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Title: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: philw on October 09, 2009, 05:32:41 AM
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26188742-401,00.html
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Barack Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize

Barack Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize
Praised for "giving people hope"
Has called for the end of nuclear weapons
US President Barack Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize today.

He was awarded the prize for giving the world "hope for a better future" with his work for peace and calls to reduce the global stockpile of nuclear weapons.

The Norwegian Nobel Committee praised Mr Obama for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples".

The first African-American to hold his country's highest office, Mr Obama has called for disarmament and worked to restart the stalled Middle East peace process since taking office in January.

"Very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," the committee said in a citation.

It awarded the prize to Mr Obama less than nine months into his presidency.

Despite setting out an ambitious international agenda, he has yet to score any breakthrough on the Middle East or Iran's nuclear program, and faces difficult choices on the conduct of the war in Afghanistan.

Last month Mr Obama chaired a historic meeting of the UN Security Council, which unanimously approved a US-drafted resolution calling on nuclear weapons states to scrap their arsenals.

Mr Obama is the third senior US Democrat to win the prize this decade after former Vice President Al Gore won in 2007 along with the UN climate panel and Jimmy Carter in 2002.

The prize will be handed over in Oslo on December 10.
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: graywolf on October 09, 2009, 05:35:05 AM
Hey, at least he didn't win it for Economics!
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: Clark Kent on October 09, 2009, 06:03:49 AM
So Blagojevich is on the Nobel committee now?   
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: Hazcat on October 09, 2009, 06:13:16 AM


This just shows what a political farce the Peace Prize is. First came Carter and the statement from the committee that it was meant as a rebuke to Bush Sr.

Now a prize that is completely a sham. The nominations had to be in by Feb 1. Obama had been in office 2 weeks and this is for his efforts at starting a world dialog! Pure political BS.
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: crusader rabbit on October 09, 2009, 06:54:21 AM
Hey Haz,

I didn't notice your post until after I posted the same idiocy.

The nomination took place two weeks after Odamna became the occupant of the White House.  WTF did that horse's posterior do in those two weeks (or since) that should even get him noticed by the nominating committee?  It is a FARCE.
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: ericire12 on October 09, 2009, 08:16:57 AM
This is a laugher. Is it April 1st already ???






*Apparently they closed the nominations 2 weeks after he was inaugurated

*They gave him the award based on "his outreach to the Muslim world and attempts to curb nuclear proliferation". In other words, nothing that has tangible peace resulted.

*“Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world’s attention and given its people hope for a better future,” Thorbjoern Jagland, chairman of the Nobel Committee said.

*Lets not forget that Hitler was nominated, and Carter won in 2002

*Also, it is going to be hilarious if they give him this "Peace" award and then a week or two later he decides to ratchet things up in Afghanistan - which I dont think will happen.

*Barack Hussein Obama - Nobel Peace Prize winner, Gun Salesman of the year



Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: Neon Knight Anubis on October 09, 2009, 08:33:24 AM
You're supposed to earn an award before receiving it. Now if he actually got the international community to stop Iran and North Korea, then we could talk about awards, but this is possibly one of the biggest Whiskey Tango Foxtrot moments of the year.....or decade. I would say the biggest but this health care and Cap-and-Trade FUBAR is going to screw us badly.
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: Badgersmilk on October 09, 2009, 08:54:15 AM
Didn't they give that thing to Al Gore to?   ::)

Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: Clark Kent on October 09, 2009, 08:57:42 AM
*Also, it is going to be hilarious if they give him this "Peace" award and then a week or two later he decides to ratchet things up in Afghanistan - which I dont think will happen."

Maybe this is why he's "studying" Gen. McChrystal's request for more troops. 

Ranks right up there on the WTF list with Arafat's Nobel. 
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: Pathfinder on October 09, 2009, 09:38:53 AM
*Also, it is going to be hilarious if they give him this "Peace" award and then a week or two later he decides to ratchet things up in Afghanistan - which I dont think will happen."

Maybe this is why he's "studying" Gen. McChrystal's request for more troops. 

Ranks right up there on the WTF list with Arafat's Nobel. 

Same page this was announced on FoxNews, they also have a 60,000 more troops needed for Afghanistan. Some peace effort.

This calls for the application to the committee of Nobel's other invention.   >:(
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: WatchManUSA on October 09, 2009, 09:42:05 AM
Obama wins Nobel Prize for just showing up?   ::)  ??? :o :D ::)
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: shooter32 on October 09, 2009, 09:44:51 AM
You're supposed to earn an award before receiving it. Now if he actually got the international community to stop Iran and North Korea, then we could talk about awards, but this is possibly one of the biggest Whiskey Tango Foxtrot moments of the year.....or decade. I would say the biggest but this health care and Cap-and-Trade FUBAR is going to screw us badly.


