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Title: Reloading oopsy
Post by: alfsauve on September 06, 2009, 08:18:59 PM
Cycle the bolt,
Hunker down behind the scope,
Adjust the bags,
Get on target,
Breathe,
Breathe,
Breathe,
Blink,
1/2 of breath
trigger,
trigger,
trigger,
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click
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wait,
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wait,
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wait,
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Remove round
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oops
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Title: Re: Reloading oopsy
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 06, 2009, 09:00:56 PM
 Forgot something ?
Things like that will make you easier to beat in the Gunman 1911 memorial match.  ;D
Title: Re: Reloading oopsy
Post by: Badgersmilk on September 06, 2009, 10:45:14 PM
Remember the old cartoons where they'd light the powder trail of the guy running away with a bomb?   ;D
Title: Re: Reloading oopsy
Post by: alfack on September 06, 2009, 11:43:57 PM
Ha. Rather have that, than one with a primer, but w/o powder. At least you didn't end up with a slug stuck in the barrel :)
Title: Re: Reloading oopsy
Post by: CJS3 on September 07, 2009, 12:29:19 AM
Yeah. Been there, done that. :-[
Title: Re: Reloading oopsy
Post by: Rob10ring on September 07, 2009, 12:47:48 AM
Being human is pretty funny! Good telling of the event. ;D
Title: Re: Reloading oopsy
Post by: alfsauve on September 07, 2009, 07:04:00 AM
Yes, I'd rather have a round with no primer as opposed to no powder.

While I've reloaded pistol rounds for almost 40 years now, I've only gotten into rifle rounds in the last 2 years.  The work flow is different.   I've always primed as a totally separate step using a hand primer.  It allowed a close inspection of each cast as I was priming.   And forgetting the primer has never happened with pistol rounds because, I always put the primed cases in the loading block face DOWN.  a)  I could inspect the primers and b) it might be a day or week or month before I had time to finish the reloading.    Pistol rounds are easy to flip over from one loading block to the next.  (It's why I love my 60round Flambeau blocks)

But Rifle rounds aren't as easy to flip.  Hence I cut out a step.  And now, obviously, I somehow skipped one round, even though I use two blocks and move the rounds from one to the other as I prime them.

I have unanswered questions, which I didn't think about until I got home.  
Did I forget the primer OR did the primer fall out?
Why didn't I notice the powder falling out the primer hole (H335 is small enough to pour out the hole)
What if it was a loose primer and fell out?
  If so, where is the primer now?  I didn't see it in the box or on the bench.

So moral is:   Double check things.   Powder?  Check.  I said Powder?  Double check!

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TomBogan said:  Things like that will make you easier to beat in the Gunman 1911 memorial match.

So, Tom, have you checked out my 100yds standing target?

Title: Re: Reloading oopsy
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 07, 2009, 07:45:23 AM
 That was STANDING ?
Like I was saying, you're going to be real hard to beat  ;D
( I don't even OWN a rifle right now, so you will be impossible to beat  ;D  )

On a serious note, I use a Lee hand primer on ALL my ammo and took the priming tool off my press completely, I don't know how that would work out with a progressive set up but it kept me out of trouble with my single stage.
Title: Re: Reloading oopsy
Post by: Grizzle_Bear on September 07, 2009, 09:58:15 AM
I may have beat that.....

Somehow I managed to ge a primer in upside down.  Pulled the trigger and got a "POP", and stood there for a full minute waiting to see if anything happened.

GB
Title: Re: Reloading oopsy
Post by: alfsauve on September 07, 2009, 03:10:18 PM
That was STANDING ?
Like I was saying, you're going to be real hard to beat  ;D
( I don't even OWN a rifle right now, so you will be impossible to beat  ;D  )

On a serious note, I use a Lee hand primer on ALL my ammo and took the priming tool off my press completely, I don't know how that would work out with a progressive set up but it kept me out of trouble with my single stage.

You looked at the wrong target.  Check the one without any holes.  That's the one I shot standing.

My first reloading was without the aide of carbide dies.  I just couldn't see priming in the middle of that oily mess.  So priming was always a very separate step done with either a Lee or RCBS hand tool.    Still is even with a turret press and with carbide dies.  And of course with rifle cartridges, I'm back to lubricating each round, so again, I don't want to prime an oily case.    I just have to be more careful with inspection.   And yes, I've done the backwards primer once too.

Title: Re: Reloading oopsy
Post by: long762range on September 07, 2009, 10:55:31 PM
Friday I was preparing for a single stack match.  I had not shot the 1911 for a few months so I took it to the range with 6 magazines I had already loaded.  First magazine I fired 5 rounds then pop!  The slide did not cycle.  The range master came over and said "You switch to 22".  I was holding the pistol down range in case of a slow cook off.  After a couple of minutes I dropped the magazine and cleared the slide.  The bullet was peeking out from the end of the barrel.  I hate that.
Title: Re: Reloading oopsy
Post by: Woody on September 08, 2009, 04:26:50 PM
I was reloading a .308 the other night and  I kept finding gun powder everywhere, all over the press,  the table, ah no primer! No primers are better than an undetected squib. Wake up call for all.
Inspect all cases before verifyng all powder loads.
Title: Re: Reloading oopsy
Post by: Walter45Auto on September 09, 2009, 12:33:48 AM
I guess If ya gotta botch a batch of reloads, leaving the primer out is the only safe way to do it...... ;) ;D