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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Jackel on September 13, 2009, 08:04:26 PM
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http://abcnews.go.com/International/Story?id=5301284&page=1 (http://abcnews.go.com/International/Story?id=5301284&page=1)
saw a commercial on the history channel about a upcoming show on this. i personally thought it was all bs but was wondering what you guys thought about it.
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Right now I think its......... BS,
but ask me again in 2013 as I may have changed my opinion by then.
George Noory on Coast to Coast AM has been discussing it for the last few years and has had several guests usually supporting the fact that everything may end in 2012, but then again he has quests on that have been abducted by aliens and others that have seen Big Foot.
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/
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If it does happen, it'll be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Every one wants to be of the last humans. Stupid, stupid humans. ;D
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Jackel its human nature. In uncertain times, particularly those of major social/economic upheaval that cause people to question their identity and place in the word, appolapytic cults spring up. It happened in the first millenium, during the Wars of Religion, during the Second Industrial Revolution and around the year Y2K. Its why Revelation is in vogue now with the Left Behind series and the like. Not withstanding the fact that Revelation is the most useless book in the Bible, by which I mean we will all die and face judgement , next Wednesday or twenty years from now who cares? The bottom line is that it lets people see a plan, find order out of chaos and substitute certainty for faith. I would say the Mayan Calender and Nostradamus are the same things, only secular. People, like children, crave stability, rules and order. When stuff becomes uncertain, they tend to let their egos project their own sitution, "its the end of things as I know them", becomes "its the end of all things". The millenarian midset is more a barometer of the popular psyche than anything else. The worse things get, the more you want to invest in tin foil futures.
FQ13 who does belive in the Bible, but doesn't care much about the end times, because we've been living in them since Adam
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....Its why Revalations is in vogue now with the Left Behind series and the like.............
Just to pick a nit...... The book is titled "Revelation".....singular, not plural. An important theological point signifying that there is one single plan revealed not several.
Entirely too much time wasted trying to predict the end time.
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Just to pick a nit...... The book is titled "Revelation".....singular, not plural. An important theological point signifying that there is one single plan revealed not several.
Entirely too much time wasted trying to predict the end time.
Mea Culpa on the spelling again. But I agree with your main point. Who cares when the end happens? What are you going to do about it? The Rapture, an asteroid, the sun going nova, global warming, an ice age, a zombie invasion what difference does it make? People need to get a hobby.
FQ13
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Big snip
People need to get a hobby.
FQ13
Good idea, I think I'll take up the shooting sports... ;D ;D
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We are vain creatures and like to think that we actually matter.
You know - like the whole man-made global warming thing.
;D
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We are vain creatures and like to think that we actually matter.
You know - like the whole man-made global warming thing.
;D
I am but a single grain of sand in the hourglass of time.
8) 8) 8) 8)
;D
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Upheaval in 2012, fact or fiction ?
Fact is, it doesn't matter. There are enough run of the mill disasters occurring in the course of normal life, storms, floods, earthquakes, forest fires, etc. to make the need for preparedness and self sufficiency blindingly obvious.
Civilization does not have to end to justify being prepared, it just needs to take a vacation in YOUR area, say during hurricane season.
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I am but a single grain of sand in the hourglass of time.
8) 8) 8) 8)
;D
I thought you were going to go all "Days of Our Lives" on us. :-X
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I thought you were going to go all "Days of Our Lives" on us. :-X
The fact that you would bring that up worries me. ;D
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The fact that you would bring that up worries me. ;D
I had that same thought.........
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The fact that you would bring that up worries me. ;D
I had that same thought.........
I do have a mother. ;)
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2012...Mayan calandar, Notstradamnus, hocus pocus.....seems like every decade or so Nostradamnus had a plan for the end of the world...guess I'll sleep through this one too.
Sunspots are actually at historic lows...at least lows for the last 100 years or so. A big flare occurs every now and then...it also has to do with direction (aim) whether a big flare hits us and whacks us or not...
We probably will enter a permanent global oil shortage in 5 years or so, just because we will.
