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Member Section => Down Range Cafe => Topic started by: billt on May 28, 2020, 11:04:06 AM
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The blacks are at it again. And what's worse is the DOJ is now saying it will engage in, "Robust" legal action. What the DOJ needs to be "Robust" about, is jailing and convicting all of the looters and rioters. Since when does lawlessness promote "robust" legal action? That's insane! Perhaps I should burn down my neighbors house, because his dog crapped in my yard.
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2 things never stolen during riots.
Fathers day cards and work boots.
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Where I come from "robust legal response" includes shotguns, and gas. ;D
I'll try to rewrite something I posted on facebook.
These Blacks might have a valid gripe about badge heavy LEO gestapo wannabees who should be killed.
But they completely discredit any justification by looting and always defending scum bags who were already being arrested and deserved to have their asses kicked
Be a lot more effective if they fought the cops instead of stealing booze and a new TV.
Be a lot more effective if they defended an unambiguous victim like the Churches being harassed by the same force.
Maybe stick up for the Jews subjected to Nazi harassment by NYPD.
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These Blacks might have a valid gripe about badge heavy LEO gestapo wannabees who should be killed.
But they completely discredit any justification by looting and always defending scum bags who were already being arrested and deserved to have their asses kicked
Be a lot more effective if they fought the cops instead of stealing booze and a new TV.
Be a lot more effective if they defended an unambiguous victim like the Churches being harassed by the same force.
Maybe stick up for the Jews subjected to Nazi harassment by NYPD.
Never let a good crisis go to waste.
I have not seen the videos but I'm suspicious about people in uniform because I know quite a few and there are bad apples.
I expect the riots to expand. The communist-socialist-democrats have a vested interest in the riots. They know they are losing the presidential election. The "leadership" of cities and states will simultaneously bow down to the rioters and inflame them.....just enough to keep this going but not enough to actually get to the suburbs (actually there will likely be one or two for maximum effect) to scare people and somehow make them feel guilty about voting for Trump.
The communist-socialist-democrats have never had an opportunity this good before in the U.S.A. The economy is tamped down due to a disease which causes problems with all, not just the poor. Screaming about a lack of centralized control. And remember, lying is OK with communist-socialist-democrats. It's always all about the communist-socialist-democrat-tyrants being in power over the masses and telling them what to do and how to do it and how great they are and how magnanimous they are while they live in their mansions having their every whim catered too. The uneducated/indoctrinated masses will lick their boots....as we have seen and see in Europe and across the world.
A lot of blood and life has been left here and on foreign battlefields so that this would not be.
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Isn't it interesting that with in hours of the failed impeachment we have a "Pandemic" that has effected less than 0.1 % of the WORLD population, and when 2 months complete shut down leaves the economy still 4000 points ( 5-25-2020) higher than 8 years of Obama "recovery", BOOM, Schools out, warm weather comes along and it's riot season again.
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Almost like a coordinated plan.
I still wonder how the drug loving Biden child, Whitey Bulger's nephew and John Kerry's stepson were able to get over a billion in funding from the Chinese for their hedge fund. Having worked in a responsible position that accessed a couple hundred million with access to several hundred million more I know it isn't easy to get $$$'s for investment like that. It takes a track record and a lot of oversite.
Also strange how our freedom of navigation patrols in the South China Sea stopped after the financing thing was accomplished. And we all know that Obama did say that he took his cue on China from VP Biden.
And I really believe the Wuhan Flu was because a bat, during hibernation season, leaked some virus on the way to being eaten by a Chinese miscreant....
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ARGH. I had a good reply all typed up and lost it instead of loading.
Pisses me off.
Still less hassle than writing a letter which would still go astray I guess.
Any way, high points as I recall them, Whitey was the honest 1. His Brother Billy, Mass senate President for about 20 years, retired as President of U Mass as the highest State pension in Mass history.
His last official act in the senate was a huge raise in U Mass presidents pension.
But I guarantee you the Kerry's and Bulger's never cooperated on anything. They hate each other to the point of Whitey taking an interest. It was Billy who coined the JFK tag for Kerry, "Just For Kerry"
I forget most of what else I had except the bat thing is bs based on some jack ass not knowing what a Pangolin is.
What it actually is, is, halfway between "Ooh, isn't that cute ?" and "Where's my shotgun ?" ;D
Google isn't exactly my friend, but like the dentist or lawyers they do have their uses. ;D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangolin
Another thing that strikes me is that there haven't really been that many riots like this since Trumps 1st year, and some pretty good opportunities have been allowed to pass.
