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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: tombogan03884 on November 10, 2009, 07:30:27 PM
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If I ever get back to work, I need to pick up a rifle. It needs to be inexpensive, with a common caliber and I would like to be able to hunt deer, or moose and enter some local service rifle matches with it.
The standard 8mm Mauser answers all those needs but I would prefer 7.62x51 for the lighter recoil than the 180+ grain 8mm bullet.
I have heard about the Israeli Mausers that were rebarreled and are on the surplus market.
Does any one have any experience with them, are they beat to crap or good shooters ? What price range are they in ? I don't want "Sporterized" I think the military stock looks better. If I can't find one what kind of cost would I be looking at to get a standard 8mm rebarreled with the military sights.
Why doesn't every one just post everything you know about Mauser Rifles ?
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Find an Ishapore! Detachable 10 or 12 round box mags, accurate, inexpensive. What more do ya want?
:D
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I have 2 8mm Mausers, but both have been sporterized.........I was thinking about re-barreling one of them into something other than 8mm.
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Dave,
Bought for 170.00, Delivered to my door! 7.62 x 51 ( .308)
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p78/hazcater/Guns/100_1049.jpg)
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I've had a couple of Enfields, .303 AND .308, but I don't care for the looks of them, I would go for the 8mm rather than an Enfield or Ishy.
Note that it is entirely because of the lines, not a slam, or even complaint about the design.
I've had a couple of 8mm Mausers over the years, and in the mid 80's I paid $100 for a like new model 1895 Chilean Mauser in 7 X 57
finish was 100% one noticeable ding in the stock, it was a nice shooter but it was almost 5 feet long, If I found a carbine version of that I would snag it.
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How can a .308 Mauser meet the standards of service rifle when they were never built in that caliber?
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Don't really know if it would but I thought it might qualify since the Israelis used them from the 40's till the 60's
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Here are my 2 8mm Mausers.
The top one was my very first deer rifle that my father gave me over 45 yrs ago.
They have both shot lots of Maine whitetails.
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I'm a little confused, who actually made a short action Mauser? I've got an 8mm "Mitchell's Mauser" I'm wanting to say is a long action... I'll check though.
If the 8mm is a long action .308 is out for caliber choices unless your using it as a single shot. Right?
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Here are my 2 8mm Mausers.
The top one was my very first deer rifle that my father gave me over 45 yrs ago.
They have both shot lots of Maine whitetails.
Those are BEAUTIES! Count me jealous!
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(http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww40/BigCheeseStick/P1010388.jpg?t=1257905891)
Here's the .308 magazine from my ar10, with a 8mm Mauser shell in it, and a .270 Winchester on top that. I KNOW the .270 is a long action, and it's the same length as the 8mm. I have heard of 30/06 Mauser conversions, that commonly BLOW UP, and are considered by most experts completely unsafe to shoot because chamber pressures exceed what the reciever or action were ever intended for.
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Paul & Wilhelm Mauser made a hell of a rifle. The re-barreled ones are only as good as the "smith" that did the re-barreling.
Found some "stuff" while digging.
You need to get a copy of Kuhnhausen's book The Mauser Bolt Actions; a shop manual.
From what I understand, a 98 Mauser barrel will work (the M48 is simply an 'intermediate action' and identical to a 93 except the mag well/bolt throw is a little shorter.).
I've found this barrel at midway.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpag...197&t=11082005
Adams & Bennett Barrel Mauser Series 3 308 Winchester F54 Contour 1 in 10" Twist 24" Chrome Moly in the White
Midway offered 3 different types of this barrel, an F12/F34/and this F54 contour. The F54 is the only one in available(no backorder on the others).
Want to change a good thing do ya? I'd stick with the 8mm, but .308 is a .308.
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Exactly what your looking for Tom. "Coming Soon"
http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=RI141%2DFC
An even better source to purchase from.
http://www.mauser.org/rifles/K98k%20German/index.htm
"The Totenkopf (Death’s Head) was affixed to a small number of rifles that were intended for use by special ‘SS’ troops."
(http://www.mauser.org/rifles/K98k%20German/Death's-Head-+-SS-f-PR---04.gif)
These guys were the worst of the worst murderous rapists, and homicidal lunatics... I'd really not want their memorabelia in my house. And I'm GERMAN!
