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Member Section => Politics & RKBA => Topic started by: Rastus on November 12, 2019, 01:32:41 PM
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Just a little prelude. Option 3 is a real option and the reason for this poll.
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I'll take "The Clinton dead pool!" for $1,000, Alex!
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When it comes to the Clinton Body Count, I no longer accuse anyone of wearing their armadillo shell too tight. The connections are too many, and too sound to dispute anymore. One or two maybe, and where there is smoke there is fire, but what do you say about the glow of the crematorium stack in B&H's backyard?
Seriously, or on the topic of the election, I think that the candidates are destroying each other, just like the GOP did four years ago. By they time there is a candidate they will have destroyed their chances. It will be close, but I believe that Trump has a better chance in 2020 than he did in 2016.
The impeachment? Smoke and mirrors that is nothing more than a way to distract everyone and avoid legislating. Pelosi knows there is no hope and no political gain. That is why she drug her feet and fought it so long. She finally had to do something, because her base was investing in tar, feathers, a rail, and a short rope.
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On the election, I think Trump will have to fight like hell just to overcome the voter fraud. He will take the "real" vote but the votes from illegals and dead voters will be enormous.
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The answer really is no one will WIN. there will be someone in the chair of power with their finger on the football, but no one will win.
The people will be more divided.
Anyone who votes third or fourth party will throw away their vote.
Everyone must pick the person they want to loose and vote the other major party.
The clear looser in the election will be the American people and possible the world. I do not care if you vote D or R.
We are beyond help this time.
I am not looking forward to the next 12 months (or should I say 355 days but who is counting). I think that the divisiveness that we say coming form the press during rule BHO will pale in comparison to what will come over the air for the next year. We just have to keep people form falling for it with out looking like crazies.
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The whole reason for this idiotic impeachment witch-hunt (and that is what it is) is because the Dems know that under "normal circumstances" none of the loons they have running can unseat Trump....especially if you look honestly at where we are now (don't take my word for it, look at the numbers) compared to six years ago or so.
They are trying to smear him, knowing that impeachment doesn't necessarily mean removal from office (remember William the Slick?) it does take away credibility and in their eyes (hopefully) elect-ability. Dragging Trump through the mud for four years (all while accomplishing little else and even blaming that on him and the few Reps left in DC with a spine) is the only plan they have to try and take the White House next year.
Third party voters may as well vote -D.
Voting third party (even if the candidate is a sound person) in order to prove a point accomplishes nothing in today's election process other than giving you a "clear conscience" about being an informed voter .....but we've moved too far away from "normal" for your conscience to matter (sorry if this hurts your feelings, **really I'm not, just being an adult).
If you want to keep a deranged socialist left-wing loon out of the White House, you must vote -R. Period.
Between sheeple, idiot voters, illegals and the dead it could be a tough row to hoe.
Then again, as silly and ridiculous as the -D party has got, maybe, just maybe some of their own are starting to look sideways at some of their ideologies.
One can hope anyway.
The only hope for America if the Dems do actually take the WH is for the Republicans to hold the Senate and regain the House.
This will be, undoubtedly, the most important election in the history of this nation.
Period.
The one-legged fat man is all-in for TRUMP 2020.
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The Democrats ARE running a BUNCH of idiots. It is my belief that early next year Killary will step in and look like the only "sane" one of the bunch to get the support of the party and she will run against Trump. That is one reason why I think voter fraud will be so high. She has had a LOT of experience with that when running against Bernie.
Lord, please help us all.
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A note about 3rd parties.
I am not sure the Republicans are 100% behind Trump....he is upsetting the Gravy Train of many RINOs too.
So, if, thru skulduggery, Trump does not get the Republican nomination and runs as a 3rd party candidate, we should not vote for him, but vote for whoever is the Republican nominee?
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Not all Republicans are supporting Trump, that's for certain. On the other hand, all Republicans are not Republicans....they are dimocruds who scooted over to the other side because that is what was required to get elected....which clearly defines them as liars for which they should be thoroughly exposed.
Clearly a large portion of the electorate are suckers. They fall for anything. Then there are the ones who feign some kind of higher purpose and meaning when all they want is for someone else to work for what they think they can get.
I don't focus on trying to get idiots to understand....I make fun of them. If they stay at home it's a win. If they feel ridiculed and vote our way it's a win-win.
Never underestimate the power of ridicule....
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Hmmm..ridicule might anger them into making sure they vote.
