Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: TAB on October 16, 2009, 01:01:09 PM
Title: High school in chicago...
Post by: TAB on October 16, 2009, 01:01:09 PM
Why Are 1 Of 8 Girls Pregnant At Robeson High? Officials Say A Mix Of Factors Are To Blame, As They Try To Help The Young Women Reporting Kristyn Hartman CHICAGO (CBS) ― Click to enlarge1 of 1 About one in eight girls at Robeson High School are pregnant. Officials say a variety of factors are to blame.
It is a Chicago public school full of energy and spirit. It has about 800 girls, and 115 of them have something in common – something you might find disturbing.
CBS 2's Kristyn Hartman reports.
All those young ladies are moms or moms-to-be at Paul Robeson High School. It's not a school for young mothers, it's a neighborhood school. And all of the pregnancies have happened, despite prevention talk.
If you want to know why, the people closest to the situation say there's no simple explanation.
Chicago Public Schools says it does not track the overall number of teen moms in the district. But Robeson Principal Gerald Morrow knows the count at his school in Englewood: 115 young ladies who are expecting.
To put it in perspective, their school pictures would fill roughly six pages of their high school year book.
Why is it happening at Robeson?
"It can be a lot of things that are happening in the home or not happening in the home, if you will," Morrow said. Absentee fathers are another factor, he said.
LaDonna Denson and two other Robeson students say parents not talking to teens and, in some cases, the pursuit of public assistance also factor into the pregnancies. None of them thought they'd be moms at such a young age.
They said they have support at home. But not all girls do, they said. In fact, some girls get thrown out of the home.
Not on Morrow's turf. "We're not looking at them like 'Ooh you made a mistake,'" he said. "We're looking at how we can get them to the next phase, how can we still get them thinking about graduation?"
So there's help in a teen parent program. And coming soon, right across from Robeson, developers are turning a one-time crack house into a day care for student use. "We have to provide some type of environment for them and some form of support for them," Van Vincent, CEO of VLV Development, said.
It's all made an impression.
"Just cause you have a baby, that doesn't mean your life is over," one student said.
One thing they might not know about their principal: His mom had him when she was 15. That's why accepting the problem -- and working through it -- is so important to him.
Title: Re: High school in chicago...
Post by: MikeBjerum on October 16, 2009, 01:12:02 PM
Why Are 1 Of 8 Girls Pregnant At Robeson High? Officials Say A Mix Of Factors Are To Blame,
Officials,
If you don't understand the one and only reason these girls are pregnant you need to update your biology classes.
TAB,
If you don't understand the one and only reason these girls are pregnant you need to talk to your avatars or maybe we should be concerned about your new bride.
Sad commentary on the state of the families of this school district when 12.5% of your female students, the accompanying number of males, and the numbers that have used abortion to avoid this situation are starting out their adult lives this way :'(
I'm not saying that accidents don't happen and poor decisions made even in the best of families, but this is beyond the level of what I would expect in normal life.
Title: Re: High school in chicago...
Post by: TAB on October 16, 2009, 01:14:00 PM
We are trying very hard NOT to get her knocked up...
Title: Re: High school in chicago...
Post by: MikeBjerum on October 16, 2009, 01:15:37 PM
We are trying very hard NOT to get her knocked up...
You are practicing tho I assume ;D
After reading this reply I really do need to get a life
Title: Re: High school in chicago...
Post by: ericire12 on October 16, 2009, 01:17:17 PM
Its just one more in a long list of problems in Chicago...... bHo couldnt do a damn thing to fix Chicago, but he is who the American people thought was best to "Change" our country ??? Hey Barry, why dont you get your own house in order first before you start tinkering with our "fundamentally flawed nation"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11OhmY1obS4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvJJP9AYgqU
Title: Re: High school in chicago...
Post by: MikeBjerum on October 16, 2009, 01:24:00 PM
Its just one more in a long list of problems in Chicago...... bHo couldnt do a damn thing to fix Chicago, but he is who the American people thought was best to "Change" our country ??? Hey Barry, why dont you get your own house in order first before you start tinkering with our "fundamentally flawed nation"
I know this is leading to a thread drift, but that is what we are best at around here unless Ron P is keeping an eye on us. However I needs to know, what is the flaw in our Constitution? Additionally, WHAT THE F*** DOES HE MEAN BY CALLING THE CONSTITUTION "A FINE POLITICAL DOCUMENT" ?
Title: Re: High school in chicago...
Post by: ericire12 on October 16, 2009, 01:31:14 PM
I know this is leading to a thread drift, but that is what we are best at around here unless Ron P is keeping an eye on us. However I needs to know, what is the flaw in our Constitution? Additionally, WHAT THE F*** DOES HE MEAN BY CALLING THE CONSTITUTION "A FINE POLITICAL DOCUMENT" ?
Flaw: Its Racists -- seriously, that is why he is always preaching social justice and redistribution.
"Fine political document": it was a back handed compliment to disguise the fact that he was dumping (pun intended) all over the Constitution.
*Yes, he hates America.
