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Title: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Rastus on December 19, 2019, 06:43:42 AM
Below is a link to the official White House website that presents President Trump's letter to the House Speaker concerning his impeachment. 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/letter-president-donald-j-trump-speaker-house-representatives/ (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/letter-president-donald-j-trump-speaker-house-representatives/)

I read a clip about these actions against the presidency are less a coup and more a civil war.  It led credence towards this being a long and protracted civil war against the republic by unelected government officials and a relentless left neither of which are beyond using lies and violence to accomplish their goals.

Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: MikeBjerum on December 19, 2019, 05:29:43 PM
Had to say "no I'm an ...", just because Pelosi and her tribe are too stupid to be taken serious.

How can she stand there with a straight face and claim the Senate will not be fair after the dog and pony show they just put on?

Send the damn Articles over to the Senate, and let the process continue!
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: TAB on December 19, 2019, 06:07:45 PM
She does not want them  to put him on trial, it will make them  look even worse.
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Jim Kennedy-ar154me on December 20, 2019, 07:41:40 AM
She does not want them to put him on trial, it will make them look even worse.

Right. It has NEVER been about convicting him. From the start, it has been about trying to make him LOOK BAD. She has failed but is following the party line of 10,000 repetitions make it true. The rank and file Democrat in the street are too ignorant to know or care.
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Solus on December 20, 2019, 11:39:34 AM
Right. It has NEVER been about convicting him. From the start, it has been about trying to make him LOOK BAD. She has failed but is following the party line of 10,000 repetitions make it true. The rank and file Democrat in the street are too ignorant to know or care.

That gave me a thought of a solution. 

Since very many "Democrat in the street" do live in metropolitan areas with crosswalks, if we jimmied the Walk/Don't Walk signals to be off, they might be decimated following the signs directions.....
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: MikeBjerum on December 21, 2019, 10:38:33 AM
Here is what I see happening with these Articles of Impeachment:

Mrs. Pelosi will sit on them for a while.  Mr. Schumer will run a dog and pony show to make it look like he is trying to get a fair trial - Fair for the Pres. DJT haters.  Pelosi will not release the Articles so the trial is going on at the time of the State of the Union.  She will make sure it is a hot topic for the week prior though.  Once the Dems have their chosen one, they will release the Articles and let the Senate start.  This will give them lots of negative spin to use in their campaigns.

It has been said for three years already that they cannot trust the voters to remove Pres. DJT from office.  Translation:  The American public does not want politics as usual anymore, and there is no way to change their minds, so we must cheat to save our asses.

I give Mrs. Pelosi credit and a slight nod of appreciation.  She has fought against impeachment for a long time, and I think she only gave in due to pressure from her party.  She knows that they have nothing, and that this is wrong enough that it will hurt them, or it will hurt them because it is wrong.  That said, she did buckle to pressure and play the game.

What do I see as an outcome of all of this?  I believe that the Articles will be moved to the Senate before the election.  If she holds them until after the election it will harm all Dems on the ticket.  When it hits the Senate, it will not be the limited trial that Pelosi and Schumer claim.  It will be in depth, and it will show not only he did nothing dangerous to our nation, but it will open the facts on both Biden and Clinton with tits wrong doing, and possibly even a little on BHO.
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: TAB on December 24, 2019, 03:09:57 PM
Make sure you call them again and demand pelosi send over the articles  to the Senate. 
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Majer on December 24, 2019, 10:44:47 PM
The senators running for president can not campaign while the impeachment trial is in session,They are required to be in the senate building., Releasing the articles to the senate would hurt the dem senators running, But would help biden.
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Timothy on December 25, 2019, 01:05:54 PM
Releasing the articles to the senate would hurt the dem senators running, But would help biden.

Actually, having them saddled with the impeachment trial may help their campaigns.  If they just STFU for a few minutes maybe folks won't realize what idiots there are!