+1
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: ericire12 on October 09, 2009, 09:51:12 AM
MSNBC(D) poll:

http://www.polls.newsvine.com/_question/2009/10/09/3364945-is-president-obama-deserving-of-the-nobel-peace-prize?GT1=43001

62% say he does not deserve it.
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: ericire12 on October 09, 2009, 11:36:25 AM
The Clintons must absolutely despise this guy!
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: ericire12 on October 09, 2009, 11:44:15 AM
DNC says wanyone that ridicules Obama for receiving this prize is a Terrorist sympathizer:

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/09/dnc-if-you-laugh-at-obamas-nobel-you-side-with-terrorists/

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    “The Republican Party has thrown in its lot with the terrorists - the Taliban and Hamas this morning - in criticizing the President for receiving the Nobel Peace prize,” DNC communications director Brad Woodhouse told POLITICO. “Republicans cheered when America failed to land the Olympics and now they are criticizing the President of the United States for receiving the Nobel Peace prize - an award he did not seek but that is nonetheless an honor in which every American can take great pride - unless of course you are the Republican Party.

    “The 2009 version of the Republican Party has no boundaries, has no shame and has proved that they will put politics above patriotism at every turn. It’s no wonder only 20 percent of Americans admit to being Republicans anymore - it’s an embarrassing label to claim,” Woodhouse said.
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 09, 2009, 11:49:06 AM
I wish they had video. I'm curious to know if this idiot actually kept a straight face while spouting this crap.

The Clintons must absolutely despise this guy!

That's the best part of this farce.
Hilly must be smashing furniture  ;D
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: ericire12 on October 09, 2009, 11:50:21 AM
Hilly must be smashing furniture  ;D

I'm sure Bill was probably nominated. He has raised a lot of money and done a great deal of philanthropic work since he left office.

Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 09, 2009, 11:52:31 AM
This is a family site. Let's not be talking about what BJ "raised", OK ?
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: TAB on October 09, 2009, 11:52:52 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_Peace_Prize_laureates


there is alot of BS on that list.  
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: ccd on October 09, 2009, 12:03:39 PM
This will embolden the conspiracy theorists of the world for the next 100 years or so......gee whiz
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: blackwolfe on October 09, 2009, 12:09:40 PM
DNC says wanyone that ridicules Obama for receiving this prize is a Terrorist sympathizer:

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/09/dnc-if-you-laugh-at-obamas-nobel-you-side-with-terrorists/


I guess I'm a terrorist because I think this is BULLSHIT
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 09, 2009, 12:14:24 PM
 At least 3 Terrorists
Begin, Was sentenced to Death for his part in the "Stern Gang's" bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem.
Yasser Arafat of the PLO, Hijackers of aircraft, bombers and assassins.
Nelson Mandela, How can a member of the racist, terrorist, murdering ANC work for "Peace" while spending over 25 years in prison. Or did he just leave the murdering to his wife Winny, who was convicted and is now serving a life sentance for the toture and murder of a suspected informer.
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: jnevis on October 09, 2009, 12:33:26 PM
There may be some good to this though...
Time is publishing a story saying that the Nobel Prize will probably hurt him later on.  Look at the percentage that say he didn't deserve it.  Now there is a expectation that he has to follow through, which we know he won't.  It also feeds into the DNC response.  If they villify the GOP for saying it's wrong, and the people are agreeing, it shows how out of touch they have become.

This will embolden the conspiracy theorists of the world for the next 100 years or so......gee whiz

Ain't that the truth! ;D
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: ratcatcher55 on October 09, 2009, 12:37:03 PM
On A&E Television 9:00 pm Saturday

A special 2 hour segment of Intervention: Nobel Peace Committee gets confronted with the 12 step program to sobriety.
The committee members claim no memory of events after binge drinking 12 pichers of Hazcaritias.
 
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: shooter32 on October 09, 2009, 12:40:18 PM
On A&E Television 9:00 pm Saturday

A special 2 hour segment of Intervention: Nobel Peace Committee gets confronted with the 12 step program to sobriety.
The committee members claim no memory of events after binge drinking 12 pichers of Hazcaritias.
 


Priceless!!  ;D
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: Johnny Bravo on October 09, 2009, 02:30:31 PM
On A&E Television 9:00 pm Saturday

A special 2 hour segment of Intervention: Nobel Peace Committee gets confronted with the 12 step program to sobriety.
The committee members claim no memory of events after binge drinking 12 pichers of Hazcaritias.
 


Now that's funny! Way to go RC.     (http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac157/johnnybravo7/smileys/bravo.gif)
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 09, 2009, 02:35:09 PM
On A&E Television 9:00 pm Saturday

A special 2 hour segment of Intervention: Nobel Peace Committee gets confronted with the 12 step program to sobriety.
The committee members claim no memory of events after binge drinking 12 pichers of Hazcaritias.
 


