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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: steel4u on September 03, 2009, 03:11:50 PM
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Showtime presents Lock N' Load:
http://www.sho.com/site/video/brightcove/series/title.do?bcpid=18808673001
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It's about time. It DOES look as if it may have a positive message. Wooo - Hooo!! (http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac157/johnnybravo7/smileys/jig.gif)
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Talk about Rock 'n' Roll...ugh, I mean Lock 'n' Load!
;D
Grrreat find!
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i thought it was locked n loaded with that R lee Earmy guy
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People! What the hell are you smoking? This is Showtime we're talking about - Hollyweird and looney liberal from one end to the next. They will make us look bad, mark my words. Prove me wrong.
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Somebody remind us next month. My DVR won't program out more than 30 days ahead
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People! What the hell are you smoking? This is Showtime we're talking about - Hollyweird and looney liberal from one end to the next. They will make us look bad, mark my words. Prove me wrong.
I don't know, the surge in gun purchases means there are more people who DO own guns than don't, and they spend money with advertisers. I expect it will be more like reality, some a holes, the majority ordinary folks with the focus being on surprises, like Granny trying out a 1911, or an AK. It seemed to follow several shotgun buyers to the skeet range.
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Path has a good point but I'll hope for the best.
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I hope no wierd end of the world nut jobs are on the show.
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I hope no wierd end of the world nut jobs are on the show.
Of course there will be, its TV. I'm not talking politics either, just ratings. Stupid and crazy sell (I give you Fear Factor and Jackass as exhibits A and B). If they can get a hot blonde who is both, so much the better for them.
FQ13
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I'll believe it when I see it.
And, hey, what is mainstream...I take the Outdoor Channel to be mainstream...the stuff everyone else watches is sheep food.
8)
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I watched all three trailers, and it makes me nervous! Having watched a couple Pawn Stars episodes, having seen what the media can do with sound bites, and knowing that it is hidden camera stuff much of the time scares me. If they don't twist it, it will still be wide open to interpretation by many who don't understand.
By the way, do you suppose that in that third trailer where they ask how guns make you feel there will be anyone like me? Do you think there will be anyone that really doesn't have a special feeling caused by guns? I mean, this isn't drugs, sex or alcohol. It is an object ... a tool used for a sport and defense of ourselves and our nation. That question is like handing someone a golf ball and asking "how does this make you feel?" You ever wonder where quotes like "A slight recoil" come from?
Scary concept and nervously waiting to see what comes of it.
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I'm very leery of how this could pan out but I'm optomistic. After all, SHOWTIME brought us BULL$HIT and their episode on Gun Control, which gave us a solid 22 mins supporting why the right to own guns is a fundamental right. Perhaps the network executives got a positive response from the episode and realize that there is a large gun owning audience that would tune in.
I would suspect that Lock N' Load will give us moments where we will cringe at the television but I hope those moments are overshadowed by scenes with responsible gun owners buying and using guns for reasons non-gun owners can respect. If nothing else, I think it will be eye opening for viewers to see the diversity of gun owners. As MB says, we want to make guns a "normal" part of American life. If this series can help make guns seem more normal to those on the fence about gun control, then God bless the producers.
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Lock N Load premeres Oct 21 at 8pm ET
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People! What the hell are you smoking? This is Showtime we're talking about - Hollyweird and looney liberal from one end to the next. They will make us look bad, mark my words. Prove me wrong.
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I think you will see alot of cliques in this show that dont paint gun owners in a good light.
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Showtime has one of the few shows I actually watch on their network...Dexter...
Military Channel, the outdoor channel, History, Fox News and NCIS...that's about it in terms of my tv viewing.
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Showtime has one of the few shows I actually watch on their network...Dexter...
Military Channel, the outdoor channel, History, Fox News and NCIS...that's about it in terms of my tv viewing.
Hate to tell you this, (actually I'm LMAO ;D )
Up here there was a murder recently that the Local papers are try to link to one of the killers watching that show.
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This starts today, and oh by the way is being advertised on the front page of the Huff Post ::)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/19/advertisement-watch-lock_n_326293.html
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Here is a Boston Globe article. The words "Trigger Happy" and "Paranoia" make an appearance:
http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2009/10/21/lock_n_load_looks_at_trigger_happy_america/
Here is a NY Post article. The author is raging mad about the show..... he infers that they sell a Glock 17 to a 8 year old, and is disgusted that this gun store is 10 miles away from Columbine High School..... I guess those guns might walk over there and go on another rampage all on their own ::)
http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/load_of_garbage_on_showtime_PHtHaKt3z30RsQKJ4wGCAL
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That was interesting. Really boring. Not funny. Actually, it's what I'd expect talk at a gun store would be like, especially with an annoying counter worker/salesman.
