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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: ericire12 on November 17, 2009, 09:48:16 AM

Title: The "Black Box" for firearms
Post by: ericire12 on November 17, 2009, 09:48:16 AM
http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2009-11/weapons-manufacturer-unveils-black-box-guns

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Weapons Manufacturer Unveils Black Box for Guns
The gadget would record details of every shot fired to track both weapon and user performance

Military and police higher-ups can now see just how many shots a particular weapon fired during the course of a battle or incident. The Register reports that a new black box device designed for rifles and submachine guns could report on ammo usage and weapon jamming, as well as who shot whom at what time.

Technology, Jeremy Hsu, battlefields, black box, bullets, guns, monitoring, police, soldiers, warfighters, weapons, weapons manufacturers
The new gadget could possibly record details such as where shots were fired and the intended target, and even indirectly finger the identity of the weapon user by using GPS and the weapon's identification number. That would allow individual soldiers to know how many shots they had fired without checking their magazines or ammo if hooked up to a Land Warrior system, and commanders could see if their troops are in danger of running low on ammo. Manufacturers could also know when a weapon might require maintenance, or if a particular gun had troubles such as jamming.

A black box device might also tip off higher-ups regarding the details of when and where weapons were fired, which could prove useful in follow-up investigations involving accidents or possible misbehavior. It could also inform after-action reports to help determine how to better improve soldier performance.

Belgian company FN Herstal plans to show off its black box at the MILIPOL security expo in Paris tomorrow. The device supposedly fits into the empty space the size of a pistol grip, and its battery can last either ten years or 100,000 shots.

This sounds like a worthy gun upgrade, in a different sense from the ability to shoot precision explosive bullets. The added accountability that such a device adds to the military and police also does not hurt, and even private gun owners may like the idea of better knowing their weapon -- without the outside monitoring, of course.
Title: Re: The "Black Box" for firearms
Post by: Badgersmilk on November 17, 2009, 10:52:41 AM
Further evidence of my delusions that the replacement for the AR will be a UN sactioned weapon produced by FN.  And mandated for use by all UN members (somebody was paying for them to develop this).  God, I hope they come up with something better than the 5.7mm!
Title: Re: The "Black Box" for firearms
Post by: Texas_Bryan on November 17, 2009, 11:28:57 AM
Further evidence of my delusions that the replacement for the AR will be a UN sactioned weapon produced by FN.  And mandated for use by all UN members (somebody was paying for them to develop this).  God, I hope they come up with something better than the 5.7mm!

What ever it is, I'm sure they'll make sure it does a good job at getting our folks killed.
Title: Re: The "Black Box" for firearms
Post by: brosometal on November 17, 2009, 05:08:34 PM
It would seem that they are intent on developing (read: spending vast quantities of money) on things that do not matter.  An army's job is to kill and break things.  These things should be self evident (read: the nanny state cannot improve on warfare).  I wonder how many folks would want to upgrade to Magpul et. al.?
Title: Re: The "Black Box" for firearms
Post by: twyacht on November 17, 2009, 05:43:48 PM
Sounds like big brother, wanting to stick its f$*%*&% face in every LEO, or military person with a gun.

The UN is a sneaky bunch of weasels, this is just the first steps for worldwide gun control, including the USA, BHO is saving it for the second half of his term....

Title: Re: The "Black Box" for firearms
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 17, 2009, 05:49:30 PM
 My technical evaluation is that this is just more crap that can break.
On the political side I think TW nailed it
"Sounds like big brother, wanting to stick its f$*%*&% face in every LEO, or military person with a gun."
Title: Re: The "Black Box" for firearms
Post by: twyacht on November 17, 2009, 06:03:46 PM
Can you imagine the implications and/or slippery slope?

The Brady Bunch and others would have a field day.

Scenario:

Gee Officer Smith, When confronted by two armed crack dealers, you fired a total of 35 times. Both crackdealers were shot numerous times, do you consider your firing excessive?

Geez.......Imagine a military scenario.....

PFC. Jones, you encountered 3 hostiles yet fired over 100 rds. Does this abide by the current rules of engagement?

Where's Medal Of Honor Soldier, Capt. Merrit, with his bayonet....

Profanity restricts me from posting further.


Title: Re: The "Black Box" for firearms
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 17, 2009, 06:06:41 PM
Can you imagine the implications and/or slippery slope?

The Brady Bunch and others would have a field day.

Scenario:

Gee Officer Smith, When confronted by two armed crack dealers, you fired a total of 35 times. Both crackdealers were shot numerous times, do you consider your firing excessive?

Geez.......Imagine a military scenario.....

PFC. Jones, you encountered 3 hostiles yet fired over 100 rds. Does this abide by the current rules of engagement?

Where's Medal Of Honor Soldier, Capt. Merrit, with his bayonet....

Profanity restricts me from posting further.




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