Instead tell then how the Dem. candidate is a Sure Thing, Shoo In. ...and invite them to a Victory Celebration that lasts most all of election day :) :)
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The democratic pool is a massive joke, or would be if the consequences were not so serious. Not one of them is any kind of leadership material, and each is trying to outdo the next in terms of pandering to the leftist mobs.
In reality, though, these cretins are actually inflicting permanent damage on this country, as they have opened the door and then repeatedly raised the bar for un-American and anti-American concepts, ideas and actions, thereby making it easier to adopt and accept them, such as we are seeing in CA, NY and VA at the moment.
Without a major cathartic action or event, and I mean a really nasty one which carries its own risks, this country is doomed, in spite of what Trump is trying to do to drain the swamp.
Forgot to add - yeah, Hillery is salivating at the chance to have a go again.
But the one who scares the crap out of at this time is Steyer. He is so polished that the masses might just fall for him, especially after he is so polished at repeating what the other dims have already said. His positioning himself as a centrist "nice guy" with great ideas - and keeping himself separate from the dim circus, is a well-thought out strategy.
Based on my years dealing with people, he strikes me as a seriously predatory wolf in sheep's clothing. He did run a hedge fund after all, whereas Trump tried to build things.
I really do think - to use Michael's metaphor - he is the one out of the crowd who would get the cattle cars rolling for us.
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Well, the worst governor in the twenty three years I've lived here just threw his do rag into the mix!
Patrick is just Obama lite, maybe a bit farther left of 44... He is very adept at spending other folks money!
God save us....
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Silver lining search here
Look at all the money all of the idiots are spending to get us to vote for them. That money is going to pay people. So the election that is driving us apart is going to stimulate spending. The more people in the race the more printing, mail and look at all those low income people who have jobs calling you at dinner time to ask you to vote for the irresponsible enemy of the constitution that they are being paid by. Please note that this comment is intended to offend all politicians of all parties I think the statement is true for 97% of them at all levels of government.
Did I find a silver lining
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I bet voter fruad will be insane this comming election
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I bet voter fruad will be insane this comming election
I agree. After all Trump has delivered, his popularity must be MUCH greater than when he was elected which means more folks will be voting for him. The flip side of that is any non-supports who did not vote last time will show up this time...but I'm guessing that is a low number.
With the increased Trump support, the only way he will be defeated at the polls if voter fraud.
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I agree. After all Trump has delivered, his popularity must be MUCH greater than when he was elected which means more folks will be voting for him. The flip side of that is any non-supports who did not vote last time will show up this time...but I'm guessing that is a low number.
With the increased Trump support, the only way he will be defeated at the polls if voter fraud.
Pay attention to what they don't want us to pay attention to: Look at the hard numbers on the economy, look at what is happening in international trade, look at the job market, ...
Pay attention to what the media is reporting: Endless hearings where the best sound bites are "Would you have done this," "Is his method intimidating, "Do you think anyone would have done it this way," ...
Smoke and mirrors, and they are having a hard time finding enough smoke, since they can't find the damaging fire.
By the way, the media is dragging out DACA again, but they are having a hard time reporting on it without showing that Pres. DJT gave fair warning and time for the Legislature to fix the issues before it would be addressed.
We are being lied to by most of our elected idiots and the talking heads - All of whom rely on the old system that Trump has exposed and is threatening.
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Pay attention to what they don't want us to pay attention to: Look at the hard numbers on the economy, look at what is happening in international trade, look at the job market, ...
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We are being lied to by most of our elected idiots and the talking heads - All of whom rely on the old system that Trump has exposed and is threatening.
Exactly, Mike. Not one word on the open insurrection - not "protests" - in Hong Kong. Follow Michael Yon online to get the real story on how this morphed from a protest over a proposed law transferring arrested people to Beijing for trial to, his words, open insurrection.
Not one word on the daily rocket firings by the palestinians into Israel. Thanks to Iron Dome, only 2 (?) people have been killed by the rockets, no word on how many through Israeli retaliation. Usually the MSM doesn't miss a chance to portray the Israelis as killing innocent children . . .
As for DC, they aren't all idiots, they are actually well organized and have become experts in manipulating the system for their own cause. And now they have an incredibly biased and complicit media to support them.
Similarly, Obama wasn't a weak or incompetent president - he actually accomplished much of what he (and his handlers) started out to do - remember "Hope and Change"? And change it he did, much of which is being undone by DJT.
Schiff is an idiot, no argument. When the likes of a third term Republican representative (Stefanick) can absolutely devastate Schiff's whole effort, there obviously isn't much there there. Still, he is being coached and led well.
