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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: PegLeg45 on November 16, 2009, 08:21:36 PM

Title: South Georgia Shootings
Post by: PegLeg45 on November 16, 2009, 08:21:36 PM
Dammit, will this stupidity ever cease?
(that's a rhetorical question, of course......dammit)
.........
  >:(  >:(  >:(

One killed, 11 shot in Valdosta

Staff reports

VALDOSTA —

Police say they are interviewing what they describe as “persons of interest” in an outbreak of shooting at a Valdosta apartment complex that killed one person and left 10 others wounded.

The dead man was identified as 19-year-old Sydney Bivins Jr.

Valdosta police Capt. Bobbi McGraw says Bivins was transported to South Georgia Medical Center where he died of a gunshot wound.

McGraw says that of the wounded, two remained hospitalized Monday and the rest were treated and released. She says three of those wounded were juveniles.

She says the gunfire appears to have started after a series of quarrels that broke out in a crowd gathered outside the complex in the south Georgia city about 5:30 p.m. Sunday. No arrests have been made.

http://www.tiftongazette.com/local/local_story_320114340.html


Many questions unanswered in Valdosta shootings
2:08   
By Jade Bulecza

VALDOSTA, GA (WALB) –Lots of questions remain unanswered Monday night after a mass shooting at a public housing project in Valdosta Sunday night.

Ten people were wounded and one person was killed. Two victims remain hospitalized as police try to figure out what led to the shootout.

They still haven't made any arrests.

Gail Nelson's daughter Daphane Henton was shot multiple times in the leg last night. She was one of 11 shot.  One of them died.

"Two bullets escaped her and one went inside of her," said Nelson.

We caught up with Nelson on her way to her daughter's Hudson Dockett home. She was bringing Henton her medication.

"I just want this madness to stop," said Nelson.

Henton just turned 23 yesterday and her mom said this birthday is one she'll never forget.

19-year-old Sydney Bivins Jr was killed.

His body is being sent to the GBI crime lab for an autopsy.

"It hurt me dearly for the young man we lost,” said Nelson. “I know him. I know every last one of them that got shot, every last one of the victims."

Police do have some theories on the motives but are not releasing them.

"We leave our minds open,” said Capt. Bobbi McGraw, Valdosta Police. “We're exploring every facet of the crime."

They don't think the shooting is random. At this point they know two weapons were involved but they’re not saying where the weapons were found. They do say shell casings were found throughout the crime scene.

Police are not ruling out the possibility of the victims also being the offenders. Two victims remain in the hospital.

"We have one that's in serious condition and I believe one that's stable," said McGraw.

The ages of the victims vary. Three juveniles involved have been treated and released. Henton was the only woman involved.

"As we conclude this thing, we're hoping we can do it in the next several days,” said Cmdr. Brian Childress. “We'll try to be more forthcoming as we can, I just can't hurt the case."

Investigators were still out on the crime scene on Monday. The death is the eighth homicide in Valdosta this year. Last year, at this time their was only one murder case.


http://www.walb.com/global/story.asp?s=11516534

Title: Re: South Georgia Shootings
Post by: Jackel on November 16, 2009, 08:28:20 PM
the fit is definitely hitting the shan.
Title: Re: South Georgia Shootings
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 16, 2009, 08:39:56 PM
What do you want to bet it was some kind of housing "Project". and involved some type of gang activity.Like that mass shooting in Fla. a year ago where the "victims" were engaged in illegal gambling.
Title: Re: South Georgia Shootings
Post by: twyacht on November 16, 2009, 08:48:53 PM
I thought folks in housing projects couldn't afford guns?

Title: Re: South Georgia Shootings
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 16, 2009, 08:51:53 PM
Mexican Cartels and MS13 run drugs through there, they got the GOOD stuff.
Title: Re: South Georgia Shootings
Post by: ericire12 on November 17, 2009, 08:23:58 AM
Mexican Cartels and MS13 run drugs through there, they got the GOOD stuff.

Yep, 100% chance it is drug related
Title: Re: South Georgia Shootings
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 17, 2009, 08:45:12 AM
I wonder how many of them were here LEGALLY.
Title: Re: South Georgia Shootings
Post by: Badgersmilk on November 17, 2009, 09:21:50 AM
I lived in Valdosta for three months of training in the military (Moody AFB).  While it is a low income kinda town, the locals are the nicest people I've met in my whole life!  You couldn't go for a walk 100' down the road without every car that came by stopping to say.  "How ya doin?  Can I give you a ride?"  They were just GREAT people!  Went fishing with them many times, & really enjoyed my time there.  :)

The shooting only goes as a leason for us all.  People, ANY people, especially in mass, are unpredictable at best.

It's sad to see this behavior in "small town, USA".   :(
Title: Re: South Georgia Shootings
Post by: PegLeg45 on November 17, 2009, 12:29:08 PM
Badger's right.....basically Valdosta (and most other towns) is a good place with good, hospitable folks. This was just in a bad part of a good place (also like any other town). I would venture that 90% of the bad stuff goes on in one small area of most towns.

I-75 interstate has been a major pipeline for dope for years. They used to make a half dozen busts a week in our county at the highest point. And I'm talking six to seven figure busts. The GSP Troopers in our region were receiving multiple death threats. The drug shippers finally got smart (I guess) and started using different routes and the number of busts went down.


Title: Re: South Georgia Shootings
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 17, 2009, 12:38:22 PM
Don't let the number of busts fool you, the entire south is webbed with networks. For an example, MS 13 with an estimated membership around 30,000 has a strong presence at LEAST as for north and East as Alexandria Va.
The number of busts did not go down because they are not using that route any more, they went down because the dopers found new ways to avoid getting caught.
Title: Re: South Georgia Shootings
Post by: Pathfinder on November 17, 2009, 02:56:19 PM
My only story about Valdosta -

Twenty years ago my brother, his wife, my wife and son (about 2 at the time) pulled an all-night drive from Chicago to Bloomington, IL where he lived, and then on to Hudson FL to spend Christmas with my Dad. Last time too - were were still young and stupid but way too old to be pulling all night drives. Due to a snowstorm that hit just as we approached Bloomington, we waited until morning to leave.

I was driving about 2AM, and was getting tired, so i woke my brother and we looked for a place to swap drivers. I saw bright lights off the next exit, and pulled off and into a restaurant parking light. The restaurant was closed for the night, but the thing that unnerved me was the old beater car with its front door and trunk lid open right smack in front of the restaurant. No one in sight, just the car.

So I swung the car around and foolishly parked under one of the parking lot lights. We were all out (except the kid - he was asleep - and stretching our legs when I noticed headlights to the west - not moving. I pointed them out to my brother, who shrugged it off.

At that point a rather unkempt guy - wild very long hair, right out of Lynard Skynard but shabbily dressed - ambled slowly out from behind the restaurant. I don't know who was more startled - him or me. I must say, tho, he jumped when he saw us, and ran to the car, slammed his trunk lid down, hopped in and roared out of the lot like a scalded cat. As I am trying to get everyone back into the 2-door car, I see the headlights down the road take off after him eastbound - toward us! They passed us by at high speed.

Just as I am about to get in, I see the other headlights. This third car was obscured by the trees along the road right in front of the restaurant, but I did not see him until he pulled a U-turn and took off after the other 2 cars.

I think my brother was doing about 80 when we hit the end of the entrance ramp back onto I-75.