 :o
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Majer on December 25, 2019, 02:16:51 PM
Well,Yes, there is that.
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: MikeBjerum on December 25, 2019, 06:37:06 PM
Here is a question:

There are two Articles that have been passed and are being held by the House.  The information is public knowledge.  Can the Senate begin the trial based on this, or are they required to wait?

Second question:

What would happen if the Senate were to proceed toward a trial prior to the Articles being delivered?

Third question (I know I said "a question," but I'm on a roll):

What if they were to petition the Court for a gag order on all those involved with the Articles or the trial to preserve the purity of the evidence?
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Solus on December 25, 2019, 08:04:57 PM
Well, if the Senate follows the lead of the Democratic House, it's a free for all.

They can do anything that is not very specifically and explicitly forbidden by law.

And anything that is can be given a go just to see how far it gets..

If you throw out any rule book or conformity to past protocols and observances, then anything goes!!  It's a Free For All!!.  To Hell with any semblance of order or respect for the Constitution, the Republic or the American Citizens.
 
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: MikeBjerum on December 25, 2019, 08:44:53 PM
I'm looking for something that follows the Law of the Land (Constitution), but that throws the smoke and mirrors farce back in the face of the Dems.
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Rastus on February 05, 2020, 04:02:52 PM
Well, the vote was taken.  The liars, cheats and thieves stuck together and Romney showed himself to be as petty as Nancy Pelosi by voting with them on the first article of impeachment.

I really hope the dimocrudic party loses big, big time this election cycle.  Also, someone in Utah should start an impeachment and removal action that benefits Mitt with a greatly shortened term in office. 
Title: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Timothy on February 05, 2020, 06:39:55 PM
Old Nancy is a feckless twat!
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Rastus on February 05, 2020, 06:41:39 PM
Timothy...you are too kind.
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Jim Kennedy-ar154me on February 06, 2020, 07:58:26 AM
Old Nancy is a feckless twat!

As Rastus said you are much too kind. I prefer to think of her as an alcoholic, bitter, has-been with illusions of grandeur coupled they the brains of a half-witted pissant and the common sense of a bowling pin.
Title: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Timothy on February 06, 2020, 08:37:21 AM
As Rastus said you are much too kind. I prefer to think of her as an alcoholic, bitter, has-been with illusions of grandeur coupled they the brains of a half-witted pissant and the common sense of a bowling pin.

Scary that she is only heartbeats away from the Oval Office...
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Rastus on February 07, 2020, 06:31:00 AM
I can't see how the dims don't lose the House of Representatives this election cycle.  If they do, the dims would be wise that if they ever do reclaim the House to never put such a bitter, partisan, pointy-hat broom rider back in control. 

If just one of the dim senators had stood back and done the right thing it would have opened them up to take the lead on the failing dim presidential candidates.  Bernie is a communist (oh joy) that the children are supporting, the Biden family crime syndicate is both flagging in the polls and is under investigation, Fauxcahontas isn't going to shake her lying past despite the sycophantic mob she controls, Mayor Pete will never get the black vote behind him because they aren't that way, Bloomberg will find he can't buy the substantial Bernie juvenile block and the rest of the group just ain't got the juice which means it was opportunity lost for a slippery character like Manchin who could have launched a winning bid to be the dim candidate. 

The propaganda machine of the totalitarian/criminal/communist/dictatorship left is really cranking out a disgusting comedy act these days....
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: crusader rabbit on February 08, 2020, 07:13:02 AM
Rastus, I agree with everything you postulate, but I think it goes a step beyond...

None of the current crop of Dummycraps has the juice to pull off a win.  So, it will go to a brokered convention where all bets are off.  I wouldn't be surprised to see the Hildebeast back in the mix.  What I don't see is any of the current brain-dead group getting the nod.  Bernie will get his foolish group of kids to support him.  Biden is out of time and out of gas.  Fauxcohantas is widely recognized as a lying bitch and will never generate serious support.  Nanny Bloomberg is a sniveling piece of crap and despite his money will not generate support among the common man.  And I just don't think America wants a President who takes it up the butt.  Maybe that's sexist, but the boomer generation grew up thinkinging that it is sexual perversion.  He won't get their vote and he won't get the black vote, either.  That makes him dead in the water.  Klobucher, Yang, Steyer and the rest have too little support to make a difference.

