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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: alfsauve on November 20, 2009, 08:04:33 AM
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Open letter to Ken Jorgensen, Ruger Firearms:
I'd love to try my hand at the Ruger Rimfire. I watched the nifty promotional video with MB. I'm even saving to buy a new 10/22. Trouble is that there is no information on your web site. Ruger.com is still listing the 2009 schedule (which had only 3 competitions).
Want to attract people? New People? You've got to make the information available. You've got to keep the web site updated. Right now, (just like NRA AP) what the web site tells people is that there is NO 2010 competition, and that Ruger doesn't care enough about this to keep it updated.
Check other web sites, like IHMSA and especially USPSA. On USPSA matches are listed out to October 2010 already. Results of past matches are easily available. On IHMSA, I can see what types of equipment the competitors used. There information make it feel so much more inviting.
Maybe you haven't gotten the details all nailed down, at least update the web site. Let viewers know you're working on it. Ask for help in locating clubs that might sponsor matches. Are you considering indoor matches? (In some metro areas that's all that's available.....indoor ranges.)
Here's the questions that should be answered on your web site.
Were the 2009 competitions held? (How about 2008 or 2007?)
What were the courses of fire? (target type, size and distance would help)
What were the scores?
What equipment did the competitors use?
What were the prizes and awards?
Will there be a 2010?
Where?
When?
What courses of fire to expect (target type, SIZE and DISTANCE would help)
What rule changes?
Entry Fees?
Awards/Prizes?
I really want this to succeed and I hope you can get the information updated soon.
Alf Sauve'
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OKAY. THE 2010 DATES ARE POSTED!
http://ruger.com/micros/rugerRimfire/schedule.html (http://ruger.com/micros/rugerRimfire/schedule.html)
Piru, California
May 8, 2010
Exeter, New Hampshire
June 19, 2010
Prospect Hill, North Carolina
July 24, 2010
Torrance County, New Mexico
August 21, 2010
New Tripoli, Pennsylvania
October 3, 2010
Ruger Rimfire Championship
October 30-31, 2010
Hogue Action Pistol Range
3270 Gilardi Road, San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
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WTF.... Glad the Bowl of the US will have these comp. There isn't anything in the Mid-West?
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I wonder why Ruger can't get more clubs/ranges to sponsor a match. Assuming that they really want to spread this out. If I were in marketing, my goal would be to have at least 50 and up to 100 of these matches in year. I'd roll in a team mid-week, do all the setup, pay for advertising, arrange local news PR/coverage, provide all the signage, a prize table, handle all the logistics, everything. As a reward to the range/club, I'd leave a bunch of the target holder, poppers etc (cheaper than shipping them back). I'd have 4 teams in the field and a whole slew of advance folks working out of HQ making arrangements.
I'd also leave each club with a complete how-to book on staging this competition, so that they could hold local matches during the year. The second year, I'd expect the local club to pick up most of the logistics and I'd just provide assistance, prizes and day of the match presence.
Maybe it will grow some each year. At least in the Midwest you have Bianchi.
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WTF.... Glad the Bowl of the US will have these comp. There isn't anything in the Mid-West?
I know you guys sitting in snow hate us southerners who have enough sense to live where it's warm... But do you have to keep us out of the competitions, too? Nothing in the South? And don't try to tell me that North Carolina is southern. Those damn yankees can't even do proper barbeque. Sheesh ;)
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I guess I expected more out of Ruger There does not appear to be much grassroots organization. To grow the sport they need local clubs and leagues at ranges organized. These groups will feed shooters into sanctioned regional competitions.
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It's interesting that the RUGER rimfire challenge will be shot in Exeter and not at one of the ranges up here closer to their factory.
(No it is not the Sig Academy, that is in a nearby small town )
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Mabey the guys over at Ruger should call the guys at GLOCK and ask for a few pointers on how to make a series like this work ;D
I really enjoyed shooting GSSF matches all over the NW this year
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Hi All,
I posted on RAC section, if you watch the DRTV video they touch on the 2010 matches, this is the start of the Ruger Rimfire Series, I'm hosting the Southeast Regional and to promote the sport I added 2 monthly rimfire matches to my list of other matches, I purchased 60 steel plates last week (now have them) to go with the 36 I had, I'm doing my part, I think the sport is great and more so with ammo being what it is at this time. Look for more info at www.teamrimfire.com
Regards,
Dean
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Dean, what about a link you your shoots?
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O.K. www.caswellranch.embarqspace.com hope this is within the forum rules.
Dean
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How about in TULSA at USSA?
Sorry about shouting. We must have a gun show every two weeks...I think send 4 or 5 of the local dealers a banner to put up at the gun shows a couple of months before the competition could fill the range with newbies....roll that thing over to happen when it's not too cool and not July-August.
Hey, the IDPA Nationals were there last year (and the year before) the National SWAT Championship (well, actually international GSG 9 and other countries anti-terror groups were there too) ,,,plenty of steel, plenty of ranges, nice big lodge.
Need someone to help....hmmmm....maybe we could dovetail it to precede the Wounded Warrior benefit match.
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Ugg...I'm from Illinois...and Ruger wants me to travel to anti-gun California for its Rimfire National Championships. ???
What the heck!
Good grief...I don't like spending my own money in my home state because of its corruptness and anti-gun stance...there is no way in heck I am going to Kali and have that state mooch my sales tax money to further their agenda.
Nuh-huh!
Not gonna happen.