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I would not consider re-Barreling a small ring mauser but mine are both large ring.
Large Ring - Mauser's with a Large ring have a thread shank diameter of 1.10" With 12 threads per inch. Across the face of the receiver will measure 1 3/8 . You can also measure the trigger guard screw holes, From center hole to center of other hole should measure about 7 7/8 or 7.830.
Small Ring - Mausers with a Small ring have a thread shank diameter of .980" With 12 threads per inch. Across the face of the receiver will measure 1 1/4. You can also measure the trigger guard screw holes, From the center of the holes measure , it should measure about 7 5/8 or 7.625.
http://www.mausercentral.com/barandcal.htm
Caliber's - The caliber choices for the mauser are vast as long as the head on the cartridge is .473 [ or 12.01 mm ] and no longer in length than a 30-06 shell [ shorter cartridges are fine and usually feed without any modifications.] Your barrel swap should be easy when barreling for a non magnum cartridge.
However If you decide on a magnum caliber the bolt face will need to be modified or replaced with a magnum sized faced bolt, the magazine box will need to be lengthened and the feed rails will need modifications which is all best left to a smith. However changing your stock military barrel to a .308 , .22-250, .35 whelen, etc.[ list above is for common manufactured barrels with twist rates, magnum calibers are stated as so]... A non-magnum caliber is easier and is fairly an easy swap just remember always have the headspace checked and properly adjusted.
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Here's a deal Tom
Classic Arms, good company by reputation, and GREAT deals on AKs if you are so inclinined, has Yugo Mausers at less than $200 with extras and cheapammo. Check them out.
FQ13
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7.62X39 Mauser conversion!
http://mysite.verizon.net/resto1l5/jimsprojectguns/
Hitler AND Stalin are spinning in their graves right now! ;D
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Every once in a while Samco or one of the other surplus importers gets in a shipment of the Spanish Mausers that were rebarreled into 308. Usually you can get them fairly cheap.
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Every once in a while Samco or one of the other surplus importers gets in a shipment of the Spanish Mausers that were rebarreled into 308. Usually you can get them fairly cheap.
Were they re barreled or were they made like the Ishy?
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Most Spanish Mauser conversions are 93 Mausers which lack the 3rd lug on the bolt limiting them to less than 42,000 cpu. You need an M98 to run .308 and you need to be SURE it is chambered for .308 Win as opposed to 7.62x51 which has a heavier base and lower pressure. I have a Spanish FR-8 (the best Mauser variant ever made IM not so HO) and I run mostly surplus 7.62 NATO in it.
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g276/double_ation/FR-8.jpg)
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Haz, the Spanish and Israeli Mausers were rebarreled, The Spanish got theirs from 1936 on in 8mm then After the war in 47 and 48 the Israeli's bought a butt load of arms from Czechoslovakia, MG42's Mauser 98's The first Israeli Air force fighter planes were 6 ME 109's. When NATO converted to 7.62 both countries rebarreled their weapons to match. a lot of enfields were as well and that is when India switched over to making the Ishapores in .308
War hawk, What is the price range on the FR8 ?
BM, Mitchell Mausers are over priced but good shooters, their advertising verges on fraud as they are refinished and in some cases if not all REMARKED also they are assembled from mixed renumbered parts, do a google search on them, even Democrat underground says they are over rated and over priced. apparently they ARE good shooters but for collectors it's a rip off, Like the looks of that little T63 Tanker Mauser though ;D
This is just something that I was thinking of, it will not break my heart to "settle" for a Yugo 8mm.
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You can get a m63 in 243 308 and 3006, they are just about $500 bucks. which is a shame.
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TAB, the "Tanker" Mauser is also NEW MANUFACTURE, since the Germans never actually produced such a weapon. Their tank crews were armed with sub machine guns and pistols.
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TAB, the "Tanker" Mauser is also NEW MANUFACTURE, since the Germans never actually produced such a weapon. Their tank crews were armed with sub machine guns and pistols.
Tom
Are you looking for a collector's piece or a low dollar good shooter with cheap ammo? Two different animals.
