“I have concerns about some of the language that is being used because I saw … I saw this myself in the late '70s in San Francisco,” Pelosi said, choking up and with tears forming in her eyes. “This kind of rhetoric is just, is really frightening and it created a climate in which we, violence took place and … I wish that we would all, again, curb our enthusiasm in some of the statements that are made.”
It would be racially motivated when we take our country back either....
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: Pathfinder on September 17, 2009, 04:45:20 PM
We've already seen political violence, always seems to come from the gummint or its minions (Black Panthers, SEIU, etc.).
These people (Pelosi et al.) are nothing short of despicable pond scum, lower than that, lower than whale poop. If they keep on with this crap, it might be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Nancy, can you say Mussolini? I thought you could! >:(
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: fightingquaker13 on September 17, 2009, 04:51:57 PM
“I have concerns about some of the language that is being used because I saw … I saw this myself in the late '70s in San Francisco,” Pelosi said, choking up and with tears forming in her eyes. “This kind of rhetoric is just, is really frightening and it created a climate in which we, violence took place and … I wish that we would all, again, curb our enthusiasm in some of the statements that are made.”
It would be racially motivated when we take our country back either....
Right! As a good libertarian, when a poltician (Cheney or Pelosi, same animal as far as I'm concerned) starts talking about taking responsibility for freedom of speech and how we need to balance freedom of speech with safety (presumably for her) its time to start buying ammo. Its cheaper than a lawyer and more effective. And if that reminds you of the "late seventies" good! I just hope you are smart enough to realize I want to remind you of the late seventeen seventies when we knew how to balance "safety and freedom"! I'll be sending you a Gadsen flag, but I don't think you'd get it. FQ13
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: mudman on September 17, 2009, 05:24:56 PM
IT means they are going to step up the violence always look for the left to acuse you of what they are up to first.
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: graywolf on September 18, 2009, 06:12:22 AM
Actually, Miz Pelosi is concerned that the good voters of this country are going to take away her Speaker's gavel in November. Then she'll just be a regular ole Representative. And, the Fates be tempted, maybe the voters of CA will wake up and vote her out of office period!
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 18, 2009, 10:40:31 AM
FTA; Pelosi said it reminded her of her San Francisco hometown in 1978, when a disgruntled member of the city Board of Supervisors assassinated Mayor George Moscone and openly gay Supervisor Harvey Milk.
What San Fran Nan neglects to mention is that the shooter in that case, which by the way gave her the opportunity to run for Mayor herself, was also gay, and what he was disgruntled about was a rejection by one of the victims. It is also interesting to note that the shooter was convicted of a lesser charge having based his defense on an "overdose" of Twinkies.
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: Woody on September 18, 2009, 11:50:54 AM
When the people fear the govt there is tyranny. When the govt fears the people there is freedom. She should be very scared.
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: Ichiban on September 18, 2009, 12:08:11 PM
Soooooo, is this just a precursor? You know, it's caused by that evil hate speech on talk radio and FOX so we should pass a "hate speech" law like our good friends and allies, the French?
I think it would be a very hard sell, but I don't put it past her/them to try it while they have control.
Or do I need an extra layer of tinfoil? :o
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: mudman on September 18, 2009, 04:54:55 PM
Soooooo, is this just a precursor? You know, it's caused by that evil hate speech on talk radio and FOX so we should pass a "hate speech" law like our good friends and allies, the French?
I think it would be a very hard sell, but I don't put it past her/them to try it while they have control.
Or do I need an extra layer of tinfoil? :o
YEP PASS THE AMMO ITS COMEING
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: fightingquaker13 on September 18, 2009, 05:01:33 PM
Dude The only thing coming is the election of 2010. Leave the ammo at home and remember 1994. Just ask where the current version of Newt is. Because the country needs him. FQ13
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 18, 2009, 06:56:48 PM
To paraphrase a famous person I would rather hang 100 innocent politicians than let 1 guilty one go free. Not that your likely to FIND 10 honest politicians, let alone 100.
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: alfsauve on September 18, 2009, 07:01:40 PM
Soooooo, is this just a precursor? You know, it's caused by that evil hate speech on talk radio and FOX so we should pass a "hate speech" law like our good friends and allies, the French?
Actually what she's stumping far is the "fairness doctrine", not just for broadcast radio and TV BUT for cable and satellite, which isn't as controlled as broadcast stations. Also, they're plans afoot to extend "fairness" to the Internet as well
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: Ichiban on September 18, 2009, 07:28:09 PM
So, is this "fairness" anything like the "bipartisanship" and "transparency" the we've been seeing the last eight months?
Yeah, I thought so. :(
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: Pathfinder on September 18, 2009, 07:35:42 PM
To paraphrase a famous person I would rather hang 100 innocent politicians than let 1 guilty one go free. Not that your likely to FIND 10 honest politicians, let alone 100.
I seem to recall Lot having a similar problem - in Sodom!