I'm more concerned about an EMP attack or, even more likely in the near term, government health care which will turn out to be a cruel oxymoron foisted upon us by fascist morons.
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2012...Mayan calandar, Notstradamnus, hocus pocus.....seems like every decade or so Nostradamnus had a plan for the end of the world...guess I'll sleep through this one too.
Sunspots are actually at historic lows...at least lows for the last 100 years or so. A big flare occurs every now and then...it also has to do with direction (aim) whether a big flare hits us and whacks us or not...
We probably will enter a permanent global oil shortage in 5 years or so, just because we will.
I'm more concerned about an EMP attack or, even more likely in the near term, government health care which will turn out to be a cruel oxymoron foisted upon us by fascist morons.
Yep....if one makes enough predictions, sooner or later one's bound to come true.
The biggest threats are on the nation's front porch.
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.....The biggest threats are on the nation's front porch.
That would be the porch at 1600 Penn. Ave., right?
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That would be the porch at 1600 Penn. Ave., right?
Yes....and it's a big-assed porch too.
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No "porch monkey" jokes please. FQ will get mad.
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Supposedly several ancient cultures stopped counting time in their calendar systems around Dec. 21, 2012. Specifically the Maya's "Long Count" calendar marks the end of a 5,126-year era.
Others say that part of the 2012 mystique stems from the stars. On the winter solstice in 2012, the sun will be aligned with the center of the Milky Way for the first time in about 26,000 years. This means that "whatever energy typically streams to Earth from the center of the Milky Way will indeed be disrupted on 12/21/12 at 11:11 p.m. Universal Time.
If you beleive this, I own a bridge and I would be willing to part with it...
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Yes....and it's a big-assed porch too.
With a swing set in the back, no less. What was the model?
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With a swing set in the back, no less. What was the model?
Installed under an oak tree just 30 feet from the Oval Office, the American-made, earth-friendly playground is from Rainbow Play Systems (rainbowplay.com), a company based in Brookings, S.D. The Rainbow Castle has been "tricked out with lots of bells and whistles," says owner Greg Foster, including swings, a climbing wall, a rope ladder, a slide, monkey bars and a "penthouse with a double bubble." (Translation: an upper-level fort with two Plexiglas windows that are deep enough to climb inside.)
http://www.azcentral.com/style/hfe/decor/articles/2009/03/19/20090319whitehouseswing.html
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Rastus is only partly right, while we are at the LOW point of the sunspot cycle NOW, (possibly just past it) Sun spot activity is now on an upsurge and is predicted to peak about the middle of 2012 with activity predicted to be somewhat less than the 2000 peak.
http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/SunspotCycle.shtml
I would think that this coupled with the explosive increase in computerization and wireless communications would be more hazardous to our society than anything else. Our society, as proven by Hurricane Katrina and it's aftermath, refuses to accord nature the respect deserved by it's shear power, very few precautions are taken to protect against acts of nature, which have the power of planetary forces behind them. People are STILL living in the flood plains in New Orleans, it is only in the last few decades that people have included "Earth quaking" technology into building designs, People still build large structures with flat roofs in the snow belt, and do nothing to protect buildings in other flood prone areas.
Protecting against something that may never happen is stupid if you fail to protect against things that happen every year or so, like wild fires in Ca. I have very little sympathy for the people who lost their homes, every single year they have wild fires, is it REALLY that hard to figure out that you need to keep a fire break around your property ?
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Installed under an oak tree just 30 feet from the Oval Office, the American-made, earth-friendly playground is from Rainbow Play Systems (rainbowplay.com), a company based in Brookings, S.D. The Rainbow Castle has been "tricked out with lots of bells and whistles," says owner Greg Foster, including swings, a climbing wall, a rope ladder, a slide, monkey bars and a "penthouse with a double bubble." (Translation: an upper-level fort with two Plexiglas windows that are deep enough to climb inside.)
http://www.azcentral.com/style/hfe/decor/articles/2009/03/19/20090319whitehouseswing.html
Aren't his daughters in their TEENS ?
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Aren't his daughters in their TEENS ?
10 and 7........I think.......but big for their ages.