They weren't needed because the dems had Russian collusion and impeachment to attempt and didn't want the homeboys distracting the sheeple.
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None of the burned-out businesses should rebuild in any of the areas where rioting and looting is taking place (mainly talking of dept stores auto parts, etc). Just let the places become Somalia-esque ghost towns....when a SOB has to drive 20 miles to buy a loaf of bread or an oil filter instead of around the block, serves hi right.
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There are “peaceful protests” going on in our quiet little city now, too. I had to run to Walmart to get some groceries, but the store is closed and there are pallets of water and other heavy items blocking the doors from the inside. I guess that’s in case the “peaceful protesters” decide they want a new big screen tv.
My conspiracy-theory senses are tingling, and I wonder when Biden will appear on television (with Obama behind him) and call for an end to the violence and return to civility. At which point the “peaceful protests” magically stop. Then the MSM can say “See, that’s what a REAL leader looks like!”
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There are “peaceful protests” going on in our quiet little city now, too. I had to run to Walmart to get some groceries, but the store is closed and there are pallets of water and other heavy items blocking the doors from the inside. I guess that’s in case the “peaceful protesters” decide they want a new big screen tv.
My conspiracy-theory senses are tingling, and I wonder when Biden will appear on television (with Obama behind him) and call for an end to the violence and return to civility. At which point the “peaceful protests” magically stop. Then the MSM can say “See, that’s what a REAL leader looks like!”
Had similar thoughts yesterday.
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My conspiracy-theory senses are tingling, and I wonder when Biden will appear on television (with Obama behind him) and call for an end to the violence and return to civility. At which point the “peaceful protests” magically stop. Then the MSM can say “See, that’s what a REAL leader looks like!”
They better make sure he's facing the right direction, got his fly zipped and based on recent performance maybe he should just lip sync.
The fact is that we are seeing riots because it's all the Dems have left.
They filtered their very best through the primaries, and the best of the best is, "Joe Biden ? Really ?
Donald Trump is the first President since George Washington to run unopposed.
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5:30 mark
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Stolen and shared.
I will bet $5 that a thorough search of Craigslist, and Democrat Underground will reveal help wanted ads from Soros funded Organizations.
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None of the burned-out businesses should rebuild in any of the areas where rioting and looting is taking place (mainly talking of dept stores auto parts, etc). Just let the places become Somalia-esque ghost towns....when a SOB has to drive 20 miles to buy a loaf of bread or an oil filter instead of around the block, serves hi right.
Most of these businesses in Minneapolis and St Paul are neighborhood businesses. It is true Old America. It is people coming to this nation, working hard, opening a business to serve their community, and making a living at it. La Alborada is one of our good customers and great people. Their store was invaded yesterday, after the National Guard arrived and after the curfew, and the interior is nearly destroyed. Their meat counter, the part we deal with, is totally destroyed - Over 30' of old style glass display counter destroyed.
These people live there, their families are their, their friends are their, and their loyal customers are there! These people will rebuild!
Supermercado Morelia survived. They closed, they boarded up, and the owner and two of his employees sat inside with loaded guns answering the fists on their doors with promise of swift death if breached.
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Detroit riots Friday night and Grand Rapids MI riots Saturday night. Grand Rapids mayor, not the governor called out the national guard. My niece's restaurant in downtown Grand Rapids was trashed by the terrorist.
In my opinion, Big Gretch, the governor of Michigan, essentially condoned the rioting with her passive weak response that did not condemn the the rioters. Her sickening response, delivered on twitter is here:
https://twitter.com/GovWhitmer/status/1267174412559749122?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Link works!
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If shit could look like a woman, It would look like Whitmer.
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What's funny is you would almost think they've developed a vaccine for COVID. I haven't heard a word about it or, "social distancing" from the liberals in a week. Now they're all wearing masks to hide their identity, while they rub assholes and elbows destroying everything. Not to protect them from some "bug", they wanted Trump to lock the entire country down for until doomsday.
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A cop buddy of mine worked downtown Tulsa yesterday evening/last night. ANTIFA was the agitator there....they had the communist bar and sicle out and had AK-47's parading around. A lot of out-of-towners....
"A real "shitshow.", were his exact words.
So today I'm driving back to Tulsa from Arkansas for a meeting. I'm having to pick a route around potential issues.
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Wife had an appointment in Boston this week.
Not happening! I’m not going anywhere near the cities!
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I work in downtown Louisville just 2 blocks from the starting point for the riots in our town. While we haven't been in the news as much as others we HAVE seen a lot of damage. Since we are right next to Police headquarters and across the street from the Judicial Center (Court) it has amazed be our building has not sustained damage. I have to go to work to keep the bills paid but do not relish the thought of being so close to a major boiling over point. 4 nights straight now we have had riots.
