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Title: Where's all the Powder, that's what I want to know. Where's the powder.
Post by: alfsauve on August 13, 2014, 08:29:52 AM
I've not "hoarded" by any means and have come through the shortages of primers and bullets just fine.  By the time I needed them they were available.   Powder however, is getting rather short at the command bunker and there's none out there to be had.

One dim spot (cause it certainly isn't "bright" yet) is that more places seem to be accepting backorders, which MIGHT indicate they're starting to see some powder show up.

Did find these two sites which might be of some help.

http://gunbot.net/reloading/powder/ (http://gunbot.net/reloading/powder/)

http://www.shootandreload.com (http://www.shootandreload.com/)

Just for reference, I'm looking mainly for Alliant Power Pistol, but will take some Unique as well.   Hoping the new Cabela's has put some aside for the grand opening.  I plan to be in the first 100 or so people at the door.

Title: Re: Where's all the Powder, that's what I want to know. Where's the powder.
Post by: alfsauve on August 13, 2014, 08:25:40 PM
Oops, one of the links was old.  I've corrected it in the original post.
Title: Re: Where's all the Powder, that's what I want to know. Where's the powder.
Post by: kmitch200 on August 13, 2014, 09:00:13 PM
Yeah, it's Christmas every day if you're reloading for 300 magnums.
Even moreso if you have a 50 BMG.

Pistols? Not so much.
Title: Re: Where's all the Powder, that's what I want to know. Where's the powder.
Post by: PegLeg45 on August 13, 2014, 11:28:26 PM
Any of you use Sporting Clays shotgun powder for 45ACP?

Several reloaders I know like it.
Title: Re: Where's all the Powder, that's what I want to know. Where's the powder.
Post by: alfsauve on August 14, 2014, 05:10:02 AM
Any of you use Sporting Clays shotgun powder for 45ACP?

I think you mean Universal Clays.  Yes that, Tightgroup and Longshot are also used in pistol cartridges.   But I don't see them available either.
Title: Re: Where's all the Powder, that's what I want to know. Where's the powder.
Post by: PegLeg45 on August 14, 2014, 02:57:00 PM
I think you mean Universal Clays.  Yes that, Tightgroup and Longshot are also used in pistol cartridges.   But I don't see them available either.

Thanks Alf, I knew I could count on ya to keep me straight. Yes, Universal Clays is what I was trying to recall.

I have several pounds of Titegroup myself, but have never tried Universal.

There are a couple of little "hole-in-the-wall" gun shops around my region that usually have stuff when no one else does. One of them was where I found primers last year when no one else had them.
Title: Re: Where's all the Powder, that's what I want to know. Where's the powder.
Post by: alfsauve on August 14, 2014, 04:47:39 PM
Cleaned the press, have 500 primers in loading tubes, installed the .38Short Colt dies and shell plate.  Have the bins filled with bullets and brass.  Now if powder would just show up!   

I've signed up to shoot the Southern Regional ICORE next month.   I need practice.   I need to run through about 1,000 rounds in the next 4 week  AND take 250-400 rounds to the match.

Here's hoping that Cabela's has some at grand opening.

Title: Re: Where's all the Powder, that's what I want to know. Where's the powder.
Post by: kmitch200 on August 15, 2014, 01:08:33 PM
Here's hoping that Cabela's has some at grand opening.

Might want to pitch a tent.
I went to a Black Friday sale once at Cabela's and got there an hour before opening.
I thought I was early...I think I was about 275th in line!
Title: Re: Where's all the Powder, that's what I want to know. Where's the powder.
Post by: alfsauve on August 15, 2014, 02:16:37 PM
I plan to be there at 9am for an 11am opening.   It's a weekday, so I'm hoping that'll cut down on the crowd a little.

Title: Re: Where's all the Powder, that's what I want to know. Where's the powder.
Post by: alfsauve on August 15, 2014, 02:21:31 PM
I had put away 1# of the new 300MP powder designed for "mag pistol".

