The Down Range Forum
Member Section => Tactical Rifle & Carbine => Topic started by: RK0281 on September 13, 2008, 04:54:40 PM
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End of the world which one do you want?
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AK is excellent for Russian peasants who don't know much more than working swine
Need something with more kick, not a 5.56, more like a 7.62, but with more oomph than the AK round. I would go with an M-14 SOCOM II - full-grown, grown up cartridge, short and light(er) weapon, capable for short range massive firepower as well as reaching out and touching someone at long distances.
my 100,000,000 Icelandic kroner.
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End of the world? AR fo rthe wife, SOCOM for me.
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Gotta be 308 or 30-06
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End of the world? Then would it really matter? ... I like them both. Both are good choices. But, I guess if it was at the end of the world times.. probably the AK. Why? Because if the price of ammo does continue to increase like the last few years.. by the time the end of the world comes... there would be no way I could have affored any 5.56.. so I guess since I could find some 7.62x39mm far cheaper.. I guess it would come in handy to actual be able to use the AK... unless.. unless... lol one had a 7.62x39mm AR.... ;) Well, so there you have it.. get both in one lol.
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If you are shooting at distance you want a .308 or similar , 200 yds or under a AK is my choice.
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As far as a end of the world scenario? Hell, a 50 BMG would be fine. ;D
AK or AR, kinda tough,... Would there be a group of "Red Dawn" rebels to carry on? I would settle for a AR-10 in .308.
BUT, I would have to give kudos to an AK for durability, and ammo. Saiga makes a nice AK in .308 as well, and probably have one of each.
End of the world? My truck is getting filled with them all....Including a "Tommy Gun" ::)
Anyone know a deal on a BAR?
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Simple: AK. More of them out there than anything else, and ammo is available just about as easiily. Yes given the choice an M14 is more versitile (larger game hunting and defense) but availability is key. I can go ANYWHERE in the world and find an AK and ammo.
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Either one as long as it's a 12 gauge. ;D
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If you are in a situation where you are hunting deer one day and fighting attackers the next, or constantly moving so you may not have the chance or equipment to keep your rifle as clean as at the range, or in an area where shots are less than 200 yards, AK or SKS is the only way to go. In an EOW survival situation .223 does not have the versatility to be an only rifle.
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Now that I voted AK, for all the previously stated sound reasons, I need to go get one.
RK0281, how much time do we have??? Six months same as cash a good idea?
Mac.
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I'll take the AR or SOCOM for end of the world. While AK ammo is/might be cheaper at that time, .223 or .308 will probably be more readlily available. Between the AR and SOCOM probably the SOCOM for power.
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I'll take the AR or SOCOM for end of the world. While AK ammo is/might be cheaper at that time, .223 or .308 will probably be more readlily available. Between the AR and SOCOM probably the SOCOM for power.
You may have a good point there Desert Marine, .308 would also be better for larger game but for what you would pay for a SOCOM you could buy 2 AK's or 4 SKS's, Or one of either and more ammo ;D
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In terms of the mission requirement, I have to go with an AK. I have both in semi-auto and one AK-variant as a full auto. The Valmet will flat out rock when called upon! Someone brought up the M-14, which is a great second choice.
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You may have a good point there Desert Marine, .308 would also be better for larger game but for what you would pay for a SOCOM you could buy 2 AK's or 4 SKS's, Or one of either and more ammo ;D
Ok, but for your reasons then I would go with the AR. I see more ARs available and at that time, might even be at discount. For ammo availablity a 30-06 would be a better choice except for no military type weapons readily available for it. Every little store throughout the country has 30-06. Marines of the 5th & 6th Marine Regiments were making up to 800 yd shots during WWI with Springfield 03A3s with iron sights.
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Torture tests don't rule out either one as a good choice.
Rinsing it off in the pond,.... than 1100 rds. for the AR.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5CQOvdYW6c&NR=1
and for the AK,....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn9WcjsSr_I&feature=related
Well, How bout that?