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Member Section => Reloading => Topic started by: Magoo541 on October 19, 2012, 10:50:09 PM

Title: Time to buy a Chronograph
Post by: Magoo541 on October 19, 2012, 10:50:09 PM
Thanks to work, a two week per deim check, and a lot of cheap food for the next two weeks I'll have some cash to buy a chronograph and maybe a timer.

I've read a number of reviews for the major chronos available and they all seem to have issues except the Oehler Model 35 but at over $550 its not going to be in the running.  I have shot over a Shooting Chrony F1 and had a few issues, mostly operator error shooting too close but some legitimate errors but at ~$95 I guess you get what you pay for.

So what do you guys use, what works, what doesn't and what would you get with a budget of say... $250?
Title: Re: Time to buy a Chronograph
Post by: TAB on October 19, 2012, 11:51:05 PM
Check craigslist and local ranges/ gun clubs.  I picked mine up used for $75.   some one was up grading.  I don't need perfect accuracy, 10-25 fps means nothing for the reloading I am doing.  I am not itrested in bench rest shooting, nor will I be trying to just barly make pf.
Title: Re: Time to buy a Chronograph
Post by: kmitch200 on October 20, 2012, 01:53:00 AM
I have a Shooting Chrony Beta Master that has been GREAT.
(wonder why they didn't name it the Master Beta?)

Most of the errors I've had can be traced to sun angle to the timers. Using my photography tripod fixed those since it is adjustable 6 ways from Sunday.  

Readout at the bench, (which with the 15' cord puts the chrony far enough away to disregard muzzle blast errors), stores plenty of shots. I have never filled up the memory - 60 shots - to the point it drops old shots to record new ones. I record a number of shots from a group of loads, not every single one out of 100 rifle/pistol shots.
Best $100 I've spent on shooting stuff.

I guess the printer would be cool if I wanted to upgrade but I just take notes. Since I'm already taking notes on the loads performance, recoil and group, no big deal.
Title: Re: Time to buy a Chronograph
Post by: alfsauve on October 20, 2012, 06:53:06 AM
I too have the Beta Master. A good buy.  And I'd recommend the Beta over the Alpha or F1.

. I've seen Pact &CED a lot at matches. Have never seen an RCBS though.

I will say that Ken Oehler  seems like a nice guy.  On another forum he personally responded and helped me with a problem with my Chrony.
The price of Oehlers is a stumbling block.
Title: Re: Time to buy a Chronograph
Post by: Magoo541 on October 20, 2012, 12:13:55 PM
I was leaning towards the Beta because of the price point and the remote display so I am comforted by both of your experiences.  I have my daughter as my printer  ;D cheap and never runs out of ink. 

Now any other opinions or comments either on Chronos or timers?  Mr. Cook, les or any of you fellow competitors?
Title: Re: Time to buy a Chronograph
Post by: kmitch200 on October 20, 2012, 06:19:55 PM
Now any other opinions or comments either on Chronos or timers?  Mr. Cook, les or any of you fellow competitors?

I downloaded a shot timer app but haven't tried it out yet. There are a bunch out there.
The price was perfect....FREE.
Title: Re: Time to buy a Chronograph
Post by: GeorgeCook on October 20, 2012, 08:40:20 PM
I was leaning towards the Beta because of the price point and the remote display so I am comforted by both of your experiences.  I have my daughter as my printer  ;D cheap and never runs out of ink. 

Now any other opinions or comments either on Chronos or timers?  Mr. Cook, les or any of you fellow competitors?

For practice I recommend the CED 7000; it goes for $120. It can be attached to your belt (recommended) for about $15. Also this timer can be recharged. There are other good timers out there such as PACT, but I like this timer for it's ease of use.

http://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/CED-7000-Timer-P168.aspx (http://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/CED-7000-Timer-P168.aspx)

http://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/CED-7000-Timer-Rotating-Belt-Clip-P167.aspx (http://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/CED-7000-Timer-Rotating-Belt-Clip-P167.aspx)
Title: Re: Time to buy a Chronograph
Post by: Magoo541 on October 30, 2012, 09:14:56 PM
Check craigslist and local ranges/ gun clubs.  I picked mine up used for $75.   some one was up grading.  I don't need perfect accuracy, 10-25 fps means nothing for the reloading I am doing.  I am not itrested in bench rest shooting, nor will I be trying to just barly make pf.
I have done exactly that and all I've found is a Tag Heuer that I'd love to have but too rich for my blood.  I'll be using it to check a couple of hand loads for Power Factor so I need something decent, although I'd love to have an Oehler Model 35.

I think I'll give the Beta Master a whirl and post a range report after I run some rounds across it, not through it (had this happen to our club Chrony when I had it signed out by a fellow member-who immediately went up and paid for it).  :)

Still not sure about a timer yet, there's a thread on the Cafe that has me pondering my choices but I'm leaning towards either the 7000 or the  CE Pocket Pro.  Decisions, decisions...
Title: Re: Time to buy a Chronograph
Post by: Magoo541 on November 11, 2012, 03:17:12 PM
So I pulled the trigger on a Beta Master Chrony this afternoon but I figured I'd try the IPSC timer on my new Iphone 4s before I spend $120+ on a quality timer since this is just for practice.  I think I'll put the extra money towards some "snivel" gear for future shooting match comfort, like a dual burner heater for a 5 gallon propane tank and a cart because being wet and cold can ruin a shooting match for my caddy-err... daughter.  :'(

 I don't like being cold either but I was running and gunning enough to keep my feet and butt warm ;D

Title: Re: Time to buy a Chronograph
Post by: les snyder on November 12, 2012, 02:42:19 PM
if you are into USPSA style competition, a PACT will do double duty as chrono and timer...if you are new to practical pistol shooting a timer is very valuable (I donated my old Competition Electronics Pro to a couple of friends that were running a Cowboy Action match)..... I personally do not own a chrono, as I've always been able to use a friend's
Title: Re: Time to buy a Chronograph
Post by: DeltaM on November 26, 2012, 05:30:10 PM
I have the F1 rigged up inside an old storage building behind our house.  I consider it an entry level chrony.  I have to use incandescent bulbs as fluorescent bulbs flicker enough to mess it up.  If I had it to do over again, I'd get something with remote reading capability as putting the gun down, walking to read the thing after each shot is kind of a pain.  The F1's sweet spot is kind of small as well.  I nicked one of the uprights once.  After that, I put a couple blocks of wood in front of the eyes as I could see a wayward shot wrecking the thing if I got stupid with a shot.  I haven't hit the wood with over a 400 rounds, YET. I get an error message about one in 6 shots, most likely from muzzle blast.  For the $80.00 I paid for it, I guess you get what you pay for.
Title: Re: Time to buy a Chronograph
Post by: billt on November 27, 2012, 07:25:46 AM
I purchased the Competition Electronics Pro Digital Model. I chose it over the Shooting Chrony because it has a much larger shooting area over the sky screens. It is very light, and quick to set up. It holds something like 99 strings of fire in it's memory, and has a nice big easy to read LCD screen. It runs on a single 9 volt battery that will leak before you wear it out. It was right around $100.00. They do go on sale from time to time. I set it up on a camera tripod.

https://www.competitionelectronics.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=20&category_id=7&vmcchk=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=79