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Member Section => NFA Items => Topic started by: ccd on March 11, 2015, 03:03:08 PM

Title: Make rimfire suppressors NonNFA items
Post by: ccd on March 11, 2015, 03:03:08 PM
   I know this isnt an original thought, but I think it is time for the gun communitiy to ask for our GOP congresscritters to take a proactive step for us gunowners, instead of reacting to the buffoons @ BATFE. I think the most logical and winnable step would be to make rimfire suppressors NonNFA  by making them equivalent to regular firearms themselves. Just needing a 4473 to purchase. The long term goal would be to make all suppressors NonNFA. In the short term rimfire suppresors should be fairly easy to pass and promote to the general public at large as to their benefits.
Title: Re: Make rimfire suppressors NonNFA items
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 11, 2015, 03:22:37 PM
All suppressors.
Use the reasoning that mufflers are a safety device while muzzle breaks, which are completely unregulated make guns MORE dangerous to peoples hearing.
After all, doesn't EVERYONE support "commonsense gun safety" ? 
Title: Re: Make rimfire suppressors NonNFA items
Post by: alfsauve on March 11, 2015, 03:48:05 PM
So how does one distinguish a suppressor made for 1/2-28 threaded .22 barrel from one made for a 1/2-28 .223 barrel?

It could be a step in the right direction, but devils in the details.
Title: Re: Make rimfire suppressors NonNFA items
Post by: Solus on March 11, 2015, 04:18:49 PM
You put a sign on it that says   "Rimfire Only"

No Gun signs work, why not these?
Title: Re: Make rimfire suppressors NonNFA items
Post by: alfsauve on March 11, 2015, 04:26:11 PM
You put a sign on it that says   "Rimfire Only"

No Gun signs work, why not these?

You mean like these muzzle brakes?   

(http://sauve.smugmug.com/Gun-General/i-qCPKcD5/0/X2/IMG_0699-X2.jpg)

Title: Re: Make rimfire suppressors NonNFA items
Post by: Solus on March 11, 2015, 06:02:46 PM
that will never work, Alf,  no  slashed red circle. 

You act like you don't know anything about human behavior.
Title: Re: Make rimfire suppressors NonNFA items
Post by: MikeBjerum on March 18, 2015, 11:06:00 PM
I'm with Tom:  Don't make it more difficult than needed - Remove restrict on all silencers/suppressors.  Next step is "short barreled" rifles.
Title: Re: Make rimfire suppressors NonNFA items
Post by: brushmore on March 19, 2015, 09:56:14 AM
I'm all for remove any all restrictions on suppressors.  Unfortunately, the way things are shaping up we are going to have to play some major defense with our gun rights over the next two years.  We absolutely should be on the offense right now but I don't think that's going to happen.
Title: Re: Make rimfire suppressors NonNFA items
Post by: Big Frank on March 19, 2015, 02:35:09 PM
If we had a pro-gun president, congress, attorney general, and supreme court all at the same time we would be all set but we're lucky when we get two of those at a time. I would love to own a suppressor, SBR, etc. without restrictions but it will probably never happen. All we can do is keep trying and hoping for the best.
Title: Re: Make rimfire suppressors NonNFA items
Post by: tombogan03884 on March 19, 2015, 02:54:28 PM
Some places you need to add Gov, Legislature and State AG to the list.
Generally speaking, the only FEDERAL regulation on suppressors is the tax stamp, all the rest are STATE laws.
Title: Re: Make rimfire suppressors NonNFA items
Post by: MikeBjerum on March 20, 2015, 08:07:43 AM
The best defense is a strong offense.  We need to move forward on cleaning things up, and keep them off balance.  If we only react to their attacks and infringements they control the dialog, and all we do is limit losses.  It is time to start taking back what we have lost!
Title: Re: Make rimfire suppressors NonNFA items
Post by: mortdooley on April 05, 2015, 09:46:57 AM
There is a man at capandball.eu who shoots a variety of WW2 sub guns that have been converted to  fire semiauto only. The outward appearance is unchanged and they still fire from an open bolt so if SBR was overturned the Antis would still wet their pants from looks alone.

The whole 1934 law was hysteria from Hollywood gangster movies, there was no real problem.
Title: Re: Make rimfire suppressors NonNFA items
Post by: tombogan03884 on April 06, 2015, 06:19:08 AM
There is a man at capandball.eu who shoots a variety of WW2 sub guns that have been converted to  fire semiauto only. The outward appearance is unchanged and they still fire from an open bolt so if SBR was overturned the Antis would still wet their pants from looks alone.

The whole 1934 law was hysteria from Hollywood gangster movies, there was no real problem.

A few comments on the good point you make.
The major selling points for NFA were Prohibition gangsters, and ,so called "Automobile bandits". Neither issue had any direct connection with guns beyond being tools, both were equally, maybe more dependent on the automobile than the fire arm, and both issues went away when the true issues were addressed. Gangsters quit having beer wars when the ridiculous and unenforceable "Prohibition" was repealed, and the reign of terror of the likes of Dillinger and Pretty Boy Floyd was brought under control by expanding cooperation between police jurisdictions and the expansion of the FBI into a "National Police Force"
At that point the NFA no longer served any useful purpose EXCEPT, It was a TAX thought up by the Dems.