I loaded up as many .357 as that one pound allowed last week, and took them to the range today.  LOTS of muzzle flash from my 6" 686.  Good solid pounding.  Accuracy was good.  I held a 2" circle at 10yds... standing... double action.  (Slow but still double action.)

When powder supplies return to normal I'm going to go back to Power Pistol for medium level .357 and stick with H110 for .357 Max. 

At least I got to put 200 rounds down range today.   Can't use up my precious remaining competition .38spl, 38sc and 9mm rounds.

Title: Re: Where's all the Powder, that's what I want to know. Where's the powder.
Post by: alfsauve on August 15, 2014, 09:15:51 PM

The 300MP may give a lot of spitzen and sparken, but did group well.  Ain't no JM, but I'm pleased.

(http://sauve.smugmug.com/Gun-General/i-V6qcdCt/0/M/081514Target686-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Where's all the Powder, that's what I want to know. Where's the powder.
Post by: Solus on August 16, 2014, 01:09:06 PM
The 300MP may give a lot of spitzen and sparken, but did group well.  Ain't no JM, but I'm pleased.


Don't think anyone can be JM. 

I watch him shoot and wonder how in the hell HE can be JM.   ;D
Title: Re: Where's all the Powder, that's what I want to know. Where's the powder.
Post by: alfsauve on August 17, 2014, 07:25:13 PM
Breaking News from Gun Bot.

   NOT


Sportsman's Warehouse has 50BMG in stock.   DUH!
Title: Re: Where's all the Powder, that's what I want to know. Where's the powder.
Post by: alfsauve on August 18, 2014, 01:33:33 PM
Making my list of powders I will buy.   I mean, I want Power Pistol, but I'll take anything that suitable for 9mm and .38spl.  So I was making a list.

You know, Unique, Blue Dot, TightGroup, etc.  I'm trying to limit it to those powders I can also use in .357Mag, .45ACP and .44 Mag.  So I'm looking in my reloading manuals and I went on-line to check some sources including Alliant's database.

So when did BE86 come out?   (Rhetorical ?  don't answer that.  I've quickly caught up to speed from the other forums.)   That was about all Alliant had in their database.  Which is cool.  For those who don't know it's a reformulated cousin of Unique.  Not that there's any of if around, but still another choice.    But maybe, Cabela's has some for the grand opening.  And maybe I'm not the absolutely last, desperate reloader who's heard about it.

The real question is anyone actually used it?

(first person only, please.  Don't point me to other forums.  I'm already reading those.)

Title: Re: Blue Dot Available
Post by: alfsauve on August 19, 2014, 05:07:15 AM
So this morning, Sportman's Warehouse has Blue Dot available.  An okay pistol powder.

That's good news.  Alliant is slowly getting powder out there.

Bad news is SM will only let you order 2#s.   So at $20/lb + $28 hazmat fee + shipping, it works out to almost $40/lb.   I'll pass.
Title: Re: Where's all the Powder, that's what I want to know. Where's the powder.
Post by: alfsauve on August 20, 2014, 04:48:58 PM
Found a supplier who has powder.  Not a lot, not every type, but a good variety.

The pricing, however is rather steep.  I'm not complaining.  That's the stores prerogative.  The higher prices keep people from buying it who don't really need it right now.  But it is a little steep for me.   But at least someone has some if you really, really, really, need it.

e.g., CFE Pistol is $36/lb.  They have 17 in stock.   With Hazmat though 4 pounds would end up costing almost $45/lb.

https://reloadingunlimited.com/ (https://reloadingunlimited.com/)


After tomorrow I may rethink this though.  If I don't score some soon, I may be willing to buy an 8lb container at their price. 

Got to remember that for pistols, powder only contributes about 10% to 15% of the cost.  So doubling the price of powder only raises the cost per round a couple of pennies.