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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Hazcat on September 10, 2009, 08:48:37 AM
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By ALEX ISENSTADT | 9/9/09 4:15 PM EDT
Updated: 9/9/09 5:58 PM EDT
Democrats succeeded Wednesday in pushing forward the nomination of Cass Sunstein, the controversial Harvard University law professor who has been tapped by President Obama to head the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs.
In a 63-35 vote Wednesday evening, the Senate voted to end the debate on Sunstein’s nomination, moving Sunstein one step closer to a full vote in the Senate.
Sunstein has been tapped for one of the more wonky jobs in the White House – reviewing the effectiveness of federal regulations. But his nomination has caught fire with conservatives, led by Fox News host Glenn Beck, who have highlighted some of his more liberal positions on animal rights and end of life care. Sunstein has been described by Republicans as one of the many Obama “czars,” but because he requires Senate confirmation, he doesn’t really fit the mold of a “czar” who wield enormous powers with little oversight.
Conservatives are particularly incensed over statements Sunstein has made advocating for greater regulation of hunting rights.
While Republicans will have little ability to stop Sunstein’s nomination, conservatives are feeling energized after their successful push for the resignation of White House green jobs adviser Van Jones, who stepped down from his post this weekend after it was revealed that he had dabbled with 9/11 conspiracy groups and had made inflammatory statements about Republicans.
The heated debate over Sunstein began on the Senate floor just hours before President Obama sets foot in the Capitol to deliver a nationally televised address on health care to Congress.
On his Twitter account Tuesday, Beck blasted Democrats for “rushing” Sunstein’s vote through the Senate.
“Dems likely to vote on Sunstein's nomination TOMORROW; they are afraid of WatchDogs; every day increases their risk of losing this vote,” Beck wrote.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/26930.html#ixzz0Qi9IPTWs
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Watch every opening in the backside of your sitter :o
Seeing as most Americans have fallen into the trap of believing that the Second Amendment is all about our hunting tradition, this is a great sneek attack in the making.
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Sunstein is another hack lobbyist in the administration that SWORE there would be NO lobbyists.
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Sunstein is another hack lobbyist in the administration that SWORE there would be NO lobbyists.
Actually, a hack political scientist/law prof. I had to read/endure a couple of his articles in school.
As far as a conspiracy to to hurt hunting rights, I just don't see it. Picture the following conversation:
Rahm,
Godda..., er I mean yes boss?
Find me an issue we care nothing about, but yet one that will make us lots of enemies in swing states. Pursue it aggressively.
Why the Fu.. er frak would we do that boss?
Because Cass said so.
Sure Boss.
Later, in an office
Rahm:
I want Sunstein dead! I want his family dead! I want his f....k goldfish dead, you here me Tony? ;D ::)
FQ13
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cass_Sunstein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cass_Sunstein)
Not my favorite place to get everything from, but does give a lot and gets the research going.
Read through his views on internet, taxation, animal rights ("every resonable person"), etc. If that don't make your blood boil I get more info from other sources for you.
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This guy is more then just anti-hunting.... he is as big of a threat to the republic as bHo himself..... Glenn Beck covered him last night, and it was frightening..... They are also saying that he is first in line for bHo's next Supreme Court appointment.
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This guy is more then just anti-hunting.... he is as big of a threat to the republic as bHo himself..... Glenn Beck covered him last night, and it was frightening..... They are also saying that he is first in line for bHo's next Supreme Court appointment.
ThAn..... ;D
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ThAn..... ;D
Hang it in your ass!
(http://members.iinet.net.au/~robertcairns/Pics/markiii/P1000062.jpg)
;D
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Hang it in your ass!
(http://members.iinet.net.au/~robertcairns/Pics/markiii/P1000062.jpg)
;D
seen that one coming. ;D
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seen that one coming. ;D
Kitty should have kept his hands where I can see them!
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This guy is more then just anti-hunting.... he is as big of a threat to the republic as bHo himself..... Glenn Beck covered him last night, and it was frightening..... They are also saying that he is first in line for bHo's next Supreme Court appointment.
He's too old for the Court. The guy has to be sixty. I doubt BO, or any president would appoint anyone they couldn't count on getting 25 years out of. He is a yahoo though, and I can tell you from bitter experience that reading one of his articles is the next best thing to getting hit in the head with a rubber mallet for sleep inducing effect.
FQ13
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Kitty should have kept his hands where I can see them!
YOU'RE the one that wouldn't pass out the comment award to T-bug based on spelling and English. ;)
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YOU'RE the one that wouldn't pass out the comment award to T-bug based on spelling and English. ;)
All tipoes and misspelings are copi-righted. Pleeze do not reuse without ritten persimmons
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YOU'RE the one that wouldn't pass out the comment award to T-bug based on spelling and English. ;)
Or Ratcatcher. ::)
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Mean while.... back at the ranch.....
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/beck_sunstein_obama_czar/2009/09/09/258152.html
Glenn Beck: Sunstein 'Most Dangerous' Czar
Wednesday, September 9, 2009 6:38 PM
By: Jim Meyers Article Font Size
Conservative talker Glenn Beck says Cass Sunstein, who is awaiting Senate confirmation as President Obama's new Regulatory Czar, "is probably the most dangerous czar out there."
Sunstein, a Harvard Law School professor and longtime friend of Obama, would head the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, and oversee all governmental regulations.
