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Title: Rampage At A Shooting Range In Saipan
Post by: twyacht on November 22, 2009, 08:46:31 PM
Seems to be a tragic trend:

http://www.newsmax.com/us/us_saipan_shooting/2009/11/20/288933.html

Gunman Opens Fire on Pacific Island Saipan; 5 Dead


Friday, November 20, 2009 9:10 AM

SAIPAN, Northern Mariana Islands -- A gunman went on a rampage on the Pacific resort island of Saipan Friday, first at a shooting range and then at a World War II historical site, killing four people and wounding six others before fatally shooting himself, officials said.

The violence claimed the lives of two men, a 4-year-old boy and a 2-year-old girl, all residents of the U.S. commonwealth, Public Safety spokesman Jason Tarkong said. Five South Korean tourists and a 4-year-old local girl were wounded.

Police said the attacker first took aim inside the shooting range in the community of Kannat Tabla, killing two men in their early 20s and the two children. A 4-year-old girl was critically injured with a gunshot wound to the chest.


About 11:30 a.m., shortly after the first attack, the suspect began firing a rifle from a white van at a group of South Koreans visiting a World War II historical spot in nearby Marpi. The South Koreans were wounded. Police said they do not believe the shooter was specifically targeting tourists in what Tarkong termed a "random drive-by shooting."

Authorities said the suspected shooter was a contract worker in his 30s or 40s from Asia, but did not provide his name or home country. However, several residents said the man was known as "Mr. Lee" and they believe he was from China.

The Pacific News Center identified the gunman as Lee Zhong Ren, an employee at the shooting range. The news station also reported that Lee left behind a suicide note that spoke of a business deal gone bad.

Police would not immediately confirm the report.

Saipan is the main island of the U.S. Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, which has about 60,000 residents and is located about 3,800 miles southwest of Hawaii. Saipan is a popular tourist destination among South Koreans, with more than 111,000 South Koreans visiting the island in 2008, according to the Marianas Visitors Authority.

Korea is the second largest market for the commonwealth, behind Japan.

The shootings created confusion and fear as authorities locked down schools and police spread out investigating the crime scenes.

The suspect was last spotted driving toward Banzai Cliff, the site where an untold number of Japanese jumped to their deaths in 1944 after the Battle of Saipan. When police officers arrived in the area, witnesses reported a man was shooting a rifle in the area.

Police discovered the van and recovered three rifles inside the vehicle.

Officials said the gunman's body was found along the edge off the cliff line near the vehicle with a .22-caliber rifle strapped around his shoulder.
He was wearing jeans, a dark T-shirt and a denim jacket.

Police reaching the scene at the shooting range discovered the four bodies next to each other, and the young girl who was the only survivor of the first attack.

The South Korean tourists were sightseeing in an area known as the Last Command Post, a World War II attraction featuring remnants of American tanks. There is also a memorial in the area dedicated to Koreans who fought in the war.

Among the South Koreans, a 39-year-old man was critically injured with a wound to his back. Two other men, both 38, were shot multiple times and in stable condition. One man was shot in the chest and both arms while the other was shot in the legs and buttock. The wounded Korean children were treated and released from the Commonwealth Health Center, authorities said.

Lt. Governor Eloy Inos called it a sad day for the commonwealth, which is heavily dependent on tourism.

"This is an unfortunate but isolated incident," he said. "It happened for reasons unbeknownst to us but we can handle this type of situation. We want to want to assure the community and our tourists that the commonwealth is still a good place to visit."

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Never thought, since this is not the first shooting range shooting, that one would need "eyes in the back of your head" when at the range.

Very sad...

Title: Re: Rampage At A Shooting Range In Saipan
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 22, 2009, 08:50:01 PM

they believe he was from China.

At least they can't blame it on "America's Gun Culture".
Title: Re: Rampage At A Shooting Range In Saipan
Post by: twyacht on November 22, 2009, 09:06:46 PM
they believe he was from China.

At least they can't blame it on "America's Gun Culture".

OR, the "spindoctors" will say the American Gun Culture corrupted that poor depressed Chinaman, or as a last resort,....

it was George Bush's fault...
Title: Re: Rampage At A Shooting Range In Saipan
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 22, 2009, 09:20:29 PM
The economy, the war on Terror, global warming, tainted food, hurricane Katrina, cancer and the clap.

