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Title: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: ericire12 on November 11, 2009, 10:10:08 AM
http://www.examiner.com/x-2684-Law-Enforcement-Examiner~y2009m11d11-Secretary-Napolitano-told-to-step-down-following-Fort-Hood-comments

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Following the tragic mass-murder of Americans at the Fort Hood, Texas military installation at the hands of a suspected radical Jihadist, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano first priority was to reassure the world that U.S. authorities were taking measures to quell anti-Islam sentiments after last week's mass-murder by a Muslim serving as U.S. Army psychiatrist.

Napolitano said her agency is working with state and local groups to try to deflect any anti-Muslim anger after the Thursday attacks by Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan, a Muslim who reportedly spouted anti-American, pro-terrorist propaganda. Hasan's murder-spree left 13 people dead and 29 wounded.

"This was an individual who does not, obviously, represent the Muslim faith," she said after meeting with a group of women university students.

A non-profit organization devoted to national security is demanding the resignation of the Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano, or that President Obama fire her.

The Internet-based MoveAmericaForward.org is using their web site, email, and social networking sites such as Facebook.com and Twitter.com to push for the removal of Secretary Napolitano.

"Napolitano noticeably demonstrates that she is incapable of protecting America from the threat of Islamic terrorism and illegal aliens, therefore she must be fired immediately if our country is going to be safe in the coming years," according to officials at MoveForwardAmerica.org, an organization that supports the US military as well as law enforcement officials.

MoveForwardAmerica.org notes Napolitano's statements and actions are examples of her incompetence to serve as the top person at Homeland Security when she wrongly claimed that the 9/11 terrorists came through Canada to launch the attack, even though not one of the radical Muslims traveled through our northern border.

"How could the head of our security be so ignorant?" asks a Move Forward America press statement.

 

Meanwhile Congresswoman Mary Fallin (R-OK) said in a statement released to Internet journalists and bloggers that Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano is “out of touch with mainstream America” if she believes that returning war veterans and people who believe in the Second Amendment pose a terrorism threat to the nation.

“Like most Oklahomans I was amazed at her statements and actions,” Fallin said. “First she approved a report that implied members of the armed forces returning from combat would follow in the footsteps of Timothy McVeigh. Then she insulted our friends in Canada by falsely claiming the 9/11 terrorists came from there. Is this really a person that should be speaking on behalf of our nation?”

"Her earlier statement impugning most American conservatives, like myself, as possible terrorists set off another firestorm of criticism of the DHS Secretary," she said.

When Napolitano released a report saying that returning veterans from Iraq or Afghanistan should be watched as they could become domestic conservative terrorists, according to MoveForwardAmerica.org, the FBI went so far as to film the recent tea party protests of loyal Americans because of warnings that conservatives could become terrorist threats.

Napolitano approved release of a report that implied a variety of groups, including veterans, pro life activists, and supporters of gun rights, could be potential anti-government terrorists. She also said that the 9/11 terrorists entered the country from Canada, when in fact they came from overseas.

"With her ignorance about Islamic terrorism, no wonder she is wasting time examining our troops, anti-tax, pro-life, pro-2nd Amendment and other conservative groups," states Move Forward America.

"It is clear that Napolitano has no clue about the details of what happened to America on September 11, 2001. And she has offended our brave and selfless troops who have protected us since that infamous day of attacks on America’s homeland. Her outlook and priorities are exactly backward and plainly dangerous.

"Napolitano is unfit to serve as secretary of Homeland Security and President Obama must fire her before she causes more damage to our country."

The non-profit organization also points to Napolitano's claim that the Canadian border is a sieve for terrorists entering America, ignoring the fact that she turned a blind eye to illegal aliens coming into Arizona while she was Governor.  When Gov. Napolitano declared a "state of emergency" in Arizona, she deployed 54 National Guardsmen.

"I've seen more National Guard troops deployed for a snowstorm," said political consultant Mike Baker.

"For almost eight years, conservatives took President Bush and members of his administration to task for failing to protect our borders. Conservatives find such activity to be beneath contempt. It's unseemly for the conservatives to duplicate what they found deplorable in their opponents' strategy," added Baker.
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 11, 2009, 10:16:32 AM
FTA; ""For almost eight years, conservatives took President Bush and members of his administration to task for failing to protect our borders."

That was Bush, This is the Obama regime now, it's different.   ::)
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: texcaliber on November 11, 2009, 10:17:08 AM
Upsetting, one of the few times I feel "teeth gritting" mad from a read/post.