FQ13
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Low dollar good shooter with cheap ammo. I might even go with a Mosin Nagant, but I would replace the stock before firing it.
The ones I have fired seemed to kick worse than the .300 Win mag I had and weighed more.
SKS would also be possible, but up here they are running around $450 and 7.62 X 39 has doubled in price.
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Get an MN for $80 and 800 rounds for $150!
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Classic arms is bragging on one they have with an ugly stock (cosmoline stains)but a basiclly unfired barrel. I don't know if its still there, but they only want $99.
FQ13
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TAB, the "Tanker" Mauser is also NEW MANUFACTURE, since the Germans never actually produced such a weapon. Their tank crews were armed with sub machine guns and pistols.
I figured they were. Seen a bunch of them at gun shoews recently.
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Real quick search turned up this
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Russian_1891_30_7.62x54R_Mosin_Nagant_Rifle.html
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Russian_1980_s_7.62x54R_FMJ.html
http://www.tjgeneralstore.com/advanced_technology_rifle_stocks.htm (Have to scroll down for MN)
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Southern Ohio Guns has the hex receiver MN for 79.95 and ammo at 800 rounds for 150.00
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Something I meant to post for BM last night, but forgot. The Mausers in 30 - 06 that blow are are fairly easy to Identify they are called 03 Springfield's.
It has been known for a long time,the early production had some heat treat mistakes that led to brittle receivers. There is a specific serial number range that should be available from NRA, American rifle has mentioned it a couple times and it may be in a back issue of Shooting Times.
IIRC (?) it was the first 250,000 from Springfield and the first 20,000 from Rock Island.
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A good match for the power level your looking for, and for the military shooters competitions might be a .303 Brit.... Don't you already have one? Maybe just the ticket!
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I had one years ago, no problem with the round but I don't care for the lines of the rifle.
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1979-118-55%2C_Infanterist_mit_Sturmgewehr_44.jpg)
Parts and ammo available all over the place! Removable mag's, well powered caliber, and WAY cool looking!
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=9036.0
Just think, next year that could be YOU in the pic! ;)
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OK, wiki has the wrong ballistics posted. So maybe it's NOT a moose masher or anything... But the ammo's cute! :)
Fourth from the left, with .30 carbine, and 7.62X39 on either side.
(http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/Service%20Carts.jpg)
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Winchester M1895 in 30-40 Krag!
http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl25-e.htm
Now (http://that's) unique at the range! :)
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http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl25-e.htm
BM, Look close at the fore end and hand guard of the saddle ring carbine, 4th photo down
Compare it to these
http://www.auto-ordnance.com/PA-1AO_m1.html
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Hmmm.
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If you're set on 308 and don't want the Israeli Mauser, see if you can find a Spainish FR8.
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Looks like they used the same pattern for both, I noticed it a while back when some one was selling some reproduction take down models of the 1895.
Yes on the FR8, I saw on Century arms site they have some listed for under $150.
Now I need to get the job ;D
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Looks like they used the same pattern for both, I noticed it a while back when some one was selling some reproduction take down models of the 1895.
Yes on the FR8, I saw on Century arms site they have some listed for under $150.
Now I need to get the job ;D
Sounds like a deal. I would call Classic Arms though. The only reason I keep pimping them is that when I talked to the owner he said that for an extra $10 they'd go through the stash and look for one with matching serial numbers and a clean bore/ uncanted sights. Their guarantee is that if you don't like it, they'll send you a new rifle, not just fix the one you bought. Its hard to beat that.
FQ13
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It might have been the Classic Arms sight that had the FR8's. I went through a bunch of sights today. Even found Prewar Czech Vz24's in 7mm, also a bunch of DWM Brazilian 7mm's but they had 39 inch barrels. The FR8's were around 20 inches.
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Just wanted to add some porn. ;D
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It might have been the Classic Arms sight that had the FR8's. I went through a bunch of sights today. Even found Prewar Czech Vz24's in 7mm, also a bunch of DWM Brazilian 7mm's but they had 39 inch barrels. The FR8's were around 20 inches.