So, it goes to a brokered convention where names like Mooshell Odamna or Opra will be bandied about.  I think Trump will win, but it's going to be a very nasty fight.

Crusader Rabbit
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Solus on February 08, 2020, 09:04:12 AM
You know, there is an interesting concept with Bloomberg...

He could campaign on Trump's success...might make him a pariah in the Party, but might resonate with the voters....

Bloomberg:  "As Trump has shown, a successful businessman (or person) can do a better job of getting the economy on a firm footing than others holding office.  I am that businessman without all of Trump's hate and bigotry (and any other meaningless traits and faults). Vote for me and Make America Greater!"
 
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: PegLeg45 on February 08, 2020, 02:34:14 PM
You know, there is an interesting concept with Bloomberg...

He could campaign on Trump's success...might make him a pariah in the Party, but might resonate with the voters....

Bloomberg:  "As Trump has shown, a successful businessman (or person) can do a better job of getting the economy on a firm footing than others holding office.  I am that businessman without all of Trump's hate and bigotry (and any other meaningless traits and faults). Vote for me and Make America Greater!"

That's a sobering thought.
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: TAB on February 08, 2020, 06:14:40 PM
That's a sobering thought.

Its a true one as well.

You could give me control of any federal agency.  With in 6 months i could slash thr operational budget in half and thr production would be 25% higher.
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Rastus on February 09, 2020, 07:46:02 AM
Day one on running a fed agency.  Who is griping?  Cut off the internet connections.
Day two, fire the gripers.
Day 3, who is griping now?
Day 4, fire the add-on gripers.
Day 5, Get to work.  There will be a 30% reduction in 45 days.  Find a way to do good things for our bosses, the American people or be part of the 30....
Title: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Timothy on February 09, 2020, 09:18:08 AM
Day one on running a fed agency.  Who is griping?  Cut off the internet connections.
Day two, fire the gripers.
Day 3, who is griping now?
Day 4, fire the add-on gripers.
Day 5, Get to work.  There will be a 30% reduction in 45 days.  Find a way to do good things for our bosses, the American people or be part of the 30....

That 30% can train to be coders!
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: PegLeg45 on February 09, 2020, 02:50:23 PM
Its a true one as well.

You could give me control of any federal agency.  With in 6 months i could slash thr operational budget in half and thr production would be 25% higher.

Indeed.
Look what Trump the business man has done even against all the obstacles. Can you imagine what could've got done with congressional support?

The sobering thought was Bloomberg convincing the voters that he cold do it better and them falling for it.
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Solus on February 09, 2020, 04:41:27 PM
Indeed.
Look what Trump the business man has done even against all the obstacles. Can you imagine what could've got done with congressional support?

The sobering thought was Bloomberg convincing the voters that he cold do it better and them falling for it.

Also note that the last effective President before Trump was Ronald Reagan...an actor!!  Not as remarkable as Trump for getting economic things done, but what can you expect from an actor?  =)  More than from a politician, however.

Title: Re:....you are declaring open war on American Democracy
Post by: Timothy on February 09, 2020, 05:52:54 PM
But Ronnie was also the governor of our largest state!

None of the twits running besides Bloomy and Steyer have run anything!

Bootygag ran the fourth largest city in IN and got 10k votes in his last election!  Yea, 80% of votes cast(14k) but there're 100k people in South Bend!

These folks are no more qualified than Hildabeast or Obama...
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: TAB on February 09, 2020, 06:08:42 PM
Indeed.
Look what Trump the business man has done even against all the obstacles. Can you imagine what could've got done with congressional support?

The sobering thought was Bloomberg convincing the voters that he cold do it better and them falling for it.

To be fair i am sure he could do a better job than all the other dims running combined.