 


P.S. I have now found a missing "yellow face" that I would like added please.
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: ratcatcher55 on November 11, 2009, 11:44:49 AM
Fire Napaolitano because she doesn't understand her job is to protect the US not make people warm and fuzzy about any single group.
Fire the Muller, head of the FBI, because his folks failed to follow up on intell.
Fire Gates because the DOD allow a jihadist in the  US Army
Fire the McHugh, Sec of Army for allowing a jihadist in the US Army
Releave the base commander for allowing a jihadist in the US Army
Releave the unit commander for allowing a jihadist in the US Army

Maybe some people will get the point that we are at war and it sucks to loose.
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 11, 2009, 12:07:14 PM
From Ratcatcher
"Maybe some people will get the point that we are at war and it sucks to loose."

I doubt they will understand that since the a hole politicians have not allowed us an unqualified WIN since 1945 . >:(
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: JC5123 on November 11, 2009, 02:43:52 PM
Too angry for comment... >:(
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: Johnny Bravo on November 11, 2009, 02:50:23 PM
Too angry for comment... >:(

+1 JC............. It's another one. I'm just plain pissed off.   (http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac157/johnnybravo7/smileys/wtfsmiley.gif)
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: fightingquaker13 on November 11, 2009, 02:53:59 PM
Tancredo as a replacement perhaps? ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: JC5123 on November 11, 2009, 04:08:27 PM
To hell with a replacement. Just get rid of DHS. The department really has done nothing special that couldn't be handled just as effectively by other departments. Hmmm, DOD comes to mind... DHS was unfortunate, it was a department established by Bush to consolidate authority. So far it's track record has been nothing but jack boot type tactics to steal individual freedom away from the American people.
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: tt11758 on November 11, 2009, 04:35:53 PM
Fire Napaolitano because she doesn't understand her job is to protect the US not make people warm and fuzzy about any single group.
Fire the Muller, head of the FBI, because his folks failed to follow up on intell.
Fire Gates because the DOD allow a jihadist in the  US Army
Fire the McHugh, Sec of Army for allowing a jihadist in the US Army
Releave the base commander for allowing a jihadist in the US Army
Releave the unit commander for allowing a jihadist in the US Army

Maybe some people will get the point that we are at war and it sucks to loose.



You forgot one.  Fire the Imposter-In-Chief because his policies are to blame for the clusterf**k that happened on his watch.
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: fightingquaker13 on November 11, 2009, 04:54:55 PM
To hell with a replacement. Just get rid of DHS. The department really has done nothing special that couldn't be handled just as effectively by other departments. Hmmm, DOD comes to mind... DHS was unfortunate, it was a department established by Bush to consolidate authority. So far it's track record has been nothing but jack boot type tactics to steal individual freedom away from the American people.
Amen Brother.
It did two things. Make large inefficient agencies larger and more inefficeicent by adding an extra layer of bureacracy. It also gave a miltaristic siege mentality to agencies dealing with common crimes. Neither of these are good things.
FQ13
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 11, 2009, 05:02:10 PM
To hell with a replacement. Just get rid of DHS. The department really has done nothing special that couldn't be handled just as effectively by other departments. Hmmm, DOD comes to mind... DHS was unfortunate, it was a department established by Bush to consolidate authority. So far it's track record has been nothing but jack boot type tactics to steal individual freedom away from the American people.

We already HAD an organization tasked by the Constitution with guarding America. It's called the ARMY.
DHS was intended to provide a unified command and control structure to speed reaction times, eliminate duplication of effort, and streamline the sharing of information.
Hurricane Katrina, and the mid west flooding shows how well THAT worked out.
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: twyacht on November 11, 2009, 07:02:13 PM
Security Secretary Janet Napolitano is “out of touch with mainstream America”

That's why she's been coined Janet "From Another Planet" Napolitano.

Her speech was made in the U.A.E.

Nice,...

Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: WatchManUSA on November 11, 2009, 07:16:06 PM
Hurricane Katrina, and the mid west flooding shows how well THAT worked out.

It's all Bush's fault, you know.
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: ericire12 on November 11, 2009, 07:20:22 PM
It's all Bush's fault, you know.

I blame Cheney :D
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: fightingquaker13 on November 11, 2009, 07:21:46 PM
I blame Cheney :D
And Eric finds the truth! ;) Generally, I just blame Tom or Haz though. ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: Pathfinder on November 11, 2009, 07:22:18 PM
Ya know, I was just ponderin' the state of this here universe, when this completely hypothetical question came to me from outa nowhere -

Completely hypothetically, bho and Janet from another planet are convicted of treason and sentenced to death. Who would you hang first?

Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: ericire12 on November 11, 2009, 07:23:14 PM
Ya know, I was just ponderin' the state of this here universe, when this completely hypothetical question came to me from outa nowhere -

Completely hypothetically, bho and Janet from another planet are convicted of treason and sentenced to death. Who would you hang first?



BHO
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: twyacht on November 11, 2009, 07:24:03 PM
It's all Bush's fault, you know.