39 inches????? Good lord, put a foot long German bayonet on the thing and you'd never have to fire a shot! I thought Moisins were bad. ;D The flip side is, if you have a competant local gun smith and don't care about collector's value or looks, that 39" barrel can become a 24" barrel very quickly and for not that much green (though the recrowning is something to be concerned about).
FQ13
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Just wanted to add some porn. ;D
Porn is NEVER a bad thing! :)
This is the surplus rifle of my dreams!
SVT 40:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/1940_Tula_SVT40.jpg/771px-1940_Tula_SVT40.jpg)
Semi-auto 7.62X54! Mmmmmm FUN! Wish I had one! :'(
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quaker, I believe it's just the overall length that's 39 inches... Not bad really!
Check out here.
http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting/fr8/index.asp
Though a 39" barrel would be something to behold! :o :)
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Porn is NEVER a bad thing! :)
This is the surplus rifle of my dreams!
SVT 40:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/1940_Tula_SVT40.jpg/771px-1940_Tula_SVT40.jpg)
Semi-auto 7.62X54! Mmmmmm FUN! Wish I had one! :'(
I'll second that, BM!
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My mistake, BM, BARREL LENGTH was 29 inches,
http://www.centuryarms.biz/proddetail.asp?prod=RI195O-G
FQ cutting down the barrel means replacing the stock which is something I want to avoid since the primary appeal of a surplus military rifle over a civilian one is that I like the military stock better.
Recrowning the barrel, if your gunsmith has any skill at all with a lathe, is the least of your problems, the difficult part would be reinstalling the front sight. Iron sights being another driving force behind buying Milsurp instead of civilian production.
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Just go with the swiss K31 (swiss 7.5x55). It's light, short, accurate as all get out, has a 6 round detachable mag, surplus ammo is cheap, and it has decent sights. Downsides are that extra mags are expensive and the surplus ammo is a lead core with a steal jacket and then a nickel jacket so I don't know how well that will go over with some ranges.
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Just go with the swiss K31 (swiss 7.5x55). It's light, short, accurate as all get out, has a 6 round detachable mag, surplus ammo is cheap, and it has decent sights. Downsides are that extra mags are expensive and the surplus ammo is a lead core with a steal jacket and then a nickel jacket so I don't know how well that will go over with some ranges.
This post brings up a VERY important note that we have all forgotten. Lots of states (I don't know about NH) ban the use of FMJ for hunting. If you want to do violence to bambi, make sure that there are legal hunting rounds out there before buying.
FQ13
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I'd read an article sometime back about pulling FMJ bullets and replacing them with SP, HP, Ballistic tip and the like when nothing else is available, or just as a cost savings idea. If you REALLLLLY like the rifle otherwise, it's not hard, kind of a pain though. :-\
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This post brings up a VERY important note that we have all forgotten. Lots of states (I don't know about NH) ban the use of FMJ for hunting. If you want to do violence to bambi, make sure that there are legal hunting rounds out there before buying.
FQ13
you can buy soft tip 7.5 swiss( I also own a k31)
most of the common mil surplus you can get "hunting ammo"
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If I ever get back to work, I need to pick up a rifle. It needs to be inexpensive, with a common caliber and I would like to be able to hunt deer, or moose and enter some local service rifle matches with it.
The standard 8mm Mauser answers all those needs but I would prefer 7.62x51 for the lighter recoil than the 180+ grain 8mm
I've had a couple of Enfields, .303 AND .308, but I don't care for the looks of them, I would go for the 8mm rather than an Enfield or Ishy.
Inexpensive, common caliber: Check. Sorry, I have to post a pict of an 'ugly' rifle.
(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2221/smle.jpg)
Mine cost a bit more than Hazcat's ($250), when I bought it last winter. Action is quick and smooth, recoil feels milder than my M1A. I bought an aftermarket peep sight for it, which I like better than the open V. My only problem with it is me: I'm left handed.
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Inexpensive, common caliber: Check. Sorry, I have to post a pict of an 'ugly' rifle.
(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2221/smle.jpg)
Mine cost a bit more than Hazcat's ($250), when I bought it last winter. Action is quick and smooth, recoil feels milder than my M1A. I bought an aftermarket peep sight for it, which I like better than the open V. My only problem with it is me: I'm left handed.
Find any reasonably priced mags for it?
