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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Badgersmilk on October 16, 2009, 07:29:55 AM
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What's the man shooting here?
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1874 Sharps....
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assault rifle
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1874 Sharps....
Nope.
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1860 Henry
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Nope.
Well, ya better tell Blondie cuz, that's what HE thought it was. Unless of course you don't believe nearly every link to the movie that references that particular scene!
Show your proof.....
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Clint Eastwood westerns were USUALLY pretty good about using era appropriate weapons. Since "The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly takes place before April 1865 I doubt if it is an 1874 anything. There were other breech loading rifles available such as the Spencer, Ballard, and Burnside. I seem to recall there being an Earlier version "2 Trigger" Sharps used by Union snipers, I could be wrong about that.
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Then how about an 1863 Sharps?
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Clint Eastwood westerns were USUALLY pretty good about using era appropriate weapons. Since "The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly takes place before April 1865 I doubt if it is an 1874 anything. There were other breech loading rifles available such as the Spencer, Ballard, and Burnside. I seem to recall there being an Earlier version "2 Trigger" Sharps used by Union snipers, I could be wrong about that.
I never said it was correct for the period Tom. I suggest that anything out of the Italian "Spaghetti Westerns" in the '60's might just be as inaccurate as a the DC-3 flying in the background. Those old westerns were terrible, entertaining but terribly produced. I believe there is one scene were Wallach is breaking open a Colt 1917 Revolver.....kinda tough to do in 1865...
Lee VanCleef, Clint and Eli didn't win any acting awards for those old movies either but they did probably have fun making them.
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they used a 1866 Yellow boy with the front stock taken off so it looked like a 1860 Henry in the opening scene but used a 1874 Sharps later in the film
This information comes from IMFDB web site
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Not really on topic but interesting
http://pabucktail.com/Reference/coates.htm
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What's the man shooting here?
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Sharps 1874 - .45-70. (clicck image below) - http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:Sharps1874.jpg
The movie The Good, the Bad and the Ugly was criticized for not having era appropriate guns. See link: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/In_the_good_the_bad_and_the_ugly_did_they_use_black_powder_pistols_or_bp_cartridge_pistols
and - http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=The_Good%2C_The_Bad%2C_and_The_Ugly
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http://www.mcpheetersantiquemilitaria.com/02_firearms/02_item_016.htm
Spencer Sporting Rifle
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Close, but there is no forearm band on Clints rifle....I'm sticking with my original suggestion.
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http://www.mcpheetersantiquemilitaria.com/02_firearms/02_item_016.htm
Spencer Sporting Rifle
Nope! Check out the movie reference link: http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Good%2C_The_Bad%2C_and_The_Ugly%2C_The
The Spencer you identify does not have a ladder elevated sight. The gun Eastwood has in the picture does not have a metal attachment ring on the barrel handguard. As noted before the guns used in the film are not all period authentic. All the guns in this film were supplied by Aldo Uberti Inc. of Italy.
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Next time I'm in Carmel, I'll stop by Clints place and ask him!
Sometimes you see him playing Pebble as well! Great guy, too bad he never made anything of himself!
;D
Gran Torino is a great flick, see it for some WWII pieces...
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Nope! Check out the movie reference link: http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Good%2C_The_Bad%2C_and_The_Ugly%2C_The
The Spencer you identify does not have a ladder elevated sight. The gun Eastwood has in the picture does not have a metal attachment ring on the barrel handguard. As noted before the guns used in the film are not all period authentic. All the guns in this film were supplied by Aldo Uberti Inc. of Italy.
That's an AWSOME site! Thanks for the link. I spent a while looking at all the cool pic's and info. Dirt bag as he was, you HAD to like Tuco a little. :)
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He's shooting a gun. DUH!!! ;D
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He's shooting a gun. DUH!!! ;D
I thought that was a gun. ;D It looks like a Sharps to me.
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He's shooting a gun. DUH!!! ;D
Some smart donkey beat me to it. It's bigger than a pistol and smaller that a howitzer...
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Good topic ! ;D what else do you have ?
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Try THIS on for size!
It was in at least one movie... What is it? And who used it in what movie?
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It's a Wildey and it was used by Charles Bronsen in Death Wish
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That one was kind of easy. A lot of us REMEMBER "Death Wish" ;D
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I think the Wildey was used in Deathwish III but not the earlier movies.
BM, what's that rifle that looks like a Sharps? If you said already I missed it.
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Here's an odd one I just pulled from the back of the old Liberty Gun safe.......... ::)
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Blade Runner blaster.
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Nice work Frank!!
