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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Sghiandhu on October 12, 2009, 06:22:47 PM

Title: CA Ammo Bill AB962 signed by Governor; CA Cow Palace Gun Show Ban will be law
Post by: Sghiandhu on October 12, 2009, 06:22:47 PM
Hi,

Governor Schwartzenegger has signed AB962 which will severely affect the sale procedures of handgun ammunition in California <http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/asm/ab_0951-1000/ab_962_bill_20090921_enrolled.pdf (http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/asm/ab_0951-1000/ab_962_bill_20090921_enrolled.pdf)>. He returned a signing message giving his reasons and saying he is pleased to sign it. <http://gov.ca.gov/pdf/press/2009bills/AB962_DeLeon_Signing_Message.pdf (http://gov.ca.gov/pdf/press/2009bills/AB962_DeLeon_Signing_Message.pdf)>

He apparently neither signed nor vetoed SB585 which prohibits gun shows at The Cow Palace (an agricultural exhibition hall venue on the County line) which effectively eliminates the opportunity to see in any quantity and buy firearms. Under California law, this bill not having been vetoed is permitted to go into law automatically.

Both measures would have effect from January 1st, 2010, although the fingerprinting/recordkeeping requirements of AB962 would be on February 1st, 2011.

All handgun ammunition sales would be face-to-face; recorded proof of identity, etc.; and thumbprinting of purchaser. No mail order or Internet sales. The earlier proposal to limit to 50 rounds per month was taken out of the watered-down version that was passed. Informal sharing, or reloading for friends, was argued, but is unclear now as this concerns sales by licensed handgun ammunition vendor sales. Prohibited persons may not buy handgun ammunition or have it transfered to them.
Title: Re: CA Ammo Bill AB962 signed by Governor; CA Cow Palace Gun Show Ban will be law
Post by: Sghiandhu on October 12, 2009, 06:35:34 PM
Hi,

It seems that SB585 Cow Palace Gun Show Ban will be NOT be law

When I checked the state websites, I did not find SB 585 by search, and when looking at the list, did not see it. I've found on another website <http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=26011&forum_id=12&jump_to=551438 (http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=26011&forum_id=12&jump_to=551438)>an official link to a VETO message for "The Cow Palace" measure: <http://gov.ca.gov/index.php?/press-release/13564/ (http://gov.ca.gov/index.php?/press-release/13564/)>.

I apologize for misreporting; I made a good faith effort to check only official results, and apparently erred. :(
Title: Re: CA Ammo Bill AB962 signed by Governor; CA Cow Palace Gun Show Ban will be law
Post by: Hazcat on October 12, 2009, 09:16:53 PM
Good news!  And thanks for the diligent updates.
Title: Re: CA Ammo Bill AB962 signed by Governor; CA Cow Palace Gun Show Ban will be law
Post by: Magnum on October 12, 2009, 09:22:35 PM
So, no more mail-order ammo for citizens of California??? And you have to be fingerprinted to buy ammo in the state???
WOW.....................
Title: Re: CA Ammo Bill AB962 signed by Governor; CA Cow Palace Gun Show Ban will be law
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 12, 2009, 10:01:14 PM
So, no more mail-order ammo for citizens of California??? And you have to be fingerprinted to buy ammo in the state???
WOW.....................


More for the rest of us    ;D
Seriously, Just because Ca. has all those people does not  automatically mean the impact will be in proportion to the numbers, It only effects the GUN SHOOTING  population, a very much smaller number.
Title: Re: CA Ammo Bill AB962 signed by Governor; CA Cow Palace Gun Show Ban will be law
Post by: 73Bronco on October 13, 2009, 09:49:30 AM
I called and made my opinion known but I guess the Governator didn't listen. I can't wait to get out of this state!
Title: Re: CA Ammo Bill AB962 signed by Governor; CA Cow Palace Gun Show Ban will be law
Post by: TAB on October 13, 2009, 12:27:12 PM

More for the rest of us    ;D
Seriously, Just because Ca. has all those people does not  automatically mean the impact will be in proportion to the numbers, It only effects the GUN SHOOTING  population, a very much smaller number.


I bet we have more NRA members then NH has population.  Mail order companys will see a drop in th ebottom line.
Title: Re: CA Ammo Bill AB962 signed by Governor; CA Cow Palace Gun Show Ban will be law
Post by: Woody on October 14, 2009, 09:00:09 PM
 Californians, your rights have been ERASED. Who else but the Terminator?