Title: Re: High school in chicago...
Post by: MikeBjerum on October 16, 2009, 01:37:29 PM
Eric, while I am truly humbled by the award of the day, I need your mailing address, because my wife is going to send you the bills for my stroke that you just triggered!
Title: Re: High school in chicago...
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 16, 2009, 02:16:28 PM
FTA ; Why is it happening at Robeson?
Irresponsible slut mothers raising irresponsible slut daughters ?
FTA ; "Just cause you have a baby, that doesn't mean your life is over," one student said.
You can always go on welfare and let the tax payers support you.
BO hates America, and BO hates US.
The President is a Traitor. BO can go f-ck himself.
Title: Re: High school in chicago...
Post by: Pathfinder on October 16, 2009, 03:27:41 PM
I posted this over at the forum on survivalpodcast.com:
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"Just cause you have a baby, that doesn't mean your life is over," one student said.
One thing they might not know about their principal: His mom had him when she was 15. That's why accepting the problem -- and working through it -- is so important to him.
In this day an age, yes, it pretty much does mean that your life is over, especially if you're looking to get on the gummint dole. I would guess that success stories are few and far between, especially in that community.
Bill Cosby caught holy hell from the "black community" for pointing out the known reality - ca. 75% of black families are out of wedlock, most with no man in the mix - except for the conception. That is the one significant fact. And as for the asshat principal and the article's reference to why this is so important, that is known as the circle of failure, just like the gummint dole. You should have learned that it is not OK for babies to have babies, and you damn well better start teaching your men to man up - as a school, as a culture, and as a community. But as long as the "gangstas" are praised and set up as icons to be emulated, nothing will change. Nothing!
Teen pregnancies have been a long-standing problem in Chicago and Cook County, not much new, just new publicity. Even the HS my kids went to in uber-lib Evanston (upper middle class with a poverty section) had a daycare facility - for the students! I think some of the teachers had kids there, but mainly the kids were students' babies. They were overwhelmingly from the black community.
Title: Re: High school in chicago...
Post by: PegLeg45 on October 16, 2009, 03:54:00 PM
Another sad reflection of the declining morality and poor upbringing in the US. It's not just Chicago, either, it's everywhere you look. You can't go out in public anymore (even in small towns) without seeing half a dozen teen-aged mothers or mothers-to-be. Many of them think it's the cool thing to do.
Title: Re: High school in chicago...
Post by: MikeBjerum on October 16, 2009, 04:05:20 PM
When I started college in 1991 my eyes were open to the reallity I already knew - at that time we were in third generation welfare families: Grandpa and Grandma had received welfare for the hand up it was intended; mom and dad expanded it to more usage and some made a career of it; and the grandchildren were now following in the "family business." That was 18 years ago, and we have now added a fourth generation.
I'm often called cruel and unfeeling, but it is time to break the cycle. Welfare is for a hand up, a way to get people back on their feet and on to the freedom available to them, and to allow for more than the community network (family, friends and churches) can afford. We need strict limits on how much is available to any individual or family, how long they can get it, and what they can do with it (can anyone say drug and alcohol testing to receive your benefits). Mentoring is another thing these people need. They need possitive roll models in their lives, and mentoring programs should also be maditory.
Until we put responsibility in the program we will see young people that either don't care about the ramifications of their actions, or see "breeding" as an upward carreer move.
Title: Re: High school in chicago...
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 16, 2009, 04:12:16 PM
Welfare should be administered at the LOCAL level so that it goes to those who NEED it rather than those who are to lazy to steal. Also if you are enrolled in an "entitlement program" you can not vote.
Title: Re: High school in chicago...
Post by: Hazcat on October 16, 2009, 04:24:04 PM
Welfare should be administered at the LOCAL level so that it goes to those who NEED it rather than those who are to lazy to steal. Also if you are enrolled in an "entitlement program" you can not vote.
and you have to pass a piss test.
Title: Re: High school in chicago...
Post by: Bic on October 16, 2009, 04:25:12 PM
I recently overheard a young, unmarried mother, barmaid giving the following advice to a waitress of similar age who was bemoaning her lack of income......."Have a kid, have two - you'll about double your money!" :'(
Title: Re: High school in chicago...
Post by: fightingquaker13 on October 16, 2009, 10:20:03 PM
iIdo support the daycare as if these girls don't graduate they will be on the dole for life and those kids will either wind up in jail or doing the same damn thing. The idea of a piss test and requiring them to show attendence and satisfactory progress should added too. The one big reform I want to see though, is getting the fathers to pay their share. Before you get the dole you have to name the father. Do a mandatory DNA test and then the state should haul him into court to get child support assigned which will go to reimburse the taxpayers. These guys may not want to do the right thing and be a dad, but they will have that payment every month for 18 years,enforced by the courts under deadbeat dad laws. That might make them at least buy a damn condom. As it is, they skate scott freeand the girl, the kid and her mother, as well as the taxpayer take the hit. That needs to stop. At the very least the horny little suckers can pay right along with the rest of us. >:( FQ13.