Mayor Daley of Chicago, stated Ft. Hood was because Americans Love Guns, I'm waiting for the "It's Bush's Fault" correlation to complete the MSM equation.

It's always better to blame Bush, when the oxygen level of the liberal brain runs low,...

Cheney, well hell, he's the devil incarnate anyway, secretly being the puppetmaster..... :P

Him and Soros actually play golf and scheme the global domination of the planet.

Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: fightingquaker13 on November 11, 2009, 07:28:45 PM


Him and Soros actually play golf and scheme the global domination of the planet.


Scary thing is TW, as much as I avoid the tinfoil, I wouldn't doubt that. ;D :P
FQ13
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 11, 2009, 08:27:59 PM
Ya know, I was just ponderin' the state of this here universe, when this completely hypothetical question came to me from outa nowhere -

Completely hypothetically, bho and Janet from another planet are convicted of treason and sentenced to death. Who would you hang first?



one rope, with a noose on each end run around the guard rail on a bridge , push them both at the same time.



Scary thing is TW, as much as I avoid the tinfoil, I wouldn't doubt that. ;D :P
FQ13

FQ, How many of BO's Cabinet Had been awarded the American Freedom Medal, America's highest civilian award. Before BO got elected ?
Cheney received it in the 90's
So unless you LIKE looking like a liberal chump you should rethink that stupid comment.
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: Pathfinder on November 11, 2009, 08:31:08 PM
Scary thing is TW, as much as I avoid the tinfoil, I wouldn't doubt that. ;D :P
FQ13

We already knew that about you.  8)
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: fightingquaker13 on November 11, 2009, 08:42:59 PM
FQ, How many of BO's Cabinet Had been awarded the American Freedom Medal, America's highest civilian award. Before BO got elected ?
Cheney received it in the 90's
So unless you LIKE looking like a liberal chump you should rethink that stupid comment.
As far as BOs cabinet, you'll get few good words from me. its worse than Clinton's, yet another dissapointment. As far as Cheney and Soros (in a hypothetical tinfoil hat scenario) being in cahoots.....An oil company executive and an international financier both with political ambitions and well earned reputations for ruthlessness? Nah, never happen. ;D
FQ13
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: twyacht on November 11, 2009, 08:47:57 PM
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm182/twyacht/tinfoilhat.jpg)

 ::)

Ever since Tom Ridge recommended "duck" tape, I've been stocking up on Reynolds Wrap.....
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: twyacht on November 11, 2009, 09:21:30 PM
Didn't take long:

Mayor Daley of Chicago, stated Ft. Hood was because Americans Love Guns, I'm waiting for the "It's Bush's Fault" correlation to complete the MSM equation.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2009/11/11/liberal-radio-host-blames-george-bush-bullying-muslims-real-reasons-fort

Liberal Radio Host Blames George Bush, Bullying Muslims As 'Real Reasons' for the Fort Hood Shooting

By Tim Graham (Bio | Archive)
November 11, 2009 - 08:43 ET

Liberal talk-radio hosts are finding other reasons why Major Nidal Hasan would shoot up Fort Hood, other reasons than glorifying Allah. On Tuesday, Stephanie Miller suggested it could be because "George Bush made many people around the world feel like this was a war against Islam by using words like crusade."

Does this accurately reflect the words Bush routinely offered on Islam?

In the first week after September 11, Bush made an off-hand remark that "this crusade, this war against terrorism, is going to take a while." When Europe "cringed" in revulsion, Bush tried to avoid the word going forward. It was much more common for Bush to call Islam a "religion of peace."

Also high on the list, naturally following from Bush's alleged Islamophobia, is the bullying of Hasan and other Muslim soldiers: "the fact that he apparently was taunted for being Muslim because of the attitudes that developed here." Even if this was true and not just hearsay, it doesn't excuse mass murder.

***

See? Told ya' Told ya',......

