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Title: House health-bill event closed to public
Post by: WatchManUSA on October 29, 2009, 03:27:06 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/29/house-democratic-bill-ceremony-closed-public/

House Democrats blocked the public from attending the unveiling ceremony of their health-care bill Thursday morning, allowing only pre-approved visitors whose names appeared on lists to enter the event at the West side of the Capitol.

Democrats repeatedly touted the openness of the development of their health care bill, which House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer called "the most deliberative, transparent and open process" he had seen in his career on Capitol Hill.
 

I’m not sure Steny Hoyer knows what transparent or open process means.

Good Lord, I hope people in election districts who are represented by these clowns throw their arses out the door.
Title: Re: House health-bill event closed to public
Post by: VinBea on October 29, 2009, 06:20:02 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/29/house-democratic-bill-ceremony-closed-public/

House Democrats blocked the public from attending the unveiling ceremony of their health-care bill Thursday morning, allowing only pre-approved visitors whose names appeared on lists to enter the event at the West side of the Capitol.

Democrats repeatedly touted the openness of the development of their health care bill, which House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer called "the most deliberative, transparent and open process" he had seen in his career on Capitol Hill.
 

I’m not sure Steny Hoyer knows what transparent or open process means.

Good Lord, I hope people in election districts who are represented by these clowns throw their arses out the door.


People may or may not believe in God, the Bible, Satan, or demons - but without a doubt what's going on in Washington DC by elected politicians made up of democrats and republicans (there being absolutely no difference between the two parties [even Newt Gingrich gearing up to bamboozle the conservative right in going to run again...sigh; Americans never learn) is not only criminal and high treason across the board, but it is satanic in which right is wrong, wrong is right, up is down, and left is right: everything's twisted now and is being done on purpose...

One note: I'd watch mainstream media news sources only as an educational tool to stay informed regarding how the enemy within works; to include Fox News, which is probably the worst.

If you are not getting your news from Alex Jones, I'll link a couple more useful sites here (there's more I know...), you really are being crushed by the government out of DC and don't even know it yet...

http://www.blacklistednews.com/

http://www.theflucase.com/

http://www.infowars.com/

http://www.stevequayle.com/index1.html

http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/

etc
Title: Re: House health-bill event closed to public
Post by: Pathfinder on October 29, 2009, 06:28:17 PM
People may or may not believe in God, the Bible, Satan, or demons - but without a doubt what's going on in Washington DC by elected politicians made up of democrats and republicans (there being absolutely no difference between the two parties [even Newt Gingrich gearing up to bamboozle the conservative right in going to run again...sigh; Americans never learn) is not only criminal and high treason across the board, but it is satanic in which right is wrong, wrong is right, up is down, and left is right: everything's twisted now and is being done on purpose...

One note: I'd watch mainstream media news sources only as an educational tool to stay informed regarding how the enemy within works; to include Fox News, which is probably the worst.

If you are not getting your news from Alex Jones, I'll link a couple more useful sites here (there's more I know...), you really are being crushed by the government out of DC and don't even know it yet...

http://www.blacklistednews.com/

http://www.theflucase.com/

http://www.infowars.com/

http://www.stevequayle.com/index1.html

http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/

etc


WAR IS PEACE

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.
Title: Re: House health-bill event closed to public
Post by: twyacht on October 29, 2009, 06:38:25 PM
from VinBea:

One note: I'd watch mainstream media news sources only as an educational tool to stay informed regarding how the enemy within works; to include Fox News, which is probably the worst.

One of the sites you posted, lasttrumpetministries, cites many references from left leaning media sources. MSNBC, NY Times, Associated Press, Politico. etc,...

I never got the Van Jones story from a major news org. except Fox News. One sided propaganda is for the sheeple, at least Fox, gives the alternative point of view, instead of the force fed liberal agenda.

This "transparent" admin is a lie, they make no bones about hiding it either. 


Title: Re: House health-bill event closed to public
Post by: VinBea on October 29, 2009, 06:40:32 PM
WAR IS PEACE

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.


http://www.thecomingdepression.info/

You're exactly right - and nobody can tell me what's going on is some accident and/or some ill informed congressmen and women; nothing could be further from the truth - these Marxist working two sides of the Hegel Dialectic know exactly what they are doing; especially those who know how to bring home the bacon on behalf of their state; folks like Stevens from Alaska; or Teddy of Mass...

Again, Alex Jones knows his stuff: he knows the new world government and how these elitists operate - and seriously speaking, if people are not at the very least listening to Alex Jones, they'll remain in the dark during a time when we as Americans must wake up or we really will be destroyed from within using our own emotionally driven evil natures to do it to us with while the politicians lavish more power and wealth onto themselves as the international global bankers via the Federal Reserve system, rewards politicians from both parties for doing their bidding behind the 'closed' doors...
Title: Re: House health-bill event closed to public
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 29, 2009, 07:14:35 PM
Granted they are a bunch of co&#suc$%rs, but they can't be devil worshipers AND Godless communists. By definition it's an either or thing.
Title: Re: House health-bill event closed to public
Post by: twyacht on October 29, 2009, 08:03:54 PM
Interesting you mention Hegel.  He was praised and discredited by his followers, and modern philosophers alike.