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Sharps 1874 - .45-70. (clicck image below) - http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Image:Sharps1874.jpg
The movie The Good, the Bad and the Ugly was criticized for not having era appropriate guns. See link: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/In_the_good_the_bad_and_the_ugly_did_they_use_black_powder_pistols_or_bp_cartridge_pistols
and - http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=The_Good%2C_The_Bad%2C_and_The_Ugly
There is a scene in the movie where you see the actor (can't remember which one) handling cartridges and when you see the revolver it has nipples for caps.
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Ah Ha! You will be stumped!
What gun? And what movie?!?
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Hint: They shouldn't have woodland camo on those helmets yet.
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:-\Hmmm - looks kinda like a Win M1200 at the back end but without the heat shield & bayonet lug at the front........but if it's from a movie, who knows?
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The forearm looks wrong for a M1200. Trigger guard front doesn't look right for a Model 12, the Ithica ejected out the bottom and the 870 had a thicker, longer forearm. Could be a Mossy but, it doesn't look like one.
I'm going with the Stevens Model 77.
The movie? Too many bad Viet Nam movies to list. No clue!
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Nope, not a 1200, or 77.
Another hint. It's not just a movie gun, their real. Half the people here probably have guns made by this company (even my mother in law does). And it was made in the U.S..
Here's the Police version.
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This one looks to have an aftermarket recoil pad... Not sure about forearm. :-\
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Shot gun is a Rem 870
Movie is Rambo (First blood I )
Just guessing.
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I think all 870's have two slide bars and that doesn't - I'm going with some sorta Mossberg?........but then again that would hardly seem to encompass about half the folks here
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No external extractor on an 870.
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Here's an 870 that I call my "Reverse Wilson" :)
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It MIGHT Be a Mossberg , but the bolt doesn't look quite like mine.
Maybe Fox, or Savage.
Movie maybe, Deer Hunter, or Apocalypse Now. I didn't see either movie and this pic doesn't ring any bells ;D
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I don't think the two pictures are the same model of gun. The forward pin holding the trigger assembly is more forward on the "police version". The forearms are definately not the same. The most common pump gun in history is the 870 and it's most definately not one of those.
Do you have confirmation BM or are you just throwing stuff out there like the Sharps picture?
I'm sticking with the Stevens 77e.
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Savage 67
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I still don't know, and the overall shape & trigger group pin location seems very similar to a savage 67 but I remember their extractors being quite a bit shorter. MP
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The first picture looks like an early Mossberg, Look at the barrel nut where it joins to the magazine tube. The second gun is a different brand/model. Maybe an older S&W shotgun
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You got it Major! But they are both Smith & Wesson 916's
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=1968_Tunnel_Rats
http://www.joesalter.com/detail.php?f_qryitem=7361
That man knows his scatter guns!
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Good job Majer! , I thought they recalled all those 916's for some reason. Who made those things anyway? MP
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What is the pretty lady holding?
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At that very moment? His balls.
Can't quite make it out clearly at this late hour.....looks like a starter's pistol....... ;D
Is that Charlton Heston?
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It looks like a S&W "Lemon squeezer" or maybe a H&R top break
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Not Heston and not a starters, lemon squeezer or H&R Break top pistol. It would cause a big sleep if used correctly.
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Colt ?
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Nope. Her name was Carmen in the film. A very, very bad girl.
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Here is a better picture.
For extra points name the picture.
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Markings on the grip make me think it is an Iver Johnson.
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Markings on the grip make me think it is an Iver Johnson.
Yep. Which One, including caliber?
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.32?
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Carmen Sternwood (Martha Vickers) holding a Iver Johnson .32 Revolver on Joe Brody (Louis Jean Heydt) Thanks to www.imfdb.org
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Markings on the grip make me think it is an Iver Johnson.
DANG! Where did that come from!?! I knew the guy made bicycles and shot guns (I've had an OLD Iver Johnson 12 ga). Didn't know about his hand guns.
I'd guess it's a .32 as well.
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Carmen Sternwood (Martha Vickers) holding a Iver Johnson .32 Revolver on Joe Brody (Louis Jean Heydt) Thanks to www.imfdb.org
We have a winner! She reminded me of a couple of girls I dated before I married. I was an ass but they were crazy.
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BM, Check this out. Motorcycles and .50 cals as well. ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iver_Johnson
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Holy crap!!!
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The only think I'd ever heard about the guy was he originally made bicycles in a small garage, then moved on to make "a few" different models of shotguns. I can't believe I gave my 12ga. away because the flat metal trigger spring finally broke in it. Cool looking gun, it had a unique bluing on the barrel. Hard to describe, like thin worn, blue / black chrome, and case blued receiver. Very well crafted gun.
Cool link, thanks!
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They were considered a "cheap" gun , a "Saturday night special" so poor people could be safe too.
My Aunt had a Iver Johnson back in the 60's and I would say that the workmanship was as good or better than a modern Charter Arms, finish was definitely better.