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Member Section => Tactical Rifle & Carbine => Topic started by: ericire12 on September 25, 2009, 01:29:05 PM
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Dayton, OH, --(AmmoLand.com)- MKS Supply, Inc. Hi-Point Carbines, one of the best firearm bargains available in today’s market, debuts new models and calibers.
Incredibly affordable at only $249 to $299 depending on sighting system, Hi-Point Carbines are not to be underestimated just because they do NOT cost $800.00.
For a price under most .22LR rifles nowadays, the Hi-Point Carbine is a serious firearm and very affordable for most gun owners.
Hi-Points Carbines are a bit wild looking but then again check out the many multi-thousand dollar rifles and carbines in today’s market covered with so much Picatinny railing they feel like handful of razor blades, and, Hi-Points do have handy top-side and forearm bottom Picatinny rails, and that’s more than enough for a quick reaction carbine.
We digress, but that’s fun too….
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Hi-Points come chambered in 9mm Luger and .40 S&W calibers. It is reasonable to expect to pick up an extra 100-250 feet per second of velocity and obviously more energy over handguns chambered in these loads from Hi-Point carbines thanks to the longer barrel compared to hndguns of the same caliber; especially if using +P loads.
Hi-Point Carbines are employed by police departments world-wide. Compact, light in weight, reliable, accurate and did we mention affordable, these handy robust carbines can sling lead with their same size but much more expensive counter-parts all day long.
The robust all weather black molded polymer skeletonized stock is both tough and light in weight. Additionally the forearm offers an excellent grabby surface regardless of time of year, conditions or whether the user is wearing gloves, mitts or is bare handed.
The simple blow back design reliably feeds ammunition from the compact single stack 10-round magazine which also fits the Hi-Point series of affordable same caliber semi-auto pistols. When the last round is fired the bolt locks to the rear for a rapid reload.
Model 995TS shown with optional $24.99 (MSRP) folding hand grip.
Models/Sights/MSRP prices for the 9mm; the .40 caliber will be about $25.00 more for each model listed below. Also the first 9 in each model listed below represents a 9mm. The model number for ordering the .40 caliber will replace the first 9 with the number 40.
* 995TS, adjustable ghost ring iron sight, $249.00
* 995TS4X with 4X optical scope, $282.00
* 995TSRD with B.S.A. brand red dot sight, $282.00
* 995TSLZ with laser sight $299.00
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They don't have them listed on their own site yet! I wonder if SOG will have them anytime soon.
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I bet it'll run like a champ! ;D
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I would love one in .45 or .40
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I would love one in .45 or .40
And the earth stood still! I agree with 2How. ;D As much as I am generally anti-pistol calber carbines and have been skeptical of high point, I have been coming around on both subjects. Plus, as the review said, did you notice the price? If it goes bang every time and will hit minute of pie plate at 50 yards and give a good group at 15 rapid fire I would give one in .45 a long hard look.
FQ13
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They have them in .40. SOG sells the basic for 159 and with 30mm red dot for 179.
They need to bring out a bull pup.
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They have them in .40. SOG sells the basic for 159 and with 30mm red dot for 179.
They need to bring out a bull pup.
I know you have one Haz. What is your accuracy and reliability like?
Thanks
FQ13
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Actually I don't! I keep looking at the 9mm but zero cash flow right now. The only draw back is 10 round mags and they don't switch between hand gun and carbine.
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You have to be a little careful when choosing ammo for a pistol cartridge rifle. If it adds too much velocity the round may come apart prematurely. Kinda like premature jacketlosey. :o I have researched these carbines alot and the reliability is flawless from what I can find, blow back operation. Only drawback is hi-cap mags, I don't believe there are any available .
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A lot of people make fun of these rifles. But from a cost to performance standpoint, they in fact are hard to beat for putting a lot of lead downrange in a fun way. Bill T.
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At $160 I am thinking about the 9mm. I would hugely prefer .45 though.The thing is I disregarded my own advice and panicked my way into an AR I don't need. Want and am glad to have, yes, need, not so much. Even though I think that BOs odds of getting an AWB passed at this point are right up there with my odds of converting to Islam or getting picked up by Angelina Jolie; I still bought one when I found a DPMS at 2007 prices ($560 give or take). Problem is that although I justified it as hurricane defense (yeah, yeah, but we all have our rationales, I'm going with looters, just work with me here). The thing is that even then slinging a lot of .556 around in the suburbs seems like a bad idea. 9mm or .45 on the other hand.......If they would just make a high cap mag. >:( Don't they know their customers? I mean for God's sake how many FUDDS are going to buy that rifle?