By trend and historical reference, a large portion of the country will blindly follow the "leaders" of either political party, and for selfish reasons never think outside the box, and vote for the "lesser of two evils", or ideology.

At this point in the "game, RINO's infect the right wing, and Marxist radical bastards infest the left. All at "our" expense.

To a few folks in this country, they are quickly realizing the old A.A definition of insanity, and are mad as hell at their gov't. Local, State, and Fed.

Time to hit the reset button, let Hegel think about that.



Title: Re: House health-bill event closed to public
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 29, 2009, 08:09:05 PM
As I debated in the "4 Minutes" thread, the only practical and workable solution is a revolution by the 3%ers followed by a purge of elitist/ socialist activists.
Title: Re: House health-bill event closed to public
Post by: VinBea on October 30, 2009, 01:34:17 PM
Interesting you mention Hegel.  He was praised and discredited by his followers, and modern philosophers alike.

By trend and historical reference, a large portion of the country will blindly follow the "leaders" of either political party, and for selfish reasons never think outside the box, and vote for the "lesser of two evils", or ideology.

At this point in the "game, RINO's infect the right wing, and Marxist radical bastards infest the left. All at "our" expense.

To a few folks in this country, they are quickly realizing the old A.A definition of insanity, and are mad as hell at their gov't. Local, State, and Fed.

Time to hit the reset button, let Hegel think about that.





Hegel's dialectic is ingenious because it works so well -- feeds on our own human 'base' natures to accomplish its end runs around morality and right and wrong all under the color of law...my definition of color of law meaning: laws in which what is right/correct is now technically wrong...or that what use to be considered up is now the new sideways; and they get away with it even if common sense via a swift kick in the breadbasket, a gut check, tells us it's wrong, and that it doesn't make any sense: and is because it is wrong being pushed as what's rightl...

people in America still think GW Bush is the best thing since sliced bread (while Obama has his own bewitched brain-dead followers...) when there's no difference between the two; and they feed on our being ignorant to this reality, and laugh all the way to the bank because it works...writing your congressman/woman will not change anything because they don't work for us, they work for the international bankers via the federal reserve bank/IRS system...congress and our elected politicians are immune from paying taxes in many cases; plus additional perks that dovetail with who and where their loyalties are...
Title: Re: House health-bill event closed to public
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 30, 2009, 02:01:06 PM
Hegel's dialectic is ingenious because it works so well -- feeds on our own human 'base' natures to accomplish its end runs around morality and right and wrong all under the color of law...my definition of color of law meaning: laws in which what is right/correct is now technically wrong...or that what use to be considered up is now the new sideways; and they get away with it even if common sense via a swift kick in the breadbasket, a gut check, tells us it's wrong, and that it doesn't make any sense: and is because it is wrong being pushed as what's rightl...

people in America still think GW Bush is the best thing since sliced bread (while Obama has his own bewitched brain-dead followers...) when there's no difference between the two; and they feed on our being ignorant to this reality, and laugh all the way to the bank because it works...writing your congressman/woman will not change anything because they don't work for us, they work for the international bankers via the federal reserve bank/IRS system...congress and our elected politicians are immune from paying taxes in many cases; plus additional perks that dovetail with who and where their loyalties are...


This is demonstrably false prior to the BO administration, The first example that comes to mind is Agnew.
Title: Re: House health-bill event closed to public
Post by: VinBea on October 30, 2009, 03:37:10 PM
This is demonstrably false prior to the BO administration, The first example that comes to mind is Agnew.

thank God you post and make comment...one thing I can always be assured of posting here is you making a comment...

I guess your Vet status is higher on the pole than mine is...

I'm right, before during and after OB, and you are, well, being yourself!

Title: Re: House health-bill event closed to public
Post by: twyacht on October 30, 2009, 05:51:29 PM
    A philosophy like Hegel's is a self-revelation of the psychic background and, philosophically, a presumption. Psychologically it amounts to an invasion by the unconscious. The peculiar language Hegel uses details this view, it is reminiscent of the megalomaniac context of schizophrenia, who use terrific words to reduce the transcendent to subjective and objective form, to give weight the abscurity of their use of language and it's inherent subjective meaning, so great in their terminology produces the symptoms of weakness, ineptitude, and lack of substance.

    – Carl G. Jung, On the Nature of the Psyche, 1928

What's inherently "right", transcends politics and/or politicians of either party, as they have a self serving agenda that throw "scraps" of so called liberty and freedom to us common citizenry.

Ergo, have no need to do what's "right".  They are more in line with regulations and laws that govern from a tyrannical post rather than what the Founders of this country envisioned.

Most will agree that GW Bush had a lot of faults, the same can be said of every POTUS.

It took generations to get the politicians to the pompous, elitist level they look down at us from, HOWEVER, their potential downfall will be the same as the trip latch door on a gallows.

Very Fast.