 8)
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: fightingquaker13 on November 11, 2009, 09:35:27 PM
I am not W's number one fan. I did not like the majority of his foriegn policy. That being said, blaming Bush for Ft. Hood is like blaming the Klan for drive bys in the ghetto. It makes no sense on planet earth. Even if W was more than a little ham fisted in FP it in no way detracts from the fact that the theat is very real. Here's a clue to the multi-cultural left: IT'S NOT OUR FAULT AND NOTHING YOU SAY IS GOING TO APPEASE THEM. WIN OR DIE. Take your pick. Rant over.
FQ13 who will now pour a rum and coke
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 12, 2009, 08:52:25 AM
On top of today's letters to the editor ( "Americans need to quit being paranoid"," Honor our troops but work for peace" )
and "news" (Lou Dobbs forced out of CNN by Hispanics for immigration views ) my temper is short and my blood pressure through the roof (metaphorically at least ). The only good and unbiased stories I have seen are the one that said the Army "dumped" Hasan, a mediocre student, at Ft. Hood because there were enough other doctors there to minimize the effects of his "lazy work habits". And the story about the recovery of Sabi, the MIA bomb dog in Afghanistan.
Perhaps hoping for gas chambers to exterminate America's liberals and the Islamic apologists living among us is a bit on the extreme side, but as the philosopher once said, "shoot for the stars so you might at least reach the tree tops"
(words to that effect any way, I'm not in the mood to research to get it exact. I'm to likely to get side tracked with incinerator blueprints. )
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: Hazcat on November 12, 2009, 08:56:47 AM
On top of today's letters to the editor ( "Americans need to quit being paranoid"," Honor our troops but work for peace" )
and "news" (Lou Dobbs forced out of CNN by Hispanics for immigration views ) my temper is short and my blood pressure through the roof (metaphorically at least ). The only good and unbiased stories I have seen are the one that said the Army "dumped" Hasan, a mediocre student, at Ft. Hood because there were enough other doctors there to minimize the effects of his "lazy work habits". And the story about the recovery of Sabi, the MIA bomb dog in Afghanistan.
Perhaps hoping for gas chambers to exterminate America's liberals and the Islamic apologists living among us is a bit on the extreme side, but as the philosopher once said, "shoot for the stars so you might at least reach the tree tops"
(words to that effect any way, I'm not in the mood to research to get it exact. I'm to likely to get side tracked with incinerator blueprints. )

Got any links for this.  I have not read/seen this side of the story.
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 12, 2009, 09:03:39 AM
http://www.laconiadailysun.com/LaconiaPDF/2009/11/12L.pdf

It's on the top right of page 3

NEW YORK (AP) — CNN’s Lou Dobbs, a lightning
rod for criticism following his transition from
a business journalist to an opinionated anchor on
such issues as illegal immigration, has told viewers
that he was quitting his nightly show to pursue new
opportunities.
“This will be my last broadcast,” Dobbs said on
the air Wednesday after giving the day’s headlines.
Dobbs, who hosts a daily radio show unrelated to
CNN, said the network had allowed him to be
released early from his contract.
Dobbs was a CNN original, signing on when the
cable network started in 1980. For much of that
time, he hosted a nightly business broadcast that
became one of the most infl uential shows in the corporate
world, and CNN’s most profi table show for
advertising revenue.
But Dobbs said his world view changed after the
2001 terrorist attacks and corporate corruption
scandals, and he began to more freely express his
opinions. He was particularly persistent in bringing
the immigration issue to the fore, winning him both
higher ratings and enemies. Latino groups had anactive petition drive seeking his removal.
His presence became awkward for CNN, particularly
as it began emphasizing reporting and
non-opinion shows. He angered management this
summer by pressing questions about President
Barack Obama’s birth site after CNN reporters
determined there was no issue.
Dobbs said the decision came after many months
of discussion with CNN U.S. President Jon Klein.
Dobbs said he wanted to concentrate on his role as a
commentator and on advocacy journalism.
Klein hailed Dobbs’ “appetite for big ideas, the
megawatt smile and larger than life presence he
brought to our newsroom.”
“With characteristic forthrightness, Lou has now
decided to carry the banner of advocacy journalism
elsewhere,” Klein said. “We respect his decision.”
Dobbs said he was proud of his role in helping to
build the fi rst cable news network. He said some
leaders in media, politics and business “have been
urging me to go beyond my role here at CNN and to
engage in constructive problem-solving.”
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: tt11758 on November 12, 2009, 01:28:46 PM
I am not W's number one fan. I did not like the majority of his foriegn policy. That being said, blaming Bush for Ft. Hood is like blaming the Klan for drive bys in the ghetto. It makes no sense on planet earth. Even if W was more than a little ham fisted in FP it in no way detracts from the fact that the theat is very real. Here's a clue to the multi-cultural left: IT'S NOT OUR FAULT AND NOTHING YOU SAY IS GOING TO APPEASE THEM. WIN OR DIE. Take your pick. Rant over.
FQ13 who will now pour a rum and coke


And this is directed toward the same multi-cultural left that you helped put in control of this country?
Title: Re: Secretary Napolitano called out for her Fort Hood Comments
Post by: ratcatcher55 on November 13, 2009, 09:00:23 AM
To hell with a replacement. Just get rid of DHS. The department really has done nothing special that couldn't be handled just as effectively by other departments. Hmmm, DOD comes to mind... DHS was unfortunate, it was a department established by Bush to consolidate authority. So far it's track record has been nothing but jack boot type tactics to steal individual freedom away from the American people.

+1 It just added more bureaucrats to the system.