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Title: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: Overload on September 19, 2009, 01:07:14 AM
I see the banner outside, what do you think it'll be?  Is SIG bringing their AR to the US?  Will it be the Ruger LCS, the Light Compact Shotgun?  Para finally re-launching their .223 AR?  Is it the Magpul Bushmaster Remington Masada ACR release?

What do YOU think?
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 19, 2009, 10:06:40 AM
 S&W
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: Hazcat on September 19, 2009, 10:13:00 AM
S&W

He said in the podcast that S&W was on his mind. ;)
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: 1911 Junkie on September 19, 2009, 10:14:08 AM
The speculation has already begun.

http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=8855.0
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: Hazcat on September 19, 2009, 10:17:44 AM
The speculation has already begun.

http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=8855.0

Yeah, but there can never be too many new gun speculation threads!  ;D
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 19, 2009, 11:28:06 AM
 Ruger SR 556 will finally be available
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: mudman on September 19, 2009, 12:33:37 PM
S & W WILL FIX THE PPK/S
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: seeker_two on September 19, 2009, 10:59:19 PM
S & W WILL FIX THE PPK/S

No....pigs would start flying 5 minutes before that happened...  :D
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: david86440 on September 19, 2009, 11:49:29 PM
S & W WILL FIX THE PPK/S

My PPK/S works fine, before and after the recall. What are you having for problems?
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: TAB on September 20, 2009, 02:18:03 AM
I bet I won't be able to aford it...


I'm way into the red this year  :'(

Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: Rastus on September 20, 2009, 04:29:35 AM
Expansion of the SR9 line or a tactical shotgun from Ruger.
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: mudman on September 20, 2009, 10:34:23 AM
New AR in 22 lr?
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: Jackel on September 20, 2009, 01:55:09 PM
New AR in 22 lr?

and hell froze over yesterday
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: Pathfinder on September 21, 2009, 09:58:14 AM
Just announced - Ruger SR-22 - an AR in .22LR
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: ericire12 on September 21, 2009, 10:01:43 AM
Just announced - Ruger SR-22 - an AR in .22LR

WINNER! Good job Path!

http://gunblast.com/Ruger-SR22.htm
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: ericire12 on September 21, 2009, 10:03:36 AM
Its just a dressed up 10/22

(http://gunblast.com/images/Ruger-SR22/DSC08850.JPG)
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The SR-22 rifle comes with a ten-shot rotary magazine, but can use any reliable aftermarket magazine, such as this Ramline fifty-shot mag.

Barrel attaches just like any 10/22, allowing the use of aftermarket barrels
(http://gunblast.com/images/Ruger-SR22/Thumbs/DSC08848.jpg)
(http://gunblast.com/images/Ruger-SR22/Thumbs/DSC08846.jpg)
(http://www.downrange.tv/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/ruger-sr-22-blog.jpg)




-------------->$625
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: Hazcat on September 21, 2009, 10:17:15 AM
TOO 'spensive for me!
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: ericire12 on September 21, 2009, 10:20:30 AM
***Cough***

http://www.nordic-components.com/
http://www.cactustactical.com/osc/ruger-1022-accessories-c-412_457.html

--------> http://www.cactustactical.com/osc/archangel-advanced-rimfire-system-for-the-ruger-1022-p-1682.html

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Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: 1911 Junkie on September 21, 2009, 10:33:09 AM
Holy cow! A 10/22. I bet this will be one of the best selling .22 rifles ever made. Way to go Ruger!

What?

It's been around forever and they're just putting lipstick on it?

Way to go Ruger for creating something you've already created!
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: ericire12 on September 21, 2009, 12:03:03 PM
Way to go Ruger for creating something you've already created!

Thats basically it in a nut shell. IMO, This is really not a good business move for them.... it does not meet the consumers need for this particular market segment... It does not replicate practicing with an AR. It replicates shooting a 10/22 with a pistol grip.

