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Member Section => Handguns => Topic started by: r_boyette on October 06, 2009, 04:36:29 PM
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Just purchased a new Sprindfield XDm .40S&W. Really liking it so far. Really smooth trigger for what it is and ergonomics are perfectly suited for my handtype out of the box. Have been in the market for a polymer pistol for awhile for a carry gun. A recent breakin at my home while I was in the hospital claimed my favorite old carry piece. A blued 4" S&W 586. Sick over the loss of my favorite slick lil DA I decided it was time to buy a new piece. All the controls and ease of disassembly and pointability of the XDm have given me a good first impression. The downside I've found with it is it is a pain to reload mags without the supplied reloader. And of course I'd like to had it in 45acp. Have long been fond of Glocks but just have never found one that fit me like the XD. And the cost of a quality 1911 and the rough life this carry/truck gun will live I just couldn't justify the colt or kimber.
I'm by no means posting about this purchase to reaffirm that I made the right decision. I haven't had a chance to put several rounds downrange and was curious about the opinions of those that have. Not interested in the gun snobbery type debate bjust personal experience type opinions
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I fondled one once, but was not really blown away by it. I really like what they have done with the expanded mag capacity........ The sights are also really nice, and all the free gear is a nice bonus.
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as far as reloading the mags,that should get easier with use,or get an uplula mag loader,they are great
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something that I think is very, very good...
you no longer have to pull the trigger to field strip the gun. That is not the case with glock at the normal xd
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I checked one out at the NRA convention and I'd like to have one, but it won't be offered in CA. It would need to have a labeled chamber loaded indictor and a magazine disconnect - oh yeah, and 10 round magazines. All that just to be eligible for the drop tests in this jackboot thug state. :-\
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I think the xdm may be my next purchase. probally in 9mm for capacity but i think there are 40. to 9mm conversion barrels available. send a range report ,please.
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I think the xdm may be my next purchase. probally in 9mm for capacity but i think there are 40. to 9mm conversion barrels available. send a range report ,please.
*Pssst.... Glock has 33 round magazines available for 9mm ;)
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Looked hard at the XD, but went with the M+P .40 for the ambi mag release, and grip. Shot the 9 and .40 XD's and its a fine pistol.
If it feels good to you, suits your application and intended use, it is a good one to have, no question.
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I have an XDm 40 and have been very pleased with it. I have used it in several training classes over the last 6 months and never had a malfunction of any kind. It runs well in the rain, the grit, and the mud. 3000 rounds later it is still very accurate. My only complaint is that the trigger pull could be a little smoother, but it has smoothed out some since I got it.
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*Pssst.... Glock has 33 round magazines available for 9mm ;)
have you ever used a 33 round mag in a glock? They are useless.
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I have a XDm 9mm and think it's the best 9mm in the price range. I have shot about 1,000 rounds through it and not one problem with it. The grip is perfect for me. I used the number 1 grip and it fits perfect. Having a 19 round mag is perfect living here in Arizona. As for a 40 caliber I use my Sig P229r. For home defense I use my XDm and for everyday carry I use my Sig.
My son uses the new XD 40 and shots better with it than his Glock at 15 yards.
I think Springfield Armory with the XDm is giving Sig Sauer a run for their money. 8)
Take Care,
Cowboy Jack
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*Pssst.... Glock has 33 round magazines available for 9mm ;)
I know, I've got one for my G26. Makes a great conversation piece ;)
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have you ever used a 33 round mag in a glock? They are useless.
My Glock 17 and a 33 rounder are what I have as my night stand gun setup. It also goes to the range everyonce in a while for some fun time (Well, back when ammo was cheap and available)>
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I didn't like the mag's much on the XD. I thought the lips of them are to sharp. I cut my finger when I took a friends out to the range.
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I am a Glock fan and buy mainly Glocks and a Glock Certified Armorer. But I must say, I really do like the Smith and Wesson M&P with it's trigger pull and change of backstraps. But needless to say, I sold it to buy another Glock because I would rather own a firearm that is proven and dependable. Glocks have never failed me and have been very disappointed with other choices. Plus the reset on the trigger of a Glock is one of the fastest of all handguns. ;)
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I thought he was asking for opinions about the XDm, not S&W or Glocks. ;)
Also, there are a few differences between the XD and the XDm, those differences are all for the better.
I bought an XDm-9 a few months ago and absolutely love it. I dedicated a few hundred dollars to researching this purchase renting most popular models in both .40 and 9mm. For me nothing felt quite as good as the XDm and I was shooting a lot tighter groups with it as well. It is my first handgun so a lot of factors contributed to me getting the XDm-9 over the XDm-40; large magazine capacity (19+1 is amazing), 9mm rounds are a little cheaper than .40 rounds and most of my buddies have 9mms.
Unfortunately I didn't do a whole lot of research into the aftermarket or ballistics. Had I done that I would have bought the XDm-40 instead. The .40 S&W round has better stopping power than the 9mm, and there are conversion kits available for the XDm-40 to convert to both .357 sig and 9mm. That means for about $150 (plus extra mags) you could have three guns in one.
