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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: jmengert on November 02, 2009, 07:23:04 PM
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I have an 1898 mauser. The stamp on the reciever reads: Mauser Espanol Modelo 1898
Manufactured Loewe Berlin
I bought the gun from a man who gave me some 7.65 x 54 loads. I think I bought some loads from Norma about 8 years ago. I haven't used it for awhile because I couldn't find the exact bullets anymore. Does anyone know if the 7.65 x 53 Argentine rounds will work. I love this gun and remember how well it shot. I would like to start using it again but I don't know enough about it to purchase the right ammunition if they still make it. Any advice would be much appreciated!!
Thanks, Jason
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Yes. If it's chambered for 7.65x53, it will shoot a 54 round. I have an 1891 Argentine Mauser 7.65x53 sometimes referred to as a 7.65x 54, manufactured in Berlin as well. I don't know the deal on the 53 vs. 54 but I have shot them both in mine without issue.
Is there a crest in front of the bolt on top? Some were also ground off after de-commissioning from military service. I have a Mauser manual that identifies proof marks, and model, if you can post some pics, maybe we can narrow down some specifics.
Mine was sporterized by my Grandfather, who was a machinist, and just wanted to lighten it up. But it still shoots better than me even with 25 year old 187gr. BTFMJ milsurp ammo. I do have Norma but they are pricey. I wish I had the 212gr Armor Piercing rds. again I shot them up years ago like an idiot... :-[
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/armorpiercing.jpg)
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/Mauser002.jpg)
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/mauser98001.jpg)
I'd love to see some pics. Post them if you can. If your is 7.65 x 53 or 4, they will work.
Great to read about another Mauser owner. It's a great rifle.
Ammo link, but if you reload, there are many options there as well. The book I have has the specs.
http://www.ammobank.com/cgi-bin/cshop/store/gaugeshow.tam?pagenumber.ptx=1&cartridge_gauge.ctx=7.65%20Argintine
tw
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Mine too has been sportirized. I will post a few pics in a minute.
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Our fearless leader, Michael Bane has one as well, in the "hidden bunker", that has been sporterized, there is a post in the archives here about them as well.
They love attention and oil, especially if put up for a while, I shoot mine pretty frequently, but the metal buttstock keeps the round count down, as my shoulder gets sore. While working for crushing faces, it is still hard on the shoulder.
I thought about refinishing the stock, but don't want to risk the accuracy, and its a family thing,...with the dings, and nicks here and there, it just is fine the way it is.
On my other computer, I have a link to a complete "un" sporterizing project if your interested in bringing it back to its original form, with another stock.
Looking forward to the pics.
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Here the pics
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Are the scope rings original?
Bolt looks solid. If you can describe some "proof" marks, I can utilize some resources to get you some more info if interested.
Most of the Mauser gunsmiths "stamped" their particular marks on various pieces.
Good rifle you have there.
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I don't believe the scope rings are original. The bolt has been ground down to accept a scope. The stamp on the side of the reciever reads:
Mauser Espanol Modelo 1898
Manufactured Loewe Berlin
I can remember shooting this rifle and being amazed at the accuracy and smothness of it. Like I said before, I would love to get this gun out and shooting again but I can't find any 7.65 x 54 rounds. And all I have are about 6 bullets left in that caliber. Any info you can give me would be much appreciated. Everything I've read on this rifle says it should be a 7.65 x 53 but that's not the caliber of bullets i have.
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Yes. If it's chambered for 7.65x53, it will shoot a 54 round. I have an 1891 Argentine Mauser 7.65x53 sometimes referred to as a 7.65x 54, manufactured in Berlin as well. I don't know the deal on the 53 vs. 54 but I have shot them both in mine without issue.
Is there a crest in front of the bolt on top? Some were also ground off after de-commissioning from military service. I have a Mauser manual that identifies proof marks, and model, if you can post some pics, maybe we can narrow down some specifics.
Mine was sporterized by my Grandfather, who was a machinist, and just wanted to lighten it up. But it still shoots better than me even with 25 year old 187gr. BTFMJ milsurp ammo. I do have Norma but they are pricey. I wish I had the 212gr Armor Piercing rds. again I shot them up years ago like an idiot... :-[
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/armorpiercing.jpg)
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/Mauser002.jpg)
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/mauser98001.jpg)
I'd love to see some pics. Post them if you can. If your is 7.65 x 53 or 4, they will work.
Great to read about another Mauser owner. It's a great rifle.
Ammo link, but if you reload, there are many options there as well. The book I have has the specs.
http://www.ammobank.com/cgi-bin/cshop/store/gaugeshow.tam?pagenumber.ptx=1&cartridge_gauge.ctx=7.65%20Argintine
tw
I recognize those things!! They're CLIPS!!!
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They have 7.65 ARGENTINE available.....
http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/BrowseProducts
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/index.php/cName/765-argentine-fmj-ammo