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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Teresa Heilevang on October 07, 2009, 11:58:15 PM

Title: CCW question
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on October 07, 2009, 11:58:15 PM
Question...................

What is the fine / jail time for getting caught with a concealed weapon and no permit vs having a CC permit but getting caught in a business that has a sign saying no CC ?

I know it varies from state to state... but..................... I need an answer...
Thanks  :-*
Title: Re: CCW question
Post by: david86440 on October 08, 2009, 12:13:48 AM
Carry laws vary from state to state and also within the state itself.....Big city vs small town USA and intent.

Now if you need bail money........................................give me a call and I'll be there for you.  ;)

• Drawing or exhibiting a firearm or other deadly weapon with the intentional
infliction of serious bodily injury. (Penal Code § 417.6.)
• Bringing into or possessing firearms upon or within public or private schools,
playgrounds and youth centers. (Penal Code § 626.9.)
• Willful infliction of corporal injury of a spouse or cohabitant. (Penal Code § 273.5.)
• Willful violation of a court order to prevent domestic violence. (Penal Code
§ 273.6.)
• Stalking. (Penal Code § 646.9.)
• Carrying a loaded firearm with the intent to commit a felony. (Penal Code § 12023.)
• Driver or owner of any vehicle who knowingly permits another person to discharge a firearm
from the vehicle or any person who willfully and maliciously discharges a firearm from a motor
vehicle. (Penal Code §§ 12034(b) and (d).)
• Criminal possession of a firearm. (Penal Code § 12040.)
• Selling a concealable firearm to a minor. (Penal Code § 12072(b).)
• Possessing handgun ammunition designed to penetrate metal or armor. (Penal Code §12320.)
• Carrying a concealed or loaded firearm or other deadly weapon or wearing a peace
officer uniform while picketing, carrying a concealed loaded weapon, or wearing a peace officer
uniform. (Penal Code § 12590.)
• Possession of a firearm by a person ineligible to possess firearms because of his or
her mental history. (Welfare and Institutions Code § 8100).
• Providing a firearm or deadly weapon to a person who is prohibited from possessing firearms
because of his or her mental history. (Welfare and Institutions Code § 8101).
• Possession of a firearm by a person ineligible to possess firearms because of specific mental
prohibitions. (Welfare and Institutions Code § 8103).

• Bringing or sending firearms or other contraband into a juvenile detention facility.
(Welfare and Institutions Code § 871.5)
• Bringing or sending firearms or other contraband into youth authority institutions.
(Welfare and Institutions Code § 1001.5.)
• Violating Penal Code section 12072 involving sales and transfers of firearms,including:
• Threatening to cause death or great bodily injury to another person. (Penal Code § 422)
Title: Re: CCW question
Post by: TAB on October 08, 2009, 12:17:41 AM
CCing with no CCW in CA it depends on rather or not the hand gun is registered to you.

if it is, its a misdemeanor, normally a fine and you can't buy a gun for 5 years.  you can get 30 days in jail, but thats pretty rare.

If its not registered to you, felony  6 months min.


getting cuaght in a biz past a sign, generally nothing  unless you refuse to leave. ( which I think is wrong, I like the tx 30.06 law)
Now if the police are called, your not really going to have a good day.  even if you have a CCW or are a LEO.  You could lose your CCW( most countys, you would get it yanked) as well as being charged with disturbing the peace.( maybe more,)
Title: Re: CCW question
Post by: fightingquaker13 on October 08, 2009, 12:25:40 AM
The answer depends on three things
1 where (state/city)
2 If the gun is legal and you are entiled to own it
3 The circumstances (a school, a bar, drunk, or in your front yard investigating a noise)
Generally, CCW with a legal weapon is a misdemeanor (THIS VARIES FROM STATE TO STATE) aggravating circumstances may apply. Generally, I figure your odds of getting caught with the gun by a cop are about equal to or higher than having to use it.If I can't carry legally I don't. As far as the signs, TAB has it right. You are trespassing if you don't leave when asked.
FQ13
Title: Re: CCW question
Post by: Teresa Heilevang on October 08, 2009, 02:09:14 AM
Thanks............I appreciate the info...
Title: Re: CCW question
Post by: ericire12 on October 08, 2009, 06:40:25 AM
http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/KSSL.pdf
Title: Re: CCW question
Post by: Hazcat on October 08, 2009, 06:43:31 AM
Florida Laws

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0790/titl0790.htm

In Florida there is no posting off limits.
Title: Re: CCW question
Post by: Steyr M40A1 on October 08, 2009, 07:09:09 AM
Florida Laws

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0790/titl0790.htm

In Florida there is no posting off limits.

http://floridaconcealedcarry.com/Forum is a great forum for us in FL. (my screen name is Soverign if you want to say HI)

But carrying w/o a CCW is felony bad, and only place not allow for CCW to take is normal like govt buildings, LEO stations, schools, bars... But a business cant use a no gun sign. If found out they can ask you to leave and if you dont then call the fuzz as you would be trespassing.
Title: Re: CCW question
Post by: ellis4538 on October 08, 2009, 12:25:40 PM
In Ohio it's a felony unless you can prove, I believe it is called "Affirmative Defense" that you have a need to carry--large sum of money/valuables, you have been threatened or something like that.  Provision is made in the law for a temp./quick CCW if you have been threatened but it still takes a little time and is no good to you util you are able to get it!  It is my understanding that if you are in a place posted "No Guns" and it is on the prohibited list (school,bar, hospital and etc.)it is a felony.  If it is posted and not on the list they can only ask you to leave.

Richard