As I keep telling my wife, the press only reports what they want, when they want and how they want. Truth - to the MSM anyhow - no longer matters, just the agenda.
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I have found two news sources I trust...neither on is on the air.
One is "The Epoch Times" and the other is "Judicial Watch".
You can subscribe to "The Epoch Times" for $1 for a trial month and $45 for a year if you like it. Can't beat that for a try out.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/
Click Subscribe in the line under the title.
Judicial Watch is a legal "watchdog" that works to keep government honest. A big job, I know... While they are neutral, they seem Conservative because most of their investigations are dealing with Liberal abuses. They have a news brief of a couple of pages a week you can subscribe to but they are always looking for donations...the work they do does not come cheap.
https://www.judicialwatch.org/
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So who got to Epstein?
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No one needed to get to Epstein. He was suicidal and from what I've read had the means within his sell to commit suicide.
I did not see the cell so this is just a possibility.
He had sheets that could be used to make a noose. There was a bunk bed and if he tied an end to the top bunk bed frame and then the noose around his neck with a length not not long enough to let his butt reach the ground, he could just jump up, extend his legs and the fall might snap his neck.
However, he was a criminal and damaging witness. Arranging for him to be able to commit suicide with no cell mate present, no guards around, he may have committed suicide.
Counter point is that the cameras were off...might have been nice if the suicide was taped, but here could be a few reasons for that...without cameras the camera watchers could not see him preping for suicide....
In any case, assisting in a witness's suicide to protect the guilty is the same as eliminating the witness by murder.
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So who got to Epstein?
It's not "who got to Epstein?"
The question is "who made sure Epstein had the tools and the time?"
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No one needed to get to Epstein. He was suicidal and from what I've read had the means within his sell to commit suicide.
I did not see the cell so this is just a possibility.
He had sheets that could be used to make a noose. There was a bunk bed and if he tied an end to the top bunk bed frame and then the noose around his neck with a length not not long enough to let his butt reach the ground, he could just jump up, extend his legs and the fall might snap his neck.
However, he was a criminal and damaging witness. Arranging for him to be able to commit suicide with no cell mate present, no guards around, he may have committed suicide.
Counter point is that the cameras were off...might have been nice if the suicide was taped, but here could be a few reasons for that...without cameras the camera watchers could not see him preping for suicide....
In any case, assisting in a witness's suicide to protect the guilty is the same as eliminating the witness by murder.
Actually, I have seen stories that for people on suicide watches the bed linens are paper-based so they tear easily.
The man appeared to show no remorse over his deeds, so why would he be suicidal?
Those facts, plus the various other facts (what little we actually are allowed to know) make this "suicide" appear to be other.
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Take a paper towel and wind it tight into a "cord" and see how strong it is. As sheet sized piece of paper could be folded into several twisted "ropes".
Epstein did have a reported suicide attempt a week or so prior to his death. That is why he was on suicide watch.
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The "hot mic" incident with Amy Robach and ABC shows that the Clinton's may not be the only ones who might have wanted harm to come to this monster! He was a blackmailing pedophile who probably had many enemies. I've seen interviews from several forensic pathologists who say that the broken bones in his neck lead them to believe that he could have been strangled and then staged as a suicide...
Either way, the prick is dead, Clinton is still a scumbag and his wife is NOT the president!
Trump will win...the "Schiff show" will make sure of it!
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Haven't read the whole report, but they are going after the staff that left Epstein alone.
What's the over under on body count before they testify?
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It's not "who got to Epstein?"
The question is "who made sure Epstein had the tools and the time?"
thats my take as well.
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So...the prison guards have been arrested for falsifying records. What a surprise!
I doubt they can be squeezed to the point of squealing and if they are squeezed enough to spill the juice....I'm betting they disappear or lose their voice....
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So...the prison guards have been arrested for falsifying records. What a surprise!
I doubt they can be squeezed to the point of squealing and if they are squeezed enough to spill the juice....I'm betting they disappear or lose their voice....
i bet they get off pn some technicality, the judge will be a dem, make some strange ruling amd then retire
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Seems to be a repeated pattern.....
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Hmmm..ridicule might anger them into making sure they vote.
Instead tell then how the Dem. candidate is a Sure Thing, Shoo In. ...and invite them to a Victory Celebration that lasts most all of election day :) :)
No. Ridicule in the right way embarrasses people. If, for instance, you are speaking to a buddy and there is a group huddled around bring up some dumb thing "their guy" did and laugh at it. It's very powerful after a while...you'll begin to notice their weaker brethren grinning when you make fun of their bozo. It's working....