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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: Badgersmilk on October 16, 2009, 11:24:20 PM
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http://www.thesunnews.com/news/local/story/1120403.html
I should be starting a petition to be sure the officer gets an award for this! It happened in my kid's school today! We saw it on the news at about 11:30am. Sent my daughter a text asking what was going on. She said they annonced over the load speaker "This is NOT a drill. The whole school is now on lock down. Close and lock all classroom doors and windows." That's all they knew. They kept the kids in their home rooms all day watching movies. Police had the school blocked off so much there was a line close to a mile long of parents trying to get there (we were in communication with my daughter on her cell phone, and she was fine with staying where she was... Just as well, we couldnt do anything about it!).
The cheapest house I've seen ANYWHERE in this school district is still about $120K. There aren't any getto's kids in this school would be living in. Yet one week ago in the next county some 12 year old boy had gasoline dumped on him and he was lit on fire outside school! 3rd degree burnes all over him, probably won't make it. The week before that some other school made the news because a gang of black girls beat a white girl almost to death (cracked her skull, broke several bones) over a boyfriend.
What the hell??? We just moved here a few months ago... Looks like we'll be moving again if kids are this NUTS around here! What's wrong with these little FREAKS? :o
"The school has seen violence before. In May 2006, 18-year-old student Natalia Holmes was fatally stabbed 15 times by her estranged boyfriend in the parking lot. Edwin Brown pleaded guilty to murder and is serving a life sentence."
Conway, the town not to far west of here is pretty old and dumpy, but no way those kids should be in this school. I don't get it!
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Glad to hear your daughter is ok, and that she handled the day well!
A lot of pain for several, including the student's family and the officer and his family. I hope all come through it alright.
I'm sure it will be more rumors and knee jerk reactions than rational reasoning for a while, but I hope the truth comes through.
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Thanks! The kids in my daughters class, and even the teacher had no idea what happened other than a "lock down" until all the kids snuck out their cell phones and started texting parents hours after the shooting (using cell phones normally get the kids suspended). My wife and I were WAY more shocked over the whole thing than her. Her biggest problem with the whole thing was about having to watch "March of the Penguin's"! ;D
Makes me feel good she's that level headed... I guess the dead kid was autistic, and in special ed. But this is the third psychotic kid story we've seen in three weeks here! I'm still at a loss... It's a very clean cut, middle class, older community around here. We used to live in Michigan, and got Detroit news on tv. STILL never even heard of anyting like this stuff! :-\
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Glad your daughter's fine.
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Give her an extra hug, BM............. I'm glad she's OK.
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BM,
Glad your daughter is OK. I am sure you have spoken to her before on how to handle these situations as your a 'gun nut Dad' ;) .
As far as the incident this is what comes from be 'inclusive' and putting kids that should be in special schools in with the regular kids.
As far as 'income to violence', it doesn't matter. Spoiled little rich kids are just as dangerous as thugs and many want to be 'thugs' like the 'rap artists' they listen to.
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Thanks guys!
I just can't wrap my brain around kids going to these extremes. Setting another kid on fire! :o
REALLY brings to light the talk about todays kids being "desensitized" by movies and tv. I used to think it was just crap talk, but now...
I'd like the chance to talk to that officer and thank him for his bravery in doing what was necessary for the safety of himself and the others.
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BM:
Glad your daughter is ok. This is one of those situations that goes to prove that anything can happen anywhere, at anytime. After all, isn't that the reason we carry?
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My sympathy is with your Daughter, I would rather be tear gassed and shot at than watch "March of the Penguins".
What Haz says is true, remember that America's first notorious "thrill killers" Leopold and Loeb in the 20's, were spoiled rich kids.
http://www.stageclick.com/show/10067.aspx
But it's good to see how the "gun free zone" signs are cutting right down on violence .
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But it's good to see how the "gun free zone" signs are cutting right down on violence .
Absolutely. But had it also been a KNIFE free zone it never woulda happened.
sarcasm alert.
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Glad your beloved is OK. It's the school and it's socialist teachings and policies. A gun free zone is a free target zone. But wait, he had a gun, and it was nipped in the bud. Proof right there that guns in the wrong hands kill, but in the right hands protect life. What do the parents have to say?
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Nobody I've heard is faulting the officer at all! I AM shocked. But most parents and kids have met the guy, and he just a really nice person to know! Most of the parents are talking about "What is the school going to do about preventing this next time?". The school used to have two armed guards, they will now have three. I'd like it to be many more than that! But three does beat two.
I still look forward to thanking the officer in person!
If it were me, and getting stabed would get me out of watching "March of the Penguins"... So long as it was just in the arm or something... I'd let the kid cut me! ;D
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BM, so glad it all worked out the way it did, could have been very different, and I for 1 am glad it did not. As you have seen the previous posters agree. Nobody can be everywhere, all the time, Your daughter it would seem , had her wits, and her training, and a damn good family in reserve. Even in this PC world, she did her best to contact her family and succeeded, maybe not the best, but, enough. God bless you man, and family. That was too close.
Training works.
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I would suggest if you are able to, to take you kids out of the government schools. There is a filter in place there. The kids may not dig it, but the education is better and teachers are more responsive.
As far as prevention, there are no easy answers. Not to be flippant, but this is the price of a free society. On of the most "secure" places in the country is prison, and we all know how safe prisons are... As someone mentioned earlier in the thread, income does not preclude the occasional nut.
I'm glad to hear your younin's are level headed and safe, and hang in there. Anything is better than Michigan at present.
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I give a partial and conditional second to Brosmetal here. Government schools (otherwise known as public schools and the back bone of this republic since colonial days) are ok in the most part. The downside is they do tend, out f necessity, to teach to the lowest common denominator. This was reinforced by W and Kennedy's No Child Left Behind Act that actually mandated this and shifted resources to remedial ed rather than AP classes. If you do go private, choose based on the excellence of the education, not ideology. Giving your kids good values is your job, not the teachers. Too many parenys look to put their kids in schools of whatever idelogical stripe, that are designed to produce an "amen chorus" rather than critical thnkers. What you want is a place that demands academic excellence, hard work, questions every belief, and will provide the individual attention your child needs to think for themselves. Absent this, you're wasting money.
FQ13
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I'm glad your daughter is ok...it's a LOT different when something happens RIGHT HERE!
Sadly, crazy kids are a part of crazy humanity, and sometimes there's nothing to be done. This is a good lesson for the whining liberals that we can't all just sit down over a muffin and some herbal tea and get along. There are times when people need to defend themselves and when reason is not of any use.
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I don't usually "air out" family matters in public this way, and even held off on mentioning it at all, but this really is a case I'd like as many people to know about as possible. The press talks and talks about any instance where a gun is used against the masses, trying to paint a picture of how "dark and evil" guns and any person associated with them surely is. Of the parents Ive talked to, and others I've heard talk, nobody has anything left wing to say about a gun being used when it involved the safety of their kids!
Had the officer been restricted to carrying no weapon (like in many schools), and the kid shot him down... This would have been on every news channel in the country. >:( >:( >:(
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Thanks for a great post BM. Your not airing laundry. You are informing others. You're among friends here.