*The Mags are a totally different style
*The mag release is a totally different style/location
*The safety is a completely different style/location
*There is no traditional AR style charging handle
*You can't do any iron sight training
*Rails must be purchase for attaching accessories on the forearm
*Did I mention the price? The MSRPs for dedicated AR-22s by Smith or Colt are $500


I dont think people that are looking for an economical way to get some AR practice are going to buy this rifle -- 10/22 enthusiasts might, but they can AR out their own 10/22 for much less money. This just does not give consumers what they are looking for when making this type of purchase...... and for far less money they can go out and buy a conversion kit, a .22 upper, or a dedicated AR-22.

IMO, this way of entering the AR-22 market is pretty much a cop out. This is not an AR-22, it is a dressed up 10/22........ and a pricey one at that.
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: 1911 Junkie on September 21, 2009, 12:59:27 PM
I have to ask, what is Ruger thinking? Do they not consult with consumers or real shooters? Are they so arrogant to think that just because they make it that someone will want it?

Whoever thought up this idea should be fired.

On the other hand, it probably isn't costing them much on the manufacturing side.
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: Texas_Bryan on September 21, 2009, 01:01:46 PM
Thats basically it in a nut shell. IMO, This is really not a good business move for them.... it does not meet the consumers need for this particular market segment... It does not replicate practicing with an AR. It replicates shooting a 10/22 with a pistol grip.

*The Mags are a totally different style
*The mag release is a totally different style/location
*The safety is a completely different style/location
*There is no traditional AR style charging handle
*You can't do any iron sight training
*Rails must be purchase for attaching accessories on the forearm
*Did I mention the price? The MSRPs for dedicated AR-22s by Smith or Colt are $500


I dont think people that are looking for an economical way to get some AR practice are going to buy this rifle -- 10/22 enthusiasts might, but they can AR out their own 10/22 for much less money. This just does not give consumers what they are looking for when making this type of purchase...... and for far less money they can go out and buy a conversion kit, a .22 upper, or a dedicated AR-22.

IMO, this way of entering the AR-22 market is pretty much a cop out. This is not an AR-22, it is a dressed up 10/22........ and a pricey one at that.

How many 10/22 enthusiast are there. ;)  Its RUGER, once it goes down in price it'll be totally worth it to the enthusiast.  I was right there balking at the SR556 with the rest of you.  But now that its gone down to $1600, I'm finding my self saving for one.  Let this one settle and most will take to it all right.  For an overall practice carbine, not just AR, get that thought out of your head, it'll probably do.
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: ericire12 on September 21, 2009, 01:10:56 PM
How many 10/22 enthusiast are there. ;)  Its RUGER, once it goes down in price it'll be totally worth it to the enthusiast.  I was right there balking at the SR556 with the rest of you.  But now that its gone down to $1600, I'm finding my self saving for one.  Let this one settle and most will take to it all right.

As the price of SR-22 comes down, so will the MSRP real world price of the dedicated AR-22s put out by Smith or Colt.
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: PegLeg45 on September 21, 2009, 01:40:25 PM
As the price of SR-22 comes down, so will the MSRP real world price of the dedicated AR-22s put our by Smith or Colt.

Yes, if nothing else, it adds to the competition pool.
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: ericire12 on September 21, 2009, 01:47:52 PM
Yes, if nothing else, it adds to the competition pool.

No, my point was that as the SR22 SR10/22 declines in price, the prices of dedicated AR-22s will also decline proportionately in price...... It will be very hard for Ruger to find buyers for this gun in this market segment at a higher price point then other guns that actually fill the needs of this niche of consumers.
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: ericire12 on September 21, 2009, 01:53:03 PM
The video from The DRTV Blog is being featured on AmmoLand:

http://www.ammoland.com/2009/09/21/new-video-of-the-ruger-sr-22-rifle/
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: ericire12 on September 21, 2009, 02:02:49 PM
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=930605

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Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: mudman on September 21, 2009, 02:20:36 PM
I bet it sells  XMAS DAD
Title: Re: New Gun Launch at DRTV Monday, Sept 21, 2009 Place your bets!
Post by: mudman on September 21, 2009, 02:26:39 PM
HOW ABOUT A 22Mag