through a court spokeswoman Tuesday that he has hired only one clerk for the term that begins in October 2010. He is among several justices who typically have hired all four clerks for the following year by now. Information about this advance hiring is not released by the court but is regularly published by some legal blogs.
Stevens did not say whether he plans to hire his full allotment of clerks or whether he will leave the court at the conclusion of the term that begins next month. Retired justices are allowed to hire one clerk.
Former law clerks said the justice has for years hired all his clerks at once, usually in June or July of the year preceding their appointment. "I'd be surprised if he hired one but not four," said Columbia University law professor Jamal Greene, who worked for Stevens in 2006 and 2007.
But as to what that might mean, Greene said, "Frankly, your guess is as good as mine."
But one former clerk, University of Oklahoma law professor Joseph Thai, said he takes it as a sign that Stevens is likely to retire soon.
"It seems to indicate that he probably won't go beyond the current term," Thai said, cautioning that Stevens has said nothing to him about leaving.
Thai said Stevens could retire with his legacy secure and with little to gain from staying on a conservative-leaning court led by Chief Justice John Roberts.
"The other thing he could do by retiring sooner is achieve a sort of secondary legacy, by allowing President Obama to choose an ideologically compatible successor," Thai said.
When it comes to retirement, justices have their own "don't ask, don't tell" policy. Other than the occasional reporter, whose question typically is ignored, no one even bothers to ask justices when they will quit. That goes for their law clerks and even other justices.
So reading between the lines becomes more important. Souter often was the last justice to hire clerks, but when he hadn't even interviewed candidates by mid-April, the prospect that he might retire loomed ever larger.
Artemus Ward, who co-wrote a book on law clerks called "Sorcerers' Apprentices," said predicting retirements by looking at changes in when justices hire clerks often is futile. But Ward acknowledged that Souter's recent example has caused him to think about Stevens' possible departure in a new light.
Still, he said other factors might cause Stevens to stay on.
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg had surgery this year for early-stage pancreatic cancer. While Ginsburg has been her usual energetic self, including frequent speaking engagements and a teaching stint in Europe this summer, long-term survival rates for pancreatic cancer are low.
Ginsburg, 76, has said she intends to serve into her early 80s, and she has hired her clerks for the court term that begins in October 2010.
Justices are reluctant to retire in bunches, mainly because they want the nine-member court as close to full strength as possible. If Ginsburg's health were to deteriorate, Stevens probably would stay, Ward said, because "protecting the institution takes precedence over personal departure decisions."
Stevens also is nearing two longevity records. When he joined the court, he replaced the longest-serving justice, William O. Douglas, and would need to serve until mid-July 2012 to top that service record. He would surpass Holmes as the oldest sitting justice if he were to remain on the court until Feb. 24, 2011.
Fordham Law School professor Abner Greene, a Stevens clerk in 1987 and 1988, said Stevens could step down next year having attained several milestones — his 90th birthday, 40 years as a judge and 35 on the Supreme Court.
But like other former employees, Greene said he has no idea what Stevens is planning.
*How great it would have been to have had someone in the White House that would have replaced the two liberal justices with conservative ones. (I am not saying that McCain would have done it) >:(
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It would have been nice if Ford had appointed a conservative to begin with!
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This was expected! Unless one of the so called conservative judges falls off a cliff, Obama can't make it any worse than it already is!
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This was expected! Unless one of the so called conservative judges falls off a cliff, Obama can't make it any worse than it already is!
Replacing two liberal justices with two more liberal justices and allowing them to reign (Pun intended) for x-amount of years to come IS making things worse for America!
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Replacing two liberal justices with two more liberal justices and allowing them to reign (Pun intended) for x-amount of years to come IS making things worse for America!
I do agree Eric.....however, nominating judges is a crap shoot in todays climate because they will literally say anything to get through the process. How many judges in the last forty years have actually maintained their views on the politcal lines drawn? You nominate a conservative that turns into a liberal and vica-versa! The wild card is Justice Thomas, who still maintains a Federalist/Constitutional opinion but his ethnicity may come into play sooner or later. I don't say that in a derogatory manner, just saying it's a possibility.
