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Title: Sotomayor NOT all bad ?
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 09, 2009, 05:12:00 PM
Posted by Ilya Somin:
Supreme Court to Hear Oral Argument on Alvarez v. Smith - A Key Property Rights Case:
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_09_06-2009_09_12.shtml#1252526425


   This fall, the Supreme Court will hear oral arguments in Alvarez v.
   Smith, an important property rights case that[1] I blogged about in
   February. For reasons, I discussed in that post, the Supreme Court
   must rule for the property owners in Alvarez if it is to preserve even
   minimal protection for property rights under the Due Process Clause of
   the Fourteenth Amendment.

   Radley Balko, a prominent writer on criminal justice issues, has [2]an
   excellent column discussing the case:

     This fall, the U.S. Supreme Court will hear oral arguments in
     Alvarez v. Smith, a challenge to the state of Illinois' Drug Asset
     Forfeiture Procedure Act (DAFPA). (Disclosure: the Reason
     Foundation, publisher of Reason.com, joined in an amicus brief in
     the case.) The six petitioners in Alvarez each had property seized
     by police who suspected the property had been involved in a drug
     crime. Three had their cars seized, three had cash taken. None of
     the six were served with a warrant, none of the six were charged
     with the crime. All perfectly legal, at least until now.

     Under DAFPA, incredibly, the government can delay for up to 187
     days before an aggrieved property owner can get even a preliminary
     hearing on warrantless seizures of less than $20,000. The three car
     owners, for example, had to go without their cars for more than a
     year....

     Under the 14th Amendment's Due Process clause, a state may not
     "deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due
     process of law." If Illinois' forfeiture law isn't a violation of
     the property portion of the Due Process clause, it's hard to fathom
     what would be.

   In an opinion written by Judge Richard Posner, the Seventh Circuit
   struck down the Illinois law, ruling that the property owners were
   entitled to at least a minimal hearing before the government could
   take their cars and hold them for months at a time. This is the bare
   minimum of protection required by the Due Process Clause. As Radley
   explains, such asset forfeitures are an increasingly common part of
   the War on Drugs, and often allow authorities to hold the property of
   people who haven't been convicted of any crime. In this case, the six
   car owners in question weren't even charged with any offenses.

   Unfortunately, it seems likely that the Supreme Court could reverse
   the Seventh Circuit and uphold the Illinois law. As a general rule,
   the Court usually hears cases only when there is a split between the
   courts of appeals (which is not true here), or when it wants to
   reverse the lower court decision. If the Court denies property owners
   even minimal protection under the Due Process Clause, it would further
   reinforce [3]the second-class status of constitutional property rights
   in current jurisprudence. Needless to say, most of the people
   victimized by such asset forfeitures tend to be poor and politically
   weak, and thus unlikely to have the political clout necessary to force
   state legislatures to reform their policies.

   However, there is a small ray of hope: This is one of the rare issues
   where newly confirmed Justice Sonia Sotomayor is a strong supporter of
   property rights. In [4]Krimstock v. Kelly, a 2002 opinion she authored
   while a Second Circuit judge, Sotomayor invalidated down a New York
   City law very similar to the Illinois statute at issue in Alvarez. I
   discussed Krimstock in more detail in [5]this June post, and in [6]my
   Senate Judiciary Committee testimony on Sotomayor's record on property
   rights. Judge Posner's Seventh Circuit opinion in Alvarez actually
   cites Krimstock as a precedent supporting his decision. Hopefully,
   Justice Sotomayor will stick to her guns and provide a much-needed
   vote for property rights in this case.

References

   1. http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_02_22-2009_02_28.shtml#1235552057
   2. http://reason.com/news/show/135911.html
   3. http://ssrn.com/abstract=1247854
   4. http://documents.nytimes.com/selected-cases-of-judge-sonia-sotomayor#p=369
   5. http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_05_24-2009_05_30.shtml#1243370699
   6. http://www.law.gmu.edu/assets/files/news/2009/Somin_TestimonySotomayor.pdf
Title: Re: Sotomayor NOT all bad ?
Post by: Pathfinder on September 09, 2009, 05:34:54 PM
Well, even a broken clock can be right once in a while.
Title: Re: Sotomayor NOT all bad ?
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 09, 2009, 06:10:40 PM
  Twice a day  ;D
Title: Re: Sotomayor NOT all bad ?
Post by: Pathfinder on September 09, 2009, 06:26:19 PM
  Twice a day  ;D

Depends how it's broken. If it runs backwards or is just running erratically (like a bunch of the SCOTUS), then maybe once a day.  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Sotomayor NOT all bad ?
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 09, 2009, 07:03:35 PM
Apparently she may be good on Campaign Finance reform as well.

Posted by Eugene Volokh:
Rick Hasen (Election Law Blog) on the *Citizens United* Corporate Free Speech Rights Case:
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_09_06-2009_09_12.shtml#1252537270


   His live-blogging of the audio release is [1]here, and his predictions
   are [2]here:

     As I noted, I cannot with confidence make predictions about the
     outcome of the Citizens United case based on oral argument
     questions, given the recent experience in NAMUDNO in which CJ
     Roberts and Justice Kennedy seemed sure votes to overturn section 5
     of the Voting Rights Act but did not. But there was absolutely
     nothing in the Citizens United oral argument questions of the two
     likely "swing justices" in this case to give any comfort to those
     who believe that Congress should have the power to limit corporate
     spending in candidate elections.

   Rick is one of the top election law scholars in the country, and is
   generally a supporter of restrictions on corporate speech about
   candidates, so he isn't just hearing what he hopes to hear. Rick also
   reports that "Justice Sotomayor asked the questions I would have
   asked" -- high praise from any law professor! -- "and seems likely to
   be a very strong replacement for Justice Souter on campaign finance
   issue."

References

   1. http://electionlawblog.org/archives/014400.html
   2. http://electionlawblog.org/archives/014401.html
Title: Re: Sotomayor NOT all bad ?
Post by: C.O.T.U.S. on September 10, 2009, 10:00:43 PM
Sifting through a pile of excrement to find the kernel of corn does nothing more than leave you with crap on your hands.  Hell even Obama might be right on something if we dig far enough.  Any volunteers ::)


I'll take one step back from the line thank-you.
Title: Re: Sotomayor NOT all bad ?
Post by: PegLeg45 on September 10, 2009, 11:27:39 PM
Sifting through a pile of excrement to find the kernel of corn does nothing more than leave you with crap on your hands.  Hell even Obama might be right on something if we dig far enough.  Any volunteers ::)


I'll take one step back from the line thank-you.

No corn for me, thank you very much.   
Title: Re: Sotomayor NOT all bad ?
Post by: Johnny Bravo on September 11, 2009, 12:05:52 PM
No corn for me, thank you very much.   

 I'm on a diet.