I dont trust him becuase of his anti bill of rights stance.. and i am not even talking about guns.  His stop and frisk program was horrible and i doubt it stopped a single crime.
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Jim Kennedy-ar154me on February 10, 2020, 08:45:24 AM
I don't trust him because of his anti bill of rights stance.. and I am not even talking about guns.  His stop and frisk program was horrible and I doubt it stopped a single crime.

Stop and frisk, can't buy large soda's, Gun Control, etc.. He simply reeks of being 100% power-hungry. He wants to do nothing less than CONTROL the entire world. I would have said free world but under his control, we would be anything BUT free.
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: MikeBjerum on February 15, 2020, 12:55:54 PM
The Democrats' best hope is to praise Pres. DJT for the business side of his presidency.  Praise the economy and the promising future.  Then counter it with Bloomberg as a good ugly one percenter who will bring all the liberal good while protecting the economy.
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: TAB on February 15, 2020, 01:13:02 PM
I dont think  bloomberg has a chance of winning.  I saw were even the young turks are against him.( which is funny as hell is he has every thing they want in a candidate)  i am not even sure if he could  wim N.Y.  vs another dem.  He was not well liked as mayor.



Something else that is scary, he is thinming about hrc  as his vp...   i can see it now, he swears in, then steps down.  I know the stock on tin foil just jumped up with that statement, but i can see it happening.
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Solus on February 15, 2020, 03:30:35 PM

Something else that is scary, he is thinming about hrc  as his vp...   i can see it now, he swears in, then steps down.  I know the stock on tin foil just jumped up with that statement, but i can see it happening.

That would be the wisest thing he could do.  At least he'd survive HRC's succession.
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Rastus on February 15, 2020, 05:05:29 PM
Right now I think the coronavirus is going to invite itself here and by election time people will not care too much about changing out a prez that does something about problems....
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: TAB on February 16, 2020, 07:18:26 PM
The scarry thing is i think hrc is actually less evil.

Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Rastus on February 17, 2020, 05:49:20 AM
I agree.

Mikey should reread the Vince Foster case.  Maybe take a look at Mena, Arkansas, goings on....

If I were Mikey I probably would not invite the vampire in the house....
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: MikeBjerum on February 18, 2020, 10:26:13 PM
I would be shocked if Mikey chose Clinton as a mate.  I'm thinking Obama.  Why else would BHO be endorsing him except to get his wife out of the house?
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Rastus on February 19, 2020, 06:44:26 AM
That's a shocking thought....
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: MikeBjerum on February 22, 2020, 06:49:35 AM
Headlines in the paper this morning are that Sanders has been informed that the Russians are attempting to help him win the nomination.

Are the Russians trying to help anyone?

Are the Russians playing mind games with us?

Is there a shadow group in our own political game messing with our elections and using the word russian to mess with the people?

Is our media too stupid to not repeat everything they hear?
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Majer on February 22, 2020, 11:01:35 AM
Headlines in the paper this morning are that Sanders has been informed that the Russians are attempting to help him win the nomination.

Are the Russians trying to help anyone? only themselves

Are the Russians playing mind games with us?probably

Is there a shadow group in our own political game messing with our elections and using the word russian to mess with the people?Very likely

Is our media too stupid to not repeat everything they hear?
YES
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: TAB on February 22, 2020, 05:15:06 PM
Im before the Russians  cuased trump to win again...
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Rastus on February 22, 2020, 07:01:56 PM
What Majer said.
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: tombogan03884 on May 04, 2020, 03:16:03 PM
But the GD sheep are tolerating it .   :(   WTF do they think those 2A rights were for ?
Title: Re: ".....you are declaring open war on American Democracy."
Post by: Rastus on May 06, 2020, 06:26:38 AM
Too many sheep.  But not everyone.  Check out this Marine's response to the California Governor's thugs...

https://americanactionnews.com/politics/lone-marine-bravely-defies-democrat-governors-lockdown-police/ (https://americanactionnews.com/politics/lone-marine-bravely-defies-democrat-governors-lockdown-police/)