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I honestly dont think it looks bad at all like this Tom...
(http://www.atigunstocks.com/images/products/ENF0013_01_large.jpg)
Bummer, William's gun sight's had two of them for under $100 each last year. I didn't buy them because the stock looked rough on one, and I didn't want to add another caliber to my arsenal.
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Yes, I did see that when I was checking out the ATI site for the MN stock.
TAB, Hows that K 31 worked out for you, I've only handled one once and I'm leery of the straight pull bolt design.
Overload, I have not TOTALLY rejected the idea of an Enfield (English or Indian) in either caliber, just not my FIRST choice.
Lots of good ideas here, now I just have to find a job or hit the lottery and see whats available. ;D
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Works fine for me, its very accurate, but I'm alot of that is the great surplus ammo.
the gun is super smooth, more like a sporting rifle then combat. Infact, I don't think I'd want to take it into combat. Way too tight tolerances on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ignlbn1-wg0
1st video I could find showing how smooth they really are.
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Well I paid $150 for mine ;D, however IF you can find an FR-8 now you can expect to pay $500 unless you get REAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLL lucky. I've been deer hunting with mine since the end of October and I love how it carries, just with Bambi would show up.
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2 friends of mine and I all own K31's of verying production years and none of us have had any problems. They are great guns.
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K, I know cops are on tighter budgets these days... Buuuut,
(http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/6/6a/HFSMLE-7.jpg/600px-HFSMLE-7.jpg)
(http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/3/37/HFSMLE-6.jpg/600px-HFSMLE-6.jpg)
(http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/0/0f/HFSMLE-8.jpg/600px-HFSMLE-8.jpg)
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Must be England. ::)
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Must be England. ::)
These people conqured the world how? ;D
FQ13 who would be a lot more smug if he weren't Scotish. My ancestors have some 'splainin to do. :-[
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These people conqured the world how? ;D
FQ13 who would be a lot more smug if he weren't Scotish. My ancestors have some 'splainin to do. :-[
I gotta do this ;D ;D
Tom, Who could have told you the Brits were inferior 600 years ago, because I'm Irish and we KNOW that the welfare State limeys can't hack it in the long run ! ;D
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I gotta do this ;D ;D
Tom, Who could have told you the Brits were inferior 600 years ago, because I'm Irish and we KNOW that the welfare State limeys can't hack it in the long run ! ;D
Tom
You dinnae understand laddie,
For me its McCulloughs and Logans on the left (the skirt wearing side) and Sullivans (the terrorists, and no, I'm not joking They ran guns for booze to Ireland during prohibition) and Powells, originally Pywells (who sing well in choir and are very respectable Episcopalians) ;D. on the right. The only constant to a family reunion is that half the party will get drunk and most can't cook worth a damn. The only good thing is that the music is good.! ;D
FQ13 who is a bit of a celtic mutt, but Scotish, Irish or Welsh (and God help me, but I still claim all three proudly) I still have issues with the Brits ;)
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Find any reasonably priced mags for it?
I thought about getting extra mags, but couldn't find any. Plus, I read you're not supposed to treat the gun as a modern magazine fed gun, but as a top feed stripper clip gun with a removable magazine.
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I thought about getting extra mags, but couldn't find any. Plus, I read you're not supposed to treat the gun as a modern magazine fed gun, but as a top feed stripper clip gun with a removable magazine.
That may be but the .308 I have is not in strippers. Also why noy have extra mags? The one I have drops well and locks up well. Easy to change.
BTW Brownells has had them, usually around $40 for the 10 rounders.
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Haz, the rifle design dates back to the 1890's, originally it had a lever that locked the feed so it was a single loader, but in emergencies you could flip the lever and have the ten rounds, many of the early Krag's were made with the same feature.
I think the "detachable" box mag was more for disassembly, than for speedy reloads.
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That may be but the .308 I have is not in strippers. Also why noy have extra mags? The one I have drops well and locks up well. Easy to change.
BTW Brownells has had them, usually around $40 for the 10 rounders.
I bought a .308 bandoleer kit and loaded it up.
Thanks for the heads up on the mags. Do you have a part#?
BTW, does your mag have a ser# that matches your receiver?