That being said, I still really love my XDm-9, but I would love to trade it for an XDm-40 if anyone is interested. It has only a few hundred rounds through it and is in "as new" condition.
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I thought he was asking for opinions about the XDm, not S&W or Glocks. ;)
Also, there are a few differences between the XD and the XDm, those differences are all for the better.
I bought an XDm-9 a few months ago and absolutely love it. I dedicated a few hundred dollars to researching this purchase renting most popular models in both .40 and 9mm. For me nothing felt quite as good as the XDm and I was shooting a lot tighter groups with it as well. It is my first handgun so a lot of factors contributed to me getting the XDm-9 over the XDm-40; large magazine capacity (19+1 is amazing), 9mm rounds are a little cheaper than .40 rounds and most of my buddies have 9mms.
Unfortunately I didn't do a whole lot of research into the aftermarket or ballistics. Had I done that I would have bought the XDm-40 instead. The .40 S&W round has better stopping power than the 9mm, and there are conversion kits available for the XDm-40 to convert to both .357 sig and 9mm. That means for about $150 (plus extra mags) you could have three guns in one.
That being said, I still really love my XDm-9, but I would love to trade it for an XDm-40 if anyone is interested. It has only a few hundred rounds through it and is in "as new" condition.
Give this a read:
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=1896.0
It is a compare and contrast of 9mm vs .40
IMO, all the positives that you point out about the 9mm gives it the win over the .40 and its minute increase in performance...... If 9mm is not enough for ya, go all the way up to .45
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I love the "m"s safety features including the sear disconnect built into the takedown lever. I would love to purchase one as it is a perfect fit for my hand, however it's a bit hard on the wallet for a plastic fantastic. Perhaps knocking a c note off and offering it at the standard XD price would assist in one being added to my collection.
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Looked hard at the XD, but went with the M+P .40 for the ambi mag release, and grip. Shot the 9 and .40 XD's and its a fine pistol.
If it feels good to you, suits your application and intended use, it is a good one to have, no question.
XDs have ambi mag release. I like using the middle finger on my strong hand to hit the mag release on my XDs.
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Benrow77
"Stopping power", particularly from a pistol caliber is a myth.
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Can you expand on that a bit Tom? I do agree to some extent...my handguns around the house are meant to keep the bad guy's head down, or convince him that discretion is the better part, while I get to my 12 guage...but I'm sure if I connect with a .357 mag jhp or two that bad guy may be effectively stopped. I believe your comment is directed to the fact that long gun calibers have more energy downrange than handgun calibers?
I like the XD's. It made my short list for a next pistol, but in .45 acp, not 9mm or .40. I invested some money in range time with all three and for my money I just like the .45 acp over the 9 or .40. Never tried the .357 sig as, in my opinion, I just don't see that caliber on the shelves out here. The XDm has some great features to it.
That said, since I've decided on .45 acp as my pistol caliber, I've decided on a 1911 model over the polymer guns.
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I'll comment on your post backwards,
First off, when some one say's they got a ".45", there is only ONE gun that comes to mind, and it AIN'T a Glock ;D
Congratulations on yours, enjoy.
As to the "Stopping power" issue, despite what Hollyweird shows, no caliber will guarantee knocking down your opponent ( T Rex doesn't count because it knocks you around no matter WHICH end you are on ;D ) There are cases from Vietnam of VC taking multiple hits from .50 cals and not stopping
http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2008/04/29/one-shot-stop-handgun-statistics-and-why-theyre-a-load-of-crap/
There are other references on the net, but I don't feel like searching for them right now, what makes bullets work is blood loss, damaging organs or breaking the support structure.
Obviously if you shoot off a kneecap, or smash the pelvis they will fall down but that (with a reasonable caliber ) is more a function of shot placement.
Personally I do carry a .45, but that is because I wanted a 1911 and there is only one caliber THAT should be in (OK, 38 Super maybe but ammo is harder to find ;D ) also bigger holes bleed faster and while my .357 HP's might expand perfectly, my .45 will NEVER shrink.
There was a thread, "Tales from the Mortuary" that was posted by a Coroner that went into some detail, I can not find it now though, also Shooting Times has a column by a guy who worked for years as the ballistics guy in the Dallas PD crime lab that dealt with that in a past issue maybe 2 years ago.
Hope that at least helps point you toward some documented research.
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Ive only shot a XDm in 9mm. I thought it was a geat shooting pistol. It was probably the most accurate out of the box auto that I have ever shot. The ergos are awesome and the sights are easy to see. Thumbs up on the XDm.
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Ive only shot a XDm in 9mm. I thought it was a geat shooting pistol. It was probably the most accurate out of the box auto that I have ever shot. The ergos are awesome and the sights are easy to see. Thumbs up on the XDm.
The thing is, its hard to buy a bad pistol these days if you do your research. Glock, Sig, M@Ps, Rock River, Para, Springfield, some of the Taurus line, etc., name your price and figure out what feels right to your hand and you should be fine with anything from $500-$800 dollars. This is really pretty cheap given that you will be carrying it everyday and trusting your life to it. This is a great time to buy a hand gun.
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