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Title: Easy way to add a rail to a 1911
Post by: Big Frank on January 14, 2017, 11:10:15 PM
This is a neat idea I never heard of. There are 2 different style grips to choose from. The second one looks better to me.

https://www.recovertactical.com/collections/1911/products/cc3h-1911-grips-and-rail-system?variant=18661627015

https://www.recovertactical.com/collections/1911/products/cc3p-1911-grips-and-rail-system
Title: Re: Easy way to add a rail to a 1911
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 15, 2017, 05:57:30 AM
I hate the idea of hanging crap off my guns.
If JMB wanted you to have a light ,coffee maker ,and cell phone he would have added a USB port.
The ONLY thing I would consider adding to a pistol is a reddot sight, but now a days it's hard to find even a revolver that doesn't have one of those ugly ass rails marring it's lines.
What really irks me is that with laser grips and guide rod lights and lasers, there's no need for it.
Title: Re: Easy way to add a rail to a 1911
Post by: Rastus on January 15, 2017, 08:07:30 AM
I was going to say those grip rail things really look sharp but now I'm afraid of pissin' off Tom.  He invoked JMB and, so, yes I don't like the rail things so much on the 1911 in a natural sense being heavy metal and all.  I have a laser in the grip of one of mine.....but that plastic add on...I dunno...maybe I'm pickin' up on a Tupperware virus?
Title: Re: Easy way to add a rail to a 1911
Post by: Big Frank on January 15, 2017, 03:14:25 PM
I think a light on a bedside gun would be a good idea. There's no way I know of to put one on one of my Paras without gluing or screwing a rail to the dust cover which I don't want to do. If I had a standard 1911 I would probably get these grips and put a light on it. If I didn't like it I could take them back off and there isn't any permanent change.
Title: Re: Easy way to add a rail to a 1911
Post by: les snyder on January 15, 2017, 03:24:41 PM
write a check to Caspian for $302 and get a rail frame  8)
Title: Re: Easy way to add a rail to a 1911
Post by: ellis4538 on January 15, 2017, 04:39:42 PM
I vaguely remember a company that made an addon rail.....Dawson maybe......Wilson maybe.  Drill and tap a couple holes if memory serves me.

Richard
Title: Re: Easy way to add a rail to a 1911
Post by: TAB on January 15, 2017, 05:13:15 PM
https://youtu.be/H0qe45Z8wfk
Title: Re: Easy way to add a rail to a 1911
Post by: MikeBjerum on January 15, 2017, 07:23:19 PM
I vaguely remember a company that made an addon rail.....Dawson maybe......Wilson maybe.  Drill and tap a couple holes if memory serves me.

Richard

Rail is available in sizes that can easily be added to the frame or the slide.  It is all about the machine work, and adding rails is not difficult.
Title: Re: Easy way to add a rail to a 1911
Post by: Big Frank on January 15, 2017, 07:25:47 PM
I vaguely remember a company that made an addon rail.....Dawson maybe......Wilson maybe.  Drill and tap a couple holes if memory serves me.

Richard

I've seen those but that's what I like about these rail/grip combinations, you don't make any permanent changes to the gun. No milling, drilling or anything like that.
Title: Re: Easy way to add a rail to a 1911
Post by: Big Frank on January 16, 2017, 02:02:39 PM
I hate the idea of hanging crap off my guns.
If JMB wanted you to have a light ,coffee maker ,and cell phone he would have added a USB port.
The ONLY thing I would consider adding to a pistol is a reddot sight, but now a days it's hard to find even a revolver that doesn't have one of those ugly ass rails marring it's lines.
What really irks me is that with laser grips and guide rod lights and lasers, there's no need for it.

I was thinking about this comment last night and came to the conclusion that although JMB didn't put an attachment for an oil lamp on the 1911 he didn't anticipate high intensity weapons lights that are small enough and light enough to mount on a handgun. The man was a freakin' genius but couldn't predict what would happen 100 years in the future.
Title: Re: Easy way to add a rail to a 1911
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 16, 2017, 03:12:41 PM
I was thinking about this comment last night and came to the conclusion that although JMB didn't put an attachment for an oil lamp on the 1911 he didn't anticipate high intensity weapons lights that are small enough and light enough to mount on a handgun. Tyhe man was a freakin' genius but couldn't predict what would happen 100 years in the future.



LOL I'm not so sure about that, we're still using 2 of his pistols and his machine guns, Hiram Maxim can't say that.  His only competitor is Richard Gatling.
Title: Re: Easy way to add a rail to a 1911
Post by: Timothy on January 16, 2017, 04:39:30 PM
That was my first thought too, Tom!

Haha
Title: Re: Easy way to add a rail to a 1911
Post by: TAB on January 16, 2017, 04:47:40 PM
the m 2 is not going away any time soon.


its used land, sea and air. 
Title: Re: Easy way to add a rail to a 1911
Post by: tombogan03884 on January 17, 2017, 05:56:00 AM
Not bad for a gun that started out with a water jacket.
Title: Re: Easy way to add a rail to a 1911
Post by: Big Frank on January 17, 2017, 02:25:16 PM
I worked on a lot of M2s in the army and almost all were made at A.C. Spark Plug in my home town of Flint, MI during WWII. I also worked on M85 .50 caliber machine guns. There were some things better about the M85 but the M2 was a better all-around gun. Wikipedia says the M85 was extremely unreliable but I didn't see that problem. It wasn't a complicated design like they said either. It had about the same number of parts as the M2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M85_machine_gun
Title: Re: Easy way to add a rail to a 1911
Post by: TAB on January 18, 2017, 04:01:29 PM
the main reason they made the m85 was to make it smaller....  the bad part is they have different links, so if you get the wrong one you are screwed.   
Title: Re: Easy way to add a rail to a 1911
Post by: Big Frank on January 18, 2017, 06:37:31 PM
IIRC on the M2 the round is pulled backward out of the link before it feeds and on the M85 it just pushes through like most other machine guns.