FQ13 who would like to slap their CEO
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FQ,
If the mags would at least switch between carbine and hand gun it would be nice. Rumor has it that a .45 is in the works but who knows when.
BTW I don't think 5.56 is gonna do much to a hurricane. ;)
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you just cant find any but a 9mm . 40s have been out but try to buy one. the .45 should be out by now ,but noooooo.
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FQ,
If the mags would at least switch between carbine and hand gun it would be nice. Rumor has it that a .45 is in the works but who knows when.
BTW I don't think 5.56 is gonna do much to a hurricane. ;)
Maybe not the hurricane, but it should get the undivided attention of someone trying to steal my generator. ;D
FQ13
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SOG has 40s in stock.
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FQ,
If the mags would at least switch between carbine and hand gun it would be nice. Rumor has it that a .45 is in the works but who knows when.
BTW I don't think 5.56 is gonna do much to a hurricane. ;)
Kel Tec makes one that accepts handgun mags, again, I think you own one though I may be wrong. Any thoughts Haz?
FQ13
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Nope, don't got one of them either.
Kel Tek is a good company but if I was to buy one it would probably be the HiPoint. Price, track record and life time guarantee.
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FQ, it's the PISTOLS that Haz has
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At $160 I am thinking about the 9mm. I would hugely prefer .45 though.The thing is I disregarded my own advice and panicked my way into an AR I don't need. Want and am glad to have, yes, need, not so much. Even though I think that BOs odds of getting an AWB passed at this point are right up there with my odds of converting to Islam or getting picked up by Angelina Jolie; I still bought one when I found a DPMS at 2007 prices ($560 give or take). Problem is that although I justified it as hurricane defense (yeah, yeah, but we all have our rationales, I'm going with looters, just work with me here). The thing is that even then slinging a lot of .556 around in the suburbs seems like a bad idea. 9mm or .45 on the other hand.......If they would just make a high cap mag. >:( Don't they know their customers? I mean for God's sake how many FUDDS are going to buy that rifle?
FQ13 who would like to slap their CEO
Funny you mentioned looters... After Andrew, my sister and I were watching the news coverage. They interviewed a very young National Guardsman and questioned what he was there for. He answered, "We're here to stop the looters and the lootering." We still bring that one up every once in a while.
I now return your thread to its regularly scheduled direction.
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Funny you mentioned looters... After Andrew, my sister and I were watching the news coverage. They interviewed a very young National Guardsman and questioned what he was there for. He answered, "We're here to stop the looters and the lootering." We still bring that one up every once in a while.
I now return your thread to its regularly scheduled direction.
I promise that post hurricane, hoping I never see another one(four was enough, with one trip to the Er for heat stroke and back injuries from falling off a ladder), I will use my weapons to stop "lootering" on my block. ;D
FQ13
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Lootering must be like loitering, but with movement and larceny ;D
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Can't ya see the charges "Lootering with intent to harm"
;D
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Or better yet the new guy on the cell block.
"What are you in for"?
"Lootering".
"Bitch, get over here". ;D
FQ13
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Kel Tec makes one that accepts handgun mags, again, I think you own one though I may be wrong. Any thoughts Haz?
FQ13
The Kel-Tec Sub-2000 is a folding carbine that takes handgun mags (different depending on caliber). Compact, light, and very accurate. Mine is .40 S&W and uses Glock 22 mags.
The main thing with the Kel-Tec versus the Hi-Point is price. The Kel-Tec goes for a little over twice the cost of the Hi-Point.
The only reason I ended up with one is because a guy owed me $200 and gave the Kel-Tec for it.
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By the way, they dont come in 22 LR; 9mm and 40 only.
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You're absolutely right. They don't come in .22lr. (Hopefully one day they will.)
I own a 559 carbine (9 mill.) and my first shots out of the box were at 50 yards and it was amazingly accurate! I say this because I didn't clean the carbine at all, just put the bolt and sling on; and because the last time I shot at 50 yards was when I fired the Mossberg 464 about a year ago. I am not a good shot and I spend most of my time shooting .22s from my Henry and Heritage at 25 yards.
The HiPoint shot all 50 rounds in an area that would be covered by a custard plate. For me that's plenty accurate.
I wish that they made a version in .357 SIG because then I would risk saying it's a modern cversion of the 30 Carbine.