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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: david86440 on October 24, 2009, 07:21:45 PM
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WASHINGTON - In a major step to end the exclusion of Sikhs, the US Army has accepted a Sikh recruit, Captain Kamaljeet Singh Kalsi, who had declined to either remove his ‘dastaar’ (turban) or cut his hair as a condition for joining the military.
A number of prominent members of Congress have called on the Army to welcome all Sikhs, and not just Captain Kalsi, into the military.
In August, 43 members of the House of Representatives and 6 US senators called on Defence Secretary Robert Gates to allow all Sikhs to serve in the US Army.
http://blog.taragana.com/n/us-army-accepts-first-sikh-recruit-205483/
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Good, let 'em serve!
Gonna suck going through boot with a full beard though! Sikh are generally from India with their religian based in Hindi or Hindu!
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They have a history as a tough bunch of warriors who formed the core of the British Indian Army. I understand that each Sikh winds a tiny dagger into his turban because it violates their religion for a Man to be unarmed.
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Wonder if he'll take that turban off for a combat helmet if there's incoming..
Good.. Seems like a fast track to Capt. but, if he can pass muster, than In A Gadda Da Vida Baby!!
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If I understand correctly, the guy is a doctor. I think Capt. is the lowest rank he can enter with.
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Here's the skinny on the knife.....
Sikh men wear a traditional knife, called a kirpan, as a symbol of baptism. The knife can be used only for self-defense or in defense of those who cannot defend themselves.
• Because Sikhs aspire to live natural lives, men do not cut their hair or shave their beards.
• Sikh men must wear turbans.
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We've had a couple residents at the hospital who wore turbans. Don't know what they were, though.
Now, I guess, I'll have to look for the knife. 8)
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Sikhs make up the majority of the Indian armed forces and police forces relative to their population. Known as a group to be rather obstinante. There relatively new religion was an attempt to merge existing religions in India. Generally they are the most like americans of any of the groups in Indian in there attitudes - they populate the most progression region of India. They make up a large recent immigration group in Canada. In WW II were very active in the British armed forces.
PS the turban (very long cloth) has been used as an escape rope among other things in emergencies. Sort of like Indian boy scouts - be prepared.
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Sikhs make up the majority of the Indian armed forces and police forces relative to their population. Known as a group to be rather obstinante. There relatively new religion was an attempt to merge existing religions in India. Generally they are the most like americans of any of the groups in Indian in there attitudes - they populate the most progression region of India. They make up a large recent immigration group in Canada. In WW II were very active in the British armed forces.
PS the turban (very long cloth) has been used as an escape rope among other things in emergencies. Sort of like Indian boy scouts - be prepared.
Sounds like a culture we should be actively inviting to immigrate.
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Looks like an asset, doctor or not, to an American Fighting Force.
21st Century Sikh Soldiers, tough bunch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwEHrIOwkKE
Best to keep them on OUR side.
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I love that tune. Bulls on parade. " Rally round the family, with a pocket full of shells "
Very interesting allowing sikh soldiers in their normal dress, I am not totally opposed, but it does disturb normal US soldier protocol. Skinning a new recruit down, is part of the process of saying, you work for us now, and this is how we do it. Everyone is treated the same, and you either bitch together, or accept together, for or against the machine, that is Team Building. You gang together for a common goal, whether it is for or against the status quo at the time. Hopefully in the end, you are a team. And on our side. The United States of course.
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Found another one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtTOB8L6XRo&feature=related
These seem like OUR kind of folks .
It is worth noting that like the Irish, the Sikh gives his loyalty to the country he lives in, not "The old country".
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Hey Tom,
I think you would fit in quite nicely with them...... ;)
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Maybe, but you've never seen me with a beard .
Old Chinese guys laugh at me and say "OOh, That a shitty beard round eye" ;D
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www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Quizzes/BeliefOMatic.aspx
I took this little quiz ( I think it was this one, there are several) a couple of years ago - basically a "What religion Are You Really? type o'thing and it turned out that i should be Sikh as probably should many people posting here. I don't know if they're accepting new members or whether i could ever learn to tie that thing around my head............but there it is.
What surprised (and annoyed) me most was that a month or so before taking the quiz I'd had an.....let's say 'interesting' discussion with a British, dastaar clad immigration official upon my arrival at Gatwick, travelling on a British passport, as to whether or not I should be allowed to enter my native country!
No hard feelings to the rest of 'em i guess,
MP
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I think I should go to their Nagar Kirtan next weekend and perhaps I can learn something about my neighbors.