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: david86440 on September 18, 2009, 09:00:37 PM
I feel bad that I'm not in her district and won't be able to vote for her. :'(
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: Rastus on September 20, 2009, 04:36:45 AM
Y'all don't actually think the libs would send a giant turd-ball rolling downhill, and then when the sh!t hits the fan, blame it on someone else do you?
Heaven forbid.
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: alfsauve on September 21, 2009, 06:48:28 AM
IT means they are going to step up the violence always look for the left to acuse you of what they are up to first.
Yep. It's called "projection". It's what they're thinking about doing, so they assume everyone else is also. Just like Jimmy Carter is projecting his racism when he assumes anyone against Obama's policies is racist.
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: Bidah on September 21, 2009, 11:24:33 AM
With all the rhetoric flying about from the .gov and other socialists, I expect that something big will happen, domestic or foreign based, to take more control and turn the debate. They have done it before, and they will do it again.
-Bidah
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: rich642z on September 23, 2009, 06:41:36 PM
Let me see,,,,,,, fairnes means,when I eat a bowl of a monthold chilli/susi mix,I go to congress floor, walk in while Pelosi is speaking,and let a silent but deadly one go. Is that what makes crocidile tears for her[pelosi]???????? rich642z
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 23, 2009, 08:03:33 PM
Let me see,,,,,,, fairnes means,when I eat a bowl of a monthold chilli/susi mix,I go to congress floor, walk in while Pelosi is speaking,and let a silent but deadly one go. Is that what makes crocidile tears for her[pelosi]???????? rich642z
I don't know, but I'd give a weeks unemployment to watch ;D
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: twyacht on September 23, 2009, 08:59:19 PM
I wonder how a Botox face holds up against a tar and feathering,....... ::)
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: PegLeg45 on September 23, 2009, 09:43:58 PM
MANCHESTER, Ky. – When Bill Sparkman told retired trooper Gilbert Acciardo that he was going door-to-door collecting census data in rural Kentucky, the former police officer drew on years of experience for a warning: "Be careful."
The 51-year-old Sparkman was found this month hanged from a tree near a cemetery with the word "fed" scrawled on his chest, a law enforcement official said Wednesday, and the FBI is investigating whether he was a victim of anti-government sentiment.
The law enforcement official, who was not authorized to discuss the case and requested anonymity, did not say what type of instrument was used to write the word on the chest of Sparkman, who was supplementing his income doing Census field work. He was found Sept. 12 in a remote patch of Daniel Boone National Forest.
State police said Thursday that the cause of death was asphyxiation. State police said in a statement that he was found with a rope around his neck that was tied to a tree, but that he was "in contact with the ground." Capt. Lisa Rudzinski, commander of the Kentucky State Police post in London, said authorities have not yet been able to determine if it was an accidental death, suicide or homicide.
"Even though he was with the Census Bureau, sometimes people can view someone with any government agency as 'the government.' I just was afraid that he might meet the wrong character along the way up there," said Acciardo, who directs an after-school program at an elementary school where Sparkman was a frequent substitute teacher.
The Census Bureau has suspended door-to-door interviews in rural Clay County, where the body was found, until the investigation is complete, an official said.
Police said the area has a history of drug trouble including methamphetamine trafficking and marijuana growing in its forested valleys between steep hills and ridges.
"That part of the county, it has its ups and downs. We'll get a lot of complaints of drug activity," said Manchester Police Chief Jeff Culver. He said officers last month rounded up 40 drug suspects, mostly dealers, and made several more arrests in subsequent days.
Dee Davis, president of the Center for Rural Strategies in Whitesburg in southeastern Kentucky, said Clay County is impoverished and has a "pretty wild history of a black market economy, a drug economy."
"I don't think there is any deep-seated hatred of government there," he said. "Government is not seen as the enemy, except for people who might fear getting caught for what they're doing."
Davis said it was a dangerous time of year for someone to go knocking on doors because marijuana producers are typically harvesting their crop. "It would be reckless."
"Things can go bad really quickly," Davis said. "There are places that you would not send a Census worker this time of year. "
Manchester, a town of about 2,000 that is the county's main hub, is an exit off the highway, with a Walmart, a few hotels, chain restaurants and a couple gas stations. The drive from town toward the area where Sparkman's body was found winds through sparsely populated forest with no streetlights.
FBI spokesman David Beyer said the bureau is assisting state police and declined to discuss any details of the crime scene. Agents are trying to determine if foul play was involved and whether it had anything to do with Sparkman's job as Census worker, Beyer said. Attacking a federal worker during or because of his federal job is a federal crime.
Lucindia Scurry-Johnson, assistant director of the Census Bureau's southern office in Charlotte, N.C., said law enforcement officers have told the agency the matter is "an apparent homicide" but nothing else.
Census employees were told Sparkman's truck was found nearby, and a computer he was using for work was inside, she said.
Gov. Steve Beshear expressed his condolences to Sparkman's family.