I see what kind of racist terrorist YOU are.
I'll keep an eye out for you when they send me to the FEMA camp  ;D
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: ericire12 on October 09, 2009, 03:22:34 PM
Joe Scarborough says what everyone is thinking and then the White House calls Joe an "Asshole"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIvbjt4zuf0

Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: ellis4538 on October 09, 2009, 03:40:56 PM
I haven't heard if he has earmarked his cash prize for anything, but I think he should reimburse America the 1 mill + that he wasted trying to get the Olympics!

JMHO

Richard

PS:  NO, HE DIDN'T DESERVE TO WIN IT!!!!!!!!!!!

JMNSHO
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: Clark Kent on October 09, 2009, 03:41:32 PM
Joe Scarborough says what everyone is thinking and then the White House calls Joe an "Asshole"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIvbjt4zuf0

Well, then I'm an asshole, too.  We're the Resistance: Assholes United to Fight Bullshit.
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: ratcatcher55 on October 09, 2009, 03:53:13 PM
I see what kind of racist terrorist YOU are.
I'll keep an eye out for you when they send me to the FEMA camp  ;D

I want the upper bunk ;D
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: Pathfinder on October 09, 2009, 04:04:50 PM
DNC says wanyone that ridicules Obama for receiving this prize is a Terrorist sympathizer racist:

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/09/dnc-if-you-laugh-at-obamas-nobel-you-side-with-terrorists/


FIFY!!!!   ;D
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: twyacht on October 09, 2009, 05:18:13 PM
It's like it's a dream were in,....reality, but not reality,   I can;t wake up from it either,...

Darth Rahm, and his Dr. Bro Ezekial, must be making the Obama Magical Pixie Dust and having it covertly dispersed in the atmosphere.

I'm just still trying to wake up....Where are my red slippers?

"There's no place like home,...There's no place like home",...


 ???
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: blackwolfe on October 09, 2009, 05:19:34 PM
Heard a news story on the radio a few minutes ago about the NPP refering to bHo as the "global messiah".
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: Badgersmilk on October 09, 2009, 05:19:42 PM
http://www.rt.tv/Top_News/2009-09-07/us-arms-sales-double.html

So bama is the worlds leading arms dealer.  To arab's who are the biggest buyers (known for being sensible, peacefull folk  ::))...  And THAT = Peace prize???  ???
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: twyacht on October 09, 2009, 05:29:33 PM
Just to throw it out there, BHO is meeting more and more of the criteria the History Channel presented on the modern coming of the ANTICHRIST!

That's just "f"in great,....
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: philw on October 09, 2009, 05:35:56 PM
http://www.rt.tv/Top_News/2009-09-07/us-arms-sales-double.html

So bama is the worlds leading arms dealer.  To arab's who are the biggest buyers (known for being sensible, peacefull folk  ::))...  And THAT = Peace prize???  ???

not only that  look at what he has done for your local Firearm Sales market........   as Sales man of the Year..
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: 1911 Junkie on October 09, 2009, 09:00:34 PM
Nobel Peace I'm a big pussy Prize.

This is his reward for his "Apologize for America" tour.

I say he deserves bigger things than the USA. Lets give him control of the UN and let him F-up the rest of the world. I'm willing to take my chances with Biden now.
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: PegLeg45 on October 09, 2009, 11:11:40 PM
"After less than one year in office, U.S. President B. H. Obama Wins the Nobel Prize for Peace."



In a grave .............................somewhere..................................Alfred twitched.

Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: philw on October 10, 2009, 01:33:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w9p7L4nS4g&feature=sub
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: Badgersmilk on October 10, 2009, 04:01:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w9p7L4nS4g&feature=sub

 ;D  Good one!

I especially like the subtle "special effect" this guy uses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5RJ1GAeMiQ&feature=related
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: twyacht on October 10, 2009, 05:22:05 AM
Carter, Gore and Obama - the Mount Rushmore of Shut the Hell Up.

Good one!!!
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: Johnny Bravo on October 10, 2009, 11:01:34 AM
The only good thing about BHO is that average americans are getting involved. They have had their fill of BS. BHO and his henchmen are the kings of deceptive BS. Nice post Badger.
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 10, 2009, 11:44:29 AM
;D  Good one!

I especially like the subtle "special effect" this guy uses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5RJ1GAeMiQ&feature=related

I had to post a comment after reading what others had said :

Good video Seth. Continue to tell it like you see it.
Notice that none of the critics are denying any of your points. They hate that you are showing BO for the empty suit that he is. Since they have no facts to support their defense they attack YOU instead.
BO STINKS
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: philw on October 11, 2009, 08:30:11 PM
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,26196226-5006301,00.html

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SELECTING President Barack Obama for the Peace Prize was a political decision of gross stupidity.