A couple of gun geek notes:
They have some cool guns there: Calico, KRISS, FN FS2000, RPK.
Why isn't Wolf or Russian ammo allowed at the range?
Recommended guns: actually closer to what I'd hope for, with no brand or even category preferred. However, I never got the feeling the host knew anything about what he was selling.
The setup: many of these reality shows invite 'ringers' onto the show. I couldn't tell if the host knew who the ringer was, but I tend to think so, just due to the way the conversation went. I've been to many stores over my lifetime, and I have yet to have an employee 'hit on me' or invite me to do something outside the store.
I'll watch the other 5 episodes, but I don't expect to be entertained or informed.
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There is no point to this show. Boring is right. "Here is a gun you want and thank you". I didn't believe that "ringer" lady shooter skit. He knew who she was. Very low on the entertaining scale. Record it. Overlord was dead on. (http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac157/johnnybravo7/smileys/Emoticon_lame.gif)
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I think it was a big let down. Not what I was expecting! >:(
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One other interesting thing I noticed: very few people by themselves. Almost everyone had a friend or family or whatever with them. At first I was thinking Straw Purchase, but there were so many groups, I wonder if this is normal?
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I rarely go by myself. It's me and HazJr or me and Crusader Rabbit or all three or deepwater if he's in town or some combination.
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The kids and I watched it. I asked them what they thought. My daughter said "No gun nuts like you Dad...". So I guess it was kinda positive. :-*
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The show plain sucked. The host was an idiot and didnt seem to anything about firearms. He was flirting with his customers and got his ass handed to him at the trap range. Second of all he's a tool, I mean look that fool he cant even make a recommendation for carry gun. Hell if i were to sell truck parts by how cool they look i would go broke. >:(
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The show plain sucked. The host was an idiot and didnt seem to anything about firearms. He was flirting with his customers and got his ass handed to him at the trap range. Second of all he's a tool, I mean look that fool he cant even make a recommendation for carry gun. Hell if i were to sell truck parts by how cool they look i would go broke. >:(
Aren't all these shows about on the same level. It's all scripted and acting.
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In the spirit of full disclosure, I have not see the show, but as for "reality TV" there is none. Everything you see is either scripted, tweaked, edited, or otherwise altered to the producer's vision.
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Regardless, the show isn't coming off as anti-gun. I'd call it pro-gun. We need more pro-gun tv.
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what i can not figur out. is it his shop? is it owed and run by his family? or is he just a dude that works there? some info says its his and some say its not. he is soposed to be the one who came up with the idea.
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Good idea, but extremely poorly execution. The producers should be embarrassed, they had no idea how to make this show (or any reality show) properly. Its not anti-gun but its anti-entertainment which sets mainstream pro-gun television back significantly. We need a hit show for gun owners with universal appeal, that pulls in the viewers and shows how financially significant we are (ratings). That my friends would be a major game changer that would lead to more pro-gun entertainment and ultimately help positively shape the public's perception of guns.
Luckily, there is something in the works... ;)
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Episode 2 tonight is worse than the 1st one..... he's an actor and a poor one at that.
"Josh T. Ryan is a professional performer with many award winning years of experience on stage and in front of the camera; acting, directing, and producing."
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I keep wanting to fast forward to the exciting parts, but then I realize there ISN'T an exciting part. I read somewhere that the series picks up after a few episodes, but I don't see how.
A question: Are the requirements for a salesman selling a lot (of guns) different than the traits that make a good TV show salesman? That is, might Josh be a good salesman, but a poor TV host? Or, might he be a good TV host, but can't sell guns well? Or, might he be poor at both? I can't remember the last person at a retail store who asked me my name, unless it was for some paperwork.
I too have been thinking what I would do differently to make this show better. I would try to do more with each story. I would have some kind of followup, 'X weeks later' sort of thing. On the other hand, the average gun (or any retail) transaction is boring. Customer comes in, shops, buys something, leaves. Would the same series work better set in a (used) car dealer?
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The show plain suck arse. I cant believe the stupid shit i see on that show. I will no loger watch it after this, cant see my self supporting this scripted pile of crap. >:( >:( >:(