"The Medical Examiner's office is awaiting test results to determine cause of death, and once a cause and manner have been established, state police will focus their investigation in the appropriate direction," Beshear said in a statement.
Sparkman's mother, Henrie Sparkman of Inverness, Fla., told The Associated Press her son was an Eagle scout who moved to Kentucky to direct the local Boy Scouts of America. He later became a substitute teacher in Laurel County, adjacent to the county where his body was found.
She said investigators have given her few details about her son's death. They did tell her his body was decomposed and haven't yet released it for burial.
"I was told it would be better for him to be cremated," she said.
Acciardo said he became suspicious and went to police when Sparkman didn't show up for work at the after-school program in Laurel County for two days. Authorities immediately investigated, he said.
"He was such an innocent person," Acciardo said. "I hate to say that he was naive, but he saw the world as all good, and there's a lot of bad in the world."
Sparkman had worked for the Census since 2003 in five counties in the surrounding area, conducting interviews once or twice a month. Much of his recent work had been in Clay County, officials said.
The Census Bureau, which is overseen by the Commerce Department, has yet to begin door-to-door canvassing for the 2010 head count, but thousands of field workers are doing smaller surveys on various demographic topics on behalf of federal agencies. Next year, the Census Bureau will dispatch up to 1.2 million temporary employees to locate hard-to-find residents.
For now, Sparkman's mother is waiting for answers.
"I have my own ideas, but I can't say them out loud. Not at this point," she said. "Right now, what I'm doing, I'm just waiting on the FBI to come to some conclusion."
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: twyacht on September 24, 2009, 07:25:04 PM
Caught the Fox News segment on this.
Rural Kentucky, VERY Rural Kentucky,....
quote:
"Things can go bad really quickly," Davis said. "There are places that you would not send a Census worker this time of year. "
what,...Spring would be better????
quote:
investigating whether he was a victim of anti-government sentiment.
I'm sure, until the investigation concludes something, that the State Run Media will portray it as such...
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: Bidah on September 24, 2009, 07:38:03 PM
It is also the number 2 pot growing and distribution spot in the U.S. The area where he was LEO's don't even go there.
-Bidah
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 24, 2009, 07:55:23 PM
The article mentions that this is harvest time for the Pot growers, and that Meth labs are fairly common. It also insinuates that the the "black market economy" dates back to the days of moonshiners and "Revenuers". It is worth noting that prior to the Civil War, the most dangerous threat to the US Government was the "Whiskey Rebellion" in what is now West Virginia and Western Pennsylvania, which was sparked by Washington (at Hamilton's urging ) imposing a tax on moonshine.
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on September 26, 2009, 08:32:20 AM
Limbaugh deems Pelosi's response to incendiary rhetoric "fake because you can't cry when you've got Botox all over your face"
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: tt11758 on September 26, 2009, 11:21:50 AM
Ok, you guys know that I normally don't subscribe to conspriacy theories. That being said, could the killing of this census worker be something done by the government to set the stage for cracking down on anti-government sentiments, stifling the 2nd amendment, stifling the first amendment as it applies to anti-government speech, etc.? Maybe by the same people who suicided Vince Foster, perhaps?
It bothers the hell out of me to think that the possibility even exists that my government would do something like this, yet I can't reject the notion out of hand.
I'm just saying.
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 26, 2009, 01:16:04 PM
Ok, you guys know that I normally don't subscribe to conspriacy theories. That being said, could the killing of this census worker be something done by the government to set the stage for cracking down on anti-government sentiments, stifling the 2nd amendment, stifling the first amendment as it applies to anti-government speech, etc.? Maybe by the same people who suicided Vince Foster, perhaps?
It bothers the hell out of me to think that the possibility even exists that my government would do something like this, yet I can't reject the notion out of hand.
I'm just saying.
I know what you mean, but I'm figuring that some Meth heads probably with booze added to already messed up heads are sufficient to create this situation. The original report said the victim was rather naive, going door to door might ask "Whats that stink" (Meth labs are usually located by smell) Paranoid, strung out tweakers are going to figure a Federal Census worker is still a federal agent. Before any one starts arguing "logic" remember that if these folks used logic they would not be ingesting something extracted from road flares.
Title: Re: Crocodile Tears from Pelosi; Political Violence Coming???
Post by: PegLeg45 on September 26, 2009, 04:25:16 PM
Ok, you guys know that I normally don't subscribe to conspriacy theories. That being said, could the killing of this census worker be something done by the government to set the stage for cracking down on anti-government sentiments, stifling the 2nd amendment, stifling the first amendment as it applies to anti-government speech, etc.? Maybe by the same people who suicided Vince Foster, perhaps?
It bothers the hell out of me to think that the possibility even exists that my government would do something like this, yet I can't reject the notion out of hand.
I'm just saying.
+1
I'm definitely not ready to replace my Resistol with foil yet, but a lot of this crap that goes on all over the country sure looks like it could be set ups ........you know, to swing public opinion somewhere down the road.