They really are nice people, plus I could use a new religion.
http://ypdtv.com/sikhtemple/2009/10/10/yuba-city-sikh-parade-nagar-kirtan-november-1-2009/
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96% Maybe I need to do some research ;D
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96% Maybe I need to do some research ;D
Um, check out the women. Almost enough (not really) to make a good Christian jump ship. ;D ;D ;D
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Um, check out the women. Almost enough (not really) to make a good Christian jump ship. ;D ;D ;D
I tell you, some of the Sikh women in this town are really, really nice. Looks wise, personality wise, and walk 8 steps behind their men.
What more could you ask for? ;)
If you like your women wit a little extra hair....
The Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandak Committee (SGPC) had also ruled that she was not a “true Sikh as she was plucking her eyebrows.” .
Girls Who Plucked Eyebrow Are Not True Sikh as keeping unshorn hair was an essential and most fundamental component of the religion for men and women.
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I think I should go to their Nagar Kirtan next weekend and perhaps I can learn something about my neighbors.
They really are nice people, plus I could use a new religion.
http://ypdtv.com/sikhtemple/2009/10/10/yuba-city-sikh-parade-nagar-kirtan-november-1-2009/
you know there is a large sikh population in Elk grove. I've done some work for a couple of them, for the most part nice people.
I don't know how to say this with out sounding bad... They smell... It in no way has anything to do with how they are as a person, its just something you will notice.
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Probably diet related TAB. I used to work with a guy who took Garlic for his heart, 30 feet away with my back turned I knew when he walked into the shop. I have also heard both American and Vietnamese Veterans comment on how during that war they could often smell the "enemy" before they could see them.
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I have been told that it is curry that smells so bad. A lot of them do their cooking in the garage so it doesn't affect the resale value of their homes.
When I first moved to this area a Realtor was taking me around showing me homes and remarked about it. She had one in fact that she said she wouldn't show me just because of the smell.
What is really funny is the fact that I can't "smell" in the normal sense of the word. I had my olfactory nerve damaged in an accident and have a very distorted sense of smell and taste.
Yuba City is known for its sizable Sikh community. The Punjabi population in the Yuba-Sutter Area has grown to be one of the largest in the United States and one of the largest Sikh populations outside of the Punjab state of India.
Each year on the first Sunday of November, Sikhs from the United States, Canada, India, the United Kingdom and throughout the world attend the Sikh parade in Yuba City, which commemorates the receipt by Sikhs of their Holy scripture, the Guru Granth Sahib, in 1708. The 4.5-mile-long parade features floats and a procession of parade participants.
In 2008, an estimated 80,000 people came out for the event which is now considered one of the largest gatherings in Northern California.[13]
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its not diet tom, its not washing thier hair... its that kind of smell. Kind of like a guy with dreads, but not near as bad.
with all the smells I'm use to... ( solvents, coatings... sweage... etc) if I notice it, its bad.
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TAB,
If you are ever in the Yuba City area and want to stop by I'll treat you to lunch. My time is really flexible usually.
I don't know what curry smells like but from what I understand it is overpowering and is what you smell.
I found this tidbit when searching for "curry smell".......
RE: charged for cooking spicy food
Posted by Bajannicky (My Page) on Thu, Aug 25, 05 at 7:55
Hiya. I know it seems discriminatory but the curry smell can be so prohibitive to anyone wanting to rent. I am married to an indian man and for several reasons we decided to move in with his mum. Oh my God! the smell is unbelievable. You can go there at midnight and it smells like someone is cooking at that exact time! Once you have stepped in the house you come out smelling like curry. And its not just curry but an old oil smell as well because the ingredients are fried together. It goes everywhere: carpets, drapes, cupboards, closets, allllll of your clothes and body.
In my hopes to avoid smelling like this at ALL costs, I am currently trying to find ways of de-currying the house but everything I have read so far seems to indicate that this is not possible. So I can see why the manger of your flat would possibly want compensation. It is an oppressive, eye-watering, gagging, persistent smell.
ps: sorry if I sound harsh but until you have walked into the putrid smell of old oil, curry and incense you just can't know.
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Thanks. If your in or around sacramento I can normally do the same.
Every once in awhile I make the trip up to underwater paradise on E st in marrysvile... not as much as I use to as I no longer have a reef.
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I don't understand the big deal. WAAAAAAAAYYYY back when I was in the Army and stationed at Ft Belvoir I had a Sikh in my platoon. This was in about '74 or '75. Yep, he wore a turban and carried a (very small) knife, had a beard. Nice guy, hard worker, neat and clean about his person and uniform.
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Sikhism is one of the few religious philosophies I truly respect although I myself conform to none I like what they are about.
http://www.sikhs.org/topics.htm (http://www.sikhs.org/topics.htm)