.02 and maybe some change back! ;)
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I do agree Eric.....however, nominating judges is a crap shoot in todays climate because they will literally say anything to get through the process. How many judges in the last forty years have actually maintained their views on the politcal lines drawn? You nominate a conservative that turns into a liberal and vica-versa! The wild card is Justice Thomas, who still maintains a Federalist/Constitutional opinion but his ethnicity may come into play sooner or later. I don't say that in a derogatory manner, just saying it's a possibility.
.02 and maybe some change back! ;)
After the way he got raked over the coals in his confirmation hearing I think Justice Thomas is patiently waiting for a chance to pay back the PC left for their "high tech lynching" of him.
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After the way he got raked over the coals in his confirmation hearing I think Justice Thomas is patiently waiting for a chance to pay back the PC left for their "high tech lynching" of him.
Maybe so, but as they said in the movie "Blazing Saddles", there's a new Sheriff in town! I won't repeat the rest...... ;D
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Maybe so, but as they said in the movie "Blazing Saddles", there's a new Sheriff in town! I won't repeat the rest...... ;D
I think in this case the grudge will take precedence over Black unity.
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I just hope that the conservative justices can hold out until Obama is out of office. As long as we are exchanging one liberal justice for another, I'm happy. We need to maintain the current balance and to keep the court conservative. Surely Obama cannot find another nominee as bad as Sotomayor.
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I think in this case the grudge will take precedence over Black unity.
Probably will. I know that "Yo-Mama" and Justice Thomas have entirely different views on the interpretation of our Constitution.
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I just hope that the conservative justices can hold out until Obama is out of office. As long as we are exchanging one liberal justice for another, I'm happy. We need to maintain the current balance and to keep the court conservative. Surely Obama cannot find another nominee as bad as Sotomayor.
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2 words, Jack Wienstien.
The most overturned judge in America, he has even overturned his OWN rulings.
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2 words, Jack Wienstien.
The most overturned judge in America, he has even overturned his OWN rulings.
Obama is stupid, but do you really think that he is that stu ...............................................Oh, s&^t.
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Obama is stupid, but do you really think that he is that stu ...............................................Oh, s&^t.
Honestly ? No, Wienstien is in his 70's, so there is no way he would be nominated but he has a protege there in NY, Leo Glasser, who is just as liberal.
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Well, it did say the court's leading liberal. At least no change to the votes? I hope. lol
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2010 and 2012, may change things.....
Than again, the 2nd Revolution may happen before that time anyway,....
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Some body did a blog on how Hillary might be selected. His next appointments are to be watched after his last one.
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I just hope that the conservative justices can hold out until Obama is out of office. As long as we are exchanging one liberal justice for another, I'm happy. We need to maintain the current balance and to keep the court conservative. Surely Obama cannot find another nominee as bad as Sotomayor.
Oh, please, never, ever challenge worse! There are many much worse than Soto - altho she sucks up one side and down the other. Think Bill Ayers or the wonk who just resigned. There is a huge talent pool of incompetency and liberal activism out there for bho to draw from.
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Oh, please, never, ever challenge worse! There are many much worse than Soto - altho she sucks up one side and down the other. Think Bill Ayers or the wonk who just resigned. There is a huge talent pool of incompetency and liberal activism out there for bho to draw from.
Bill Ayers can't get the job, he never qualified for the bar,I think you have to be a Federal judge now a days.
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Bill Ayers can't get the job, he never qualified for the bar,I think you have to be a Federal judge now a days.
Since when does the law matter with this bunch in DC, eh?
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Bill Ayers can't get the job, he never qualified for the bar,I think you have to be a Federal judge now a days.
Technically no, pratically yes. Appointment of the Court is an Article 2 power. He could nominate his dog. However the Senate wants someone competant (just ask Harriet Myers).
FQ13
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Was Taft a Lawyer ? I know TR appointed him. He's the only former Pres. to serve on SCOTUS.