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Title: Winchester mod 94 question.
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 23, 2015, 06:16:22 AM
A friend of mine who knows I'm into guns has a Winchester 94 problem.
Put the safety on and pull the trigger, the hammer drops to the half cock position.
Take the safety off pull the trigger, same thing.
Hammer stops about a 1/4 -1/2 inch from the firing pin.
Looking into the gap I can see a metal block and what looks like the end of some sort of catch below that.
I now squat about lever actions so I'm asking the "Brain trust", what's the problem, and how do you fix it ?
Title: Re: Winchester mod 94 question.
Post by: MikeBjerum on October 23, 2015, 07:45:09 AM
It sounds like what you are seeing is the Locking Bolt.  Captured in the top of the Locking Bolt is the Firing Pin Striker. 

My first action, if it were mine would be to start with a VERY thorough cleaning.  It could be gummed parts not engaging or moving freely (a crudded and stuck striker would stop the hammer and not fire).  At this time, also inspect for wear and breaks.

This could be a one part issue of a broken cross bolt safety that is blocking the hammer all the time, or it may be multiple issues, as in safety and either broken or stuck striker.

Even though I am known to say that cleaning guns is highly overrated, this is a time to slowly and methodically do a good cleaning and inspection, part by part.
Title: Re: Winchester mod 94 question.
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 23, 2015, 07:53:15 AM
Thanks M58.
Is disassembly fairly straight forward ?
Something that can be done by some one with NO experience with Winchester, or should I send him to a pro ?
I owe him a bigger favor than just trouble shooting will account for.
Title: Re: Winchester mod 94 question.
Post by: jaybet on October 23, 2015, 10:11:31 AM
I've seen some 94 disassembly stuff on the interweb. When I'm diving into the unknown hardware I watch a few videos and take the most sensible info from each.
Title: Re: Winchester mod 94 question.
Post by: Big Frank on October 23, 2015, 03:01:13 PM
YouTube has dis-assembly and reassembly videos for the M94AE (Angle Eject) and older M94s too. Plus I found a page that takes you through it step by step. http://www.castbullet.com/misc/tdown.htm
Title: Re: Winchester mod 94 question.
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 23, 2015, 03:54:18 PM
Thank you. I knew I'd get the answers I needed.
Title: Re: Winchester mod 94 question.
Post by: ellis4538 on October 23, 2015, 06:27:01 PM
Might want to PM Michael Bane directly and ask him.  Maybe Marshal also.


Richard
Title: Re: Winchester mod 94 question.
Post by: MikeBjerum on October 23, 2015, 06:31:12 PM
Tom,

I believe you have your answer already, but I believe that you would have the skills needed if you utilize the web, take your time and be observant, and have an organized work area.  Dang!  If a guy like me can to a Ruger MarkIII, you can do this  ;)
Title: Re: Winchester mod 94 question.
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 24, 2015, 06:12:54 AM
Might want to PM Michael Bane directly and ask him.  Maybe Marshal also.


Richard

I didn't want to bother MB since he's juggling so many commitments while glimpsing, and Marshal and M'ette are busy with a competition in Branson Mo.

Tom,

I believe you have your answer already, but I believe that you would have the skills needed if you utilize the web, take your time and be observant, and have an organized work area.  Dang!  If a guy like me can to a Ruger MarkIII, you can do this  ;)

Your faith in me is touching.
Or is it that you're just touched ? LOL

Thanks again all .


Title: Re: Winchester mod 94 question.
Post by: MikeBjerum on October 24, 2015, 09:48:33 AM
I didn't want to bother MB since he's juggling so many commitments while glimpsing, and Marshal and M'ette are busy with a competition in Branson Mo.

Your faith in me is touching.
Or is it that you're just touched ? LOL

Thanks again all .

Crown!  It is all about the volume of Crown in my system

M'ette seems to have found many suitors in Branson, so I believe Marshal has plenty of time.  As for MB, his only issue these days are the narcotics and other happy pills to deal with the pain  :o

On the topic of narcotics, remember MB's issues with a Dremel, and if he advises it, it is all the drugs talking.
Title: Re: Winchester mod 94 question.
Post by: Big Frank on October 24, 2015, 02:07:54 PM
Numrich Gun Parts has a diagram of some M94 variants and a bunch of parts. You need to know if it's an AE or standard model pre '64 or post '64. It's easy to search brands by letter to find any brand you want. https://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufacturers/Winchester-33573/Rifles-42602/94Series-40353/94Post64Series-34345/94Post64TopEjectStandard-34341.htm?results=All
Title: Re: Winchester mod 94 question.
Post by: ellis4538 on October 24, 2015, 05:51:53 PM
Marshal didn't make the trip because of an ailing family pet.

Richard
Title: Re: Winchester mod 94 question.
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 25, 2015, 06:08:08 AM
Marshal didn't make the trip because of an ailing family pet.

Richard


Sorry to hear that. Explains why M'ette had to borrow someone else's husband to torque down her corset.
Title: Re: Winchester mod 94 question.
Post by: ellis4538 on October 25, 2015, 04:07:54 PM
I wish they'd install a "LIKE" button here!

Richard
Title: Re: Winchester mod 94 question.
Post by: alfsauve on October 25, 2015, 07:22:13 PM
I wish they'd install a "LIKE" button here!

And what is it exactly you "like"?   Torquing down M'mette's corset? 
Title: Re: Winchester mod 94 question.
Post by: MikeBjerum on October 25, 2015, 08:33:25 PM
And what is it exactly you "like"?   Torquing down M'mette's corset?

That could get a "like"

I think we also need a "Squirrel" button to mark drifts that we like approve of
Title: Re: Winchester mod 94 question.
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 26, 2015, 06:05:28 AM
Saw on Face Book she came in 2nd.
Title: Re: Winchester mod 94 question.
Post by: MikeBjerum on October 26, 2015, 07:05:30 AM
Second best old lady in Missouri  ;D
Title: Re: Winchester mod 94 question.
Post by: tombogan03884 on October 26, 2015, 07:42:22 AM
Just remember, you may be out of range of her testicle clipping deer rifle, but the flying monkeys still know where you live.  LOL