Beck blasted Sunstein on the air Wednesday and outlined several of his positions:
# "Cass Sunstein is a guy who is against the Second Amendment, who believes that the purpose of the Second Amendment is not an individual right but a federal right. He says almost all gun control legislation is constitutionally fine."
# "He also believes that we ought to ban hunting. He says a willingness to subject animals to suffering will be seen as a form of barbarity, morally akin to slavery and the mass extermination of human beings. He believes that animals should have a right, should be able to bring suit, because they are not property. . .
"This is a guy who thinks that rats should be able to have attorneys. If you have rats in your basement, you are not to poison rats. You can't make this stuff up."
# "On free speech, Cass Sunstein says a system of limitless individual choices with respect to communications is not necessarily in the interest of citizenship and self-government."
Beck said Sunstein "would like to control the Internet" and espouses "a legislative effort to regulate broadcasting in the interest of Democratic principles. Wow, that's the words that [Venezuelan President Hugo] Chavez always used.
# "On taxes, Sunstein scolds readers like small-minded selfish children for opposing the size, scope, expansion, and skyrocketing expense of the government."
Beck said Democrats need 60 votes to confirm Sunstein but "they cannot get 60 votes with Ted Kennedy gone. That means every single Republican must stand against Cass Sunstein, and most of these weasels in Washington haven't done their homework enough to know who this guy is."
Beck told listeners: "It is time to get everyone you know to call Capitol Hill" and voice opposition to Sunstein. "Call the Senate," because Sunstein is "the most dangerous guy out there right now."
© 2009 Newsmax. All rights reserved.
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All tipoes and misspelings are copi-righted. Pleeze do not reuse without ritten persimmons
Plagiarist! Is your name really Biden?
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What's wrong with "the mass extermination of human beings." ?
I can think of over 50 million that need to be treated like roaches, and that's just in THIS country.
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What's wrong with "the mass extermination of human beings." ?
I can think of over 50 million that need to be treated like roaches, and that's just in THIS country.
The problem is in who gets to pick the 50 milllion.
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The problem is in who gets to pick the 50 milllion.
I go with the cat ... We start with everyone that improperly uses the term "clip" and go from there ;D
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I go with the cat ... We start with everyone that improperly uses the term "clip" and go from there ;D
YEP!, then lawyers, then glock lovers then....;)
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The problem is in who gets to pick the 50 milllion.
Simple, all the ones who voted for BO, there is no picking, they CHOSE.
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Judge Napolitano on Fox News, mentioned he is farther left than Ruth Ginsberg, if nominated to the SCOTUS.
He's written many books, here's a good one:
The Second Bill of Rights: Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Unfinished Revolution and Why We Need It More Than Ever (Basic Books 2006) (paperback edition).
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2008/10/021903.php
Tom Palmer usefully explicated the political thought underlying Sunstein's argument in his review of the book. By contrast with the doctrine of rights conferred by God and nature set forth in the Declaration of Independence, Sunstein holds:
You owe your life -- and everything else -- to the sovereign. The rights of subjects are not natural rights, but merely grants from the sovereign. There is no right even to complain about the actions of the sovereign, except insofar as the sovereign allows the subject to complain. These are the principles of unlimited, arbitrary, and absolute power, the principles of such rulers as Louis XIV. Intellectuals have assiduously promoted them; think of Jean Bodin and Thomas Hobbes.
Thus Palmer deems Sunstein a "new intellectual champion of absolutism" who advances "the radical notion that all rights -- including rights usually held to be 'against' the state, such as the right to freedom of speech and the right not to be arbitrarily imprisoned or tortured -- are grants from the state."
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He has views that would make him unworthy of a blindfold, and as an academic elitist, and now confirmed to a position of power,
thanks to BHO, this country is declining faster and faster into the abyss..
He is far more dangerous to this country, than just hunting regs....
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" You owe your life -- and everything else -- to the sovereign. The rights of subjects are not natural rights, but merely grants from the sovereign. There is no right even to complain about the actions of the sovereign, except insofar as the sovereign allows the subject to complain."
This is true, but we do not have a "Sovereign, and we are not SUBJECTS. This is the inherent difference between "Subjects" and Citzens.
Not sure what this means but ;
Posted by Ilya Somin:
Cass Sunstein Confirmed:
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2009_09_06-2009_09_12.shtml#1252619732
Cass Sunstein's nomination to be head of the Office of Information and
Regulatory Affairs has been [1]approved by the Senate in a 57-40 vote.
Sunstein is one of the nation's leading scholars on regulatory issues,
and there is no question that he is well-qualified for the job. At the
same time, I also think that Sunstein is wrong about a great many
important issues, especially in the field of constitutional law.
That said, I believe that the conservative opponents of Sunstein's
confirmation are missing the fact that most of his really
controversial views have little connection to the office he was
nominated for. On the regulatory issues covered by OIRA, Sunstein is
actually less statist and relatively more sympathetic to free market
approaches than are most other liberal Democrats. For example, in his
book [2]Nudge, Sunstein urges policies that are less coercive and
paternalistic than those promoted by the existing regulatory state.
Sunstein also is aware of the serious public choice problems with
regulation, which he has written about in several publications.
Obviously, he is still far more supportive of regulation than I am.
But the relevant comparison from a libertarian point of view is that
between Sunstein and anyone else likely to be appointed to the same
position by Obama.