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We're trying to get things changed in CA. There are just so many idiots that believe anything the media and the politicians want them to believe. Next week we have a shall issue CCW bill being heard again. We'll probably need to drag it out a few more times before enough people figure out that our rights are at stake and demand that the elected listen. It's interesting that the bill is numerated as AB 357.
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Hey, I would be willing to hold the world shoot in 2011 if they want (one year west coast,next year east coast). ;)
Regards,
Dean
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O.K. www.caswellranch.embarqspace.com hope this is within the forum rules.
Oh yeah, Dean, Most any shooting link is good here.
Now that's still like 7 hours from Marietta, so don't expect me to just drop in one Saturday, but maybe some others who live closer will benefit from knowing about your facility.
Thanks for sharing.
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I know you guys sitting in snow hate us southerners who have enough sense to live where it's warm... But do you have to keep us out of the competitions, too? Nothing in the South? And don't try to tell me that North Carolina is southern. Those damn yankees can't even do proper barbeque. Sheesh ;)
Well I live in Iowa and there isn't anything remotely close. So yeah.. I'll consider NC South for you. LOL.. Still think it is BS there aren't more of these comps.
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Thanks for the info about the range! I may just have to take a Saturday off and try out my skills with my 10/22!
Crusader Rabbit... the only Damn Yankees around here are from north of Virgina! ;) I don't know what you are talking about in reguards to our BBQ, I find it rather tasty! ;D
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One of our new shooters (her first ever match) yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQcAzCrQxUg
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New shooters are what we want.
Lots of new shooters.
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New shooters are what we want.
Lots of new shooters.
And girl shooters at that.
Hey, we need something to look at between stages. ;)
;D
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JSC3ATLSCO wrote:
Well I live in Iowa and there isn't anything remotely close. So yeah.. I'll consider NC South for you. LOL.. Still think it is BS there aren't more of these comps.
Yeah, I noticed the same thing with the Ruger Rimfire match locations too, since I am from Illinois just east of St. Louis.
There is a guy by the name of Doug Carden. He lives there in Iowa, and puts on a Big Dawgs Steel Match every year. I think it is a little different than your typical Steel Challenge or Ruger Rimfire format....in that the targets are not necessarily all circular plates or big rectangles....and I would imagine the layout from one target to the next (the stages) varies from year to year.
Oh...yeah...his match is different too in that it is strictly just two centerfire divisions: Open and Limited. And no classes, just run whatchya brung head's up within each division.
I noticed that the first big match in the Ruger Rimfire 2010 match schedule was in Piru, CA. That is where the World Steel Challenge Shoot is held. So in short....it might just end up being a much huge-er pond with much larger sharks. Not necessarily a place for amateurs or kids to shoot at.
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JSC3ATLSCO wrote:
Yeah, I noticed the same thing with the Ruger Rimfire match locations too, since I am from Illinois just east of St. Louis.
There is a guy by the name of Doug Carden. He lives there in Iowa, and puts on a Big Dawgs Steel Match every year. I think it is a little different than your typical Steel Challenge or Ruger Rimfire format....in that the targets are not necessarily all circular plates or big rectangles....and I would imagine the layout from one target to the next (the stages) varies from year to year.
Oh...yeah...his match is different too in that it is strictly just two centerfire divisions: Open and Limited. And no classes, just run whatchya brung head's up within each division.
I noticed that the first big match in the Ruger Rimfire 2010 match schedule was in Piru, CA. That is where the World Steel Challenge Shoot is held. So in short....it might just end up being a much huge-er pond with much larger sharks. Not necessarily a place for amateurs or kids to shoot at.
Thanks Tyler.. That match is even in Eastern Iowa. Looked it up and it is difficult to see where it is located at. I found where you send your reg. to West Branch and it seems that reg. says the shoot is in Lowell, Ia. Either way it is not far away. I'll have to sign up for their e-mails when I get home from work. Hopefully I am able to at least watch and possibly participate. Thanks again!
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Hi All,
The matches that are posted are not all of them (can be more), go to www.teamrimfire.com just below 2010 schedule it has a link to region map also shows dates with nothing listed, need some clubs/ranges to step up or people to ask a club/range to host a regional match the contact info is on the web site at the bottom of the page.
Regards,
Dean
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Will there be a 2010?
Where?
When?
What courses of fire to expect (target type, SIZE and DISTANCE would help)
What rule changes?
Entry Fees?
Awards/Prizes?
Hi Alf,
I don't have all the answers but I'll give it a shot,
1st = Yes.
2nd = Ruger regional in 9 zones.
3rd = clubs/ranges need to contact Nelson Dymond ( team rimfire).
4th = all steel, any, most pistol within 15yds, rifle, no set distance but looks like within 60yds.
I have plates from 18"x24" to 6"x 6" and 8" round through 12" round.
5th = start position, rifle can be at shoulder low ready and pistol at low ready, point at flag 12' from shooting position.
6th = host range makes that call.
7th = Ruger is giving 4 guns to each regional match.
I'm adding a gun from my range, trophies for High Open/Limited/Revolver/Cowboy/Lady/Junior etc.
Hope this helps,
Dean
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Has anyone contacted/asked a local club to hold a match ?
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Ruger has updated the web page, will update again soon. Check www.teamrimfire.com for zone map and match list also.
NW match added last night.
Regards,
Dean
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Texas will be on the list soon also.
Dean
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i'd love to take part in one of these, but the closest one is hundreds of miles away. ah well, too bad
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What State.