                              George Bush's fault

Socialist liberal Democrats are just modern snake oil sales men
Title: Re: Rampage At A Shooting Range In Saipan
Post by: TAB on November 23, 2009, 06:16:26 AM
I though this only happens at gun free zones...   atleast thats what some here think.
Title: Re: Rampage At A Shooting Range In Saipan
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 23, 2009, 10:17:28 AM
The exception that proves the rule TAB.
Title: Re: Rampage At A Shooting Range In Saipan
Post by: tt11758 on November 23, 2009, 05:50:20 PM
The exception that proves the rule TAB.


Yeah, what's the score now?   113,412 in gun free zones and 1 at a range?
Title: Re: Rampage At A Shooting Range In Saipan
Post by: Pathfinder on November 23, 2009, 07:00:12 PM

Yeah, what's the score now?   113,412 in gun free zones and 1 at a range?

And a drive-by at that. TAB, yours has to be one of your lamest of lame-ass statement yet!
Title: Re: Rampage At A Shooting Range In Saipan
Post by: 1911 Junkie on November 23, 2009, 07:14:10 PM
Don't forget about the mom that blew her sons brains out at the range.
Title: Re: Rampage At A Shooting Range In Saipan
Post by: tombogan03884 on November 23, 2009, 07:16:18 PM
That's a grand total of 2 out of how many ?
And this one wasn't even in America.
Title: Re: Rampage At A Shooting Range In Saipan
Post by: TAB on November 23, 2009, 11:37:51 PM
I recall 3 that happend this year and a few people killing themselfs.
Title: Re: Rampage At A Shooting Range In Saipan
Post by: MAUSERMAN on November 23, 2009, 11:50:10 PM
If your so F-ed up you feel the need to kill yourself please do so, but leave me the F out. Sometimes I feel mental weakness is a product of how easy life has become. We no  longer have to fight to survive all we do is work go shopping and watch TV. >:(
Title: Re: Rampage At A Shooting Range In Saipan
Post by: Ping on November 23, 2009, 11:59:23 PM
Absolutely a shame. Hate to hear anyone dying from gunshot wounds that do not deserve it. I would rather a person deconstruct themselves than taking other lives due to their selfish desires. Tired of some who wreak the collateral damage from those who have given up on the gift of life and would rather choose to take it.
Title: Re: Rampage At A Shooting Range In Saipan
Post by: tt11758 on November 24, 2009, 03:01:37 PM
If your so F-ed up you feel the need to kill yourself please do so, but leave me the F out. Sometimes I feel mental weakness is a product of how easy life has become. We no  longer have to fight to survive all we do is work go shopping and watch TV. >:(


That'll change just as soon as Oba-Mao and congress transform this country into the 3rd world shithole they want it to become.
Title: Re: Rampage At A Shooting Range In Saipan
Post by: billt on November 26, 2009, 06:15:15 AM
Most gun range do in's are suicides. Even the mom in Florida capped herself after wasting her son. Here in Phoenix we have 3 indoor ranges, and all of them have had multiple suicides from time to time. Once during the Summer it was too hot, but I wanted to shoot, so I went to one of the larger indoor ranges. When I got there squad cars were everywhere along with a half a mile of yellow tape everywhere. You guessed it, suicide. Turns out some mexican woman shows up, rents a gun, then after the instructor was confident enough to leave her alone, she tried to clean her upper palate with a 9 MM round.

I don't go to indoor ranges anymore because of this, along with the fact I was muzzle swept TWICE in one afternoon at one. It's a further drive for me, but my gun club has several nice outdoor ranges. Not fun when it's 110 degrees out, but at least I don't have to worry about an idiot hitting me.  Bill T.
Title: Re: Rampage At A Shooting Range In Saipan
Post by: TAB on November 26, 2009, 09:04:55 PM
Most gun range do in's are suicides. Even the mom in Florida capped herself after wasting her son. Here in Phoenix we have 3 indoor ranges, and all of them have had multiple suicides from time to time. Once during the Summer it was too hot, but I wanted to shoot, so I went to one of the larger indoor ranges. When I got there squad cars were everywhere along with a half a mile of yellow tape everywhere. You guessed it, suicide. Turns out some mexican woman shows up, rents a gun, then after the instructor was confident enough to leave her alone, she tried to clean her upper palate with a 9 MM round.

I don't go to indoor ranges anymore because of this, along with the fact I was muzzle swept TWICE in one afternoon at one. It's a further drive for me, but my gun club has several nice outdoor ranges. Not fun when it's 110 degrees out, but at least I don't have to worry about an idiot hitting me.  Bill T.


thats why most ranges will not rent guns to people that are alone.   Sucks, but thats life.