WHEN I heard Barack Obama had won this year's Nobel Prize for Peace I was sitting at a meeting with an African friend. He is pretty left wing by any standards and loves Barack Obama.

He turned to me and said, sotto voce, "patronising, very patronising". I thought the decision was really dumb and discredited, maybe fatally, but I asked my friend what he meant. He screwed up his face and said bitterly: "He only won the prize because he's an African-American".

That may be part of the explanation. Barack Obama was nominated after he had been in office for just 11 weeks. Even now, he only has served as President of the U.S. for 8 1/2 months and has not had anything like enough time for his policies to bear fruit.

This was a very bad decision and Barack Obama should have been man enough to refuse the prize. If he had, he would have helped preserve the integrity of the Nobel Peace Prize and also demonstrate a disarming degree of modesty.

How could he have snatched the prize from such people as the great Zimbabwean humanitarian and champion of freedom, Morgan Tsvangiri, or the renowned Greg Mortenson, a former U.S. Army doctor who has set up schools for girls in tough, Taliban-dominated areas of Afghanistan.

These people are real heroes; brave, decent, effective and modest contributors to a better world.

Colombian Senator Piedad Cordoba, who mediated to end the civil war in Colombia, apparently was nominated, too. But he is not on TV every night so he cannot get it.

This year's Nobel Peace Prize has been a hideous display of cynical politics. The blame does not all lie at President Obama's feet. He was, after all, offered the prize by the Nobel Peace Prize Committee.

The Peace Prize process is very different from the procedures used for other Nobel prizes, such as medicine and literature. They are decided by professional academicians but the Peace Prize is awarded by a small committee of Norwegian politicians. That is quite a problem. At the time Alfred Nobel, the Swede who invented dynamite, set up his prizes, Norway was in a political union with Sweden and apparently Mr Nobel thought Norwegian politicians were less corrupt and more humane and visionary than their Swedish counterparts so he determined the Norwegian Parliament should set up a committee and choose the winner.

They have come up with some odd results. Mahatma Gandhi - the father of peaceful protest to free hundreds of millions of people from colonialism - did not win them over. He was not worth it, apparently.

Nor was Winston Churchill who, with his brave people, held out alone in Europe against the Nazis in 1940 and much of 1941 and with Roosevelt, Truman and Stalin won World War II.

Then there was the Cold War. The two heroes who finally brought the curtain down on that were Pope John Paul II and Ronald Reagan. Not them either, apparently.

To be fair, some Nobel Laureates have deserved the honour. Betty Williams and Mairead Corrigan, who led the women's peace marches in Northern Ireland in the 1970s, were worthy winners.

So were Nelson Mandela and F.W. de Klerk. A great favourite of mine, Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, was an excellent choice in 1991 as was Lech Walesa in 1983. But Barack Obama after just nine months in the job?

So who exactly is on this committee which selects the Nobel Prize for Peace?

There are five Norwegian MPs on the committee, three from the left and two from the right. There is a woman called Sissel Ronbeck, who is a Labour MP. In her earlier years she was the chairman of the Norwegian Workers Youth League. Then there is Ms Agot Valle, of the Socialist Left Party. There is a Conservative and a member of the libertarian Progress Party. And then there's the chairman, the most important of all the members of the committee. He is a man called Thorbjorn Jagland.

Mr Jagland was once prime minister of Norway and became the foreign minister. He is a member of the Norwegian Labour Party.

In 2001, you will recall there was a standoff between the Australian Government and a Norwegian ship, the Tampa. The Tampa had picked up several people who were trying to get to Australia from Indonesia. The Government told the Tampa it had to take the people to Indonesia, that is, back to where they came from. The ship's captain, on instructions from Norway's then government, said it would not. They had to land in Australia.

One cold Canberra night I was snug in bed when my phone rang at 2am. It was foreign minister Jagland. I politely told him it was a little late for me although, no doubt, a pleasant early evening in Oslo. He started shouting. He hardly needed a phone from Norway. He "ordered" me to accept the ship into an Australian port. I politely explained our policy about stopping people smugglers and said the asylum seekers would be safe in Indonesia where they would be processed by the UNHCR. Not good enough, he yelled. The Tampa was going to land them in Australia. I told him it was not. It did not.

This Thorbjorn Jagland was a real party-political player. He was Labour, we were Liberal. He good, we bad. What a surprise; the same man has made the worst decision in Nobel Peace Prize history as he hated George W. Bush and Barack Obama is an African-American. He has done real damage to the institution.

You cannot help a fool.


* Alexander Downer was Minister for Foreign Affairs from 1996 to 2007
Title: Re: don't think this is Nobel at all
Post by: Broke_and_Broken on October 12, 2009, 02:51:51 AM
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,26196226-5006301,00.html


That about sums it up perfectly and proves what a joke they have made of the Nobel Peace Prize!