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Title: The next evolution in revolvers???
Post by: ericire12 on September 30, 2009, 12:23:44 PM
Very interesting post over at The Firearm Blog:

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/09/30/chiappa-rhino-revolver/
(http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/rhino_revolver-tfb.jpg)

Its the Chiappa Rhino Revolver. A .357 that fires from the bottom chamber in an effort to lessen recoil

Specifications     
Caliber    357 Mag.
Capacity    6 rounds
Barrel    2"
Rate of twist    1:18.5"
Weight    24 ounces
Title: Re: The next evolution in revolvers???
Post by: jnevis on September 30, 2009, 12:43:39 PM
Shouldn't that be posed in the "Ugliest Gun" thread????


I just don't see how firing from the bottom will lessen recoil other than putting the impulse lower in the hand.

Damn that thing is ugly
Title: Re: The next evolution in revolvers???
Post by: tombogan03884 on September 30, 2009, 03:51:53 PM
 I need to either see an actual example or a clearer picture, it's hard to tell WHERE the barrel is in all that steel, also, if it fires from the BOTTOM cylinder, how does a hammer at the TOP of the cylinder hit the primer ?
Last question, WHY ?   Conventional revolvers have worked out pretty well for the last 153 years using the KISS principle that lessens the possibility of failure.
This belongs with the designers OTHER failure the Mateba, in the class of ugly oddities.
Title: Re: The next evolution in revolvers???
Post by: bhp9mm on September 30, 2009, 03:57:05 PM
that thing is ugly
Title: Re: The next evolution in revolvers???
Post by: TAB on September 30, 2009, 04:36:02 PM
Something one of my engineeering professors said in college comes to mind...

If your designing some thing, and it does not end up being bueatiful, you did something wrong.
Title: Re: The next evolution in revolvers???
Post by: ericire12 on September 30, 2009, 05:04:22 PM
Yes, its ugly..... wow you people are simple. ::)

I also ask "Why"?

How exactly would firing from the bottom cylinder do anything more to lessen recoil. The weight of the gun remains the same no matter if the forces of recoil are pushing or pulling that weight upward.
Title: Re: The next evolution in revolvers???
Post by: TAB on September 30, 2009, 05:10:08 PM
Yes, its ugly..... wow you people are simple. ::)

I also ask "Why"?

How exactly would firing from the bottom cylinder do anything more to lessen recoil. The weight of the gun remains the same no matter if the forces of recoil are pushing or pulling that weight upward.


its all about leverage.  the higher the bore axis, the more force will be applied.

think of it as using a cheater bar.

if you can apply 50 lbs of force at 1', you have 50 ftlbs.  if you add a 2' cheater bar, your now aplly 150 ftlbs
Title: Re: The next evolution in revolvers???
Post by: 2HOW on September 30, 2009, 05:29:06 PM
Ugly dont mean squat, if it works. Give me an ugly gun if it runs and has ammo thats available. If it does the deed. 8)
Title: Re: The next evolution in revolvers???
Post by: Neon Knight Anubis on September 30, 2009, 06:35:04 PM
Ugly dont mean squat, if it works. Give me an ugly gun if it runs and has ammo thats available. If it does the deed. 8)

Lets all say it now......











GLOCK!!! ;D
Title: Re: The next evolution in revolvers???
Post by: ericire12 on September 30, 2009, 07:26:57 PM
Lets all say it now......
GLOCK!!! ;D

Beauty is in the eye of the one left breathing. ;)
Title: Re: The next evolution in revolvers???
Post by: PegLeg45 on September 30, 2009, 11:04:03 PM
Beauty is in the eye of the one left breathing. ;)

Can I use that?

Title: Re: The next evolution in revolvers???
Post by: long762range on October 01, 2009, 01:01:09 AM
Chiappa Firearms’ Rhino has revolutionized the revolver
with a patented design that tames the prehistoric
characteristic that most revolvers possess. The barrel
is aligned with the bottom most chamber, and this is
the key component to Rhino’s innovative features and
design. The position of the barrel lowers the center of
gravity and yields a centerline of the bore more in line
with the shooter’s arm, allowing for the most natural
“point ability” while engaging a target. Th is drastically
reduces both recoil and muzzle fl ip, insuring subsequent
shots to be on target faster than ever before. Th e
reduction of the recoil allows for the use of ultra light
alloys to be used in the construction of the Rhino. With
choices from 2” to 6” barrel lengths and sight options,
featuring both double and single action characteristics,
the single action is actuated by a hammer cocking device
that engages the unexposed hammer to prepare to fire.
Rhino’s lightweight, minimal recoil, fast action, and
reliable revolver functions make this handgun the
ultimate choice for defense and sport shooting, while
launching the revolver into the future!

http://www.armichiappa.it/ita/catalogo.pdf  Page 55

Or in Italian

Il nuovo modello Rhino di Chiappa Firearms ha
rivoluzionato il concetto di revolver con un progetto
brevettato che fa sembrare obsoleti i precedenti revolver.
La canna della Rhino è allineata con la camera cartuccia
inferiore, cosa che costituisce la sua caratteristica principale
conferendole la forma insolita. La posizione della canna
determina un abbassamento del centro di gravità e un
centraggio più allineato col braccio del tiratore, off rendo la
posa più naturale quando si mira ad un bersaglio. La posa
naturale garantisce una forte riduzione del rinculo e del
rilevamento, e permette di conseguenza tiri sul bersaglio
con velocità ineguagliabile; la riduzione del rinculo
permette inoltre l’utilizzo di leghe ultraleggere. Rhino ha
canne intercambiabili da 2” a 6” e mire opzionali, e può
essere utilizzata in singola e doppia azione; la singola
azione viene innescata da un meccanismo di armamento
del cane che nel preparlo al fuoco lo nasconde.


Il peso ridotto, il rinculo minimo, la velocità di azione e
l’affi dabilità rendono Rhino un modello perfetto per difesa
e tiro, un revolver del futuro.
 ;D
Title: Re: The next evolution in revolvers???
Post by: jaybet on October 01, 2009, 09:04:13 AM
Well, now doesn't this create a conundrum? On the one hand, I'd like to have one because it's different and I do think of my guns as a "collection" of sorts. But, there are so many OTHER guns I lust after that this thing is way down on the list.
BUT...it's pretty funny- looks like a turd with a handle. If functionality were our only criteria we'd probably have completely different pieces than we all do- looks, feel, fit, all play into what makes us want one gun over the other.

The need to shoot an attacker is no laughing matter, But it WOULD be a funny situation to shoot an attacker with it- you would HAVE to shoot them because they'd take one look at it and say,"You can't shoot me with a turn that has a handle". Then you go boom, then the cops would be like, "No, get us the gun you shot the perp with. Don't try to give us this turd with a handle on it".
That's how that would go.  They'd never find the weapon used.
Title: Re: The next evolution in revolvers???
Post by: sledgemeister on October 06, 2009, 11:25:26 AM
tis fugly! ewwww yuk.

Now the Mateba the pic below the one in the link (which is no longer made) I would have one of those, they look interesting.
Title: Re: The next evolution in revolvers???
Post by: Sgt Z Squad on October 06, 2009, 10:35:49 PM
Seems like alot of sharp angles and edges to get hung up on clothing.
Title: Re: The next evolution in revolvers???
Post by: seeker_two on October 07, 2009, 04:52:30 AM
I wouldn't be opposed to trying one if given the chance....but that grip frame looks like a recoil amplifier....