These riots are NOT about race (anymore). They are simply anarchy. They are attempting to bring down the entire system.
Yes, I think the Democrats are behind this. Probably China as well. I know I am on the edge and if this keeps up there will start to be a LOT of bloodshed. I do not wish for a civil war. I do not think the anarchists really understand what that will do to them, BUT if there is to be war I am of the opinion to let it start and get down to it. I am so tired of the crap building up over the past years that I am ready for what will inevitably come.
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The pd did not mess around here 46 arrested. The misses is at work now, and she got a heavily armed escort. I will pick her up after work and once again, heavily armed. You can protest all you want, but start becoming violent or interfering with streets/ businesses/ .gov agencies. Is where i draw the line.
I mean why on earth would you protest something that happened more than 1000 miles away, is being handeld according to the law and does not effect you in any way.
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The pd did not mess around here 46 arrested. The misses is at work now, and she got a heavily armed escort. I will pick her up after work and once again, heavily armed. You can protest all you want, but start becoming violent or interfering with streets/ businesses/ .gov agencies. Is where i draw the line.
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I don't always agree with TAB's idea's on property rights, but I darn well do this time.
AR154me, You are absolutely correct.
Subversion failed and we elected Trump,
Impeachment failed, Total shut down left us better off than Obama's best day,
The choice is rely on Joe Biden to save the day at the election, or resort to street violence and go the Guerilla warfare route.
Which would you bet your agenda on ?
This is a text book case of a failing revolution, like Algiers in 1961, or the Arab spring, or Hitler's take over of Germany.
If the street activists are crushed, arrested, beat, and killed, in large numbers the whole Socialist movement in America will die.
The other option is turning the whole country into Beirut.
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All this bull$h!t has nothing to do with "protesting". The liberals know now they're in the minority, and they can't change the system unless they're in power. And they are losing it quickly. They're all still in shock that Trump not only won, but in all likelihood will win again. So they want to crash the country any way they can. They know by doing that, special measures will be taken by the government that will allow far more control, that otherwise would never come into play.
They wanted to crash the economy with lock downs from COVID. That didn't work any better than Russia!, Russia!, Russia! So now in their typical, "never let a good crisis go to waste", fashion, they're all trying to pump up this whole, black kneel on his neck, thing by causing as much anarchy as possible. Anywhere and everywhere they can.
This will only end by war. Trump is now talking about calling in the 101st Airborne. Blood is going to have to be spilled. There is no way to reason with these people. It was just a year or so ago Hillary said it won't end until they, (liberal Democrats), are back in power. That's not going to happen any time soon.... If ever. These assholes are making enemies faster, and losing more votes every day. Biden has no chance. Assuming he even runs. This is without question, the biggest clusterf*#k I've ever seen in 67 years of living. And it's going to get a lot uglier.
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AGITPROP... agitation & propaganda ... the op plan was written a long time ago, and in Cyrillic
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Last night the whole country has gone off the rails with this completely insane shit. Cops getting shot left and right in Vegas and St. Louis. In New York a cop was run over and murdered... All caught on camera. The only way to win this now is to run up a bigger body count than they can. I'm so glad we got the hell out of Phoenix when we did! A large metropolitan area is NOT where you want to be now, or anytime in the near future, that's for God damn sure.
If Trump issues shoot to kill orders on these assholes, he'll have an entire nation behind him.
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Last night the whole country has gone off the rails with this completely insane shit. Cops getting shot left and right in Vegas and St. Louis. In New York a cop was run over and murdered... All caught on camera. The only way to win this now is to run up a bigger body count than they can. I'm so glad we got the hell out of Phoenix when we did! A large metropolitan area is NOT where you want to be now, or anytime in the near future, that's for God damn sure.
If Trump issues shoot to kill orders on these assholes, he'll have an entire nation behind him.
Interesting comments from Sam Culper (pseudonym for ex-mil spook) on ick-book to the extent that the antifa types have more in common with the pre-1776 American revolutionaries than do we (in tactics, not philosophy), as we sit on our collective asses and hit the keyboard, all the while they are hitting the streets. Trouble is, we are waiting for trouble to come to us while they are making inroads and progress with the support of the media.
I keep asking for someone to check with Claire Wolfe and ask if now is the time??
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There was a big deal about a dodge dually truck driver running over some Floyd protesters here in Tulsa. They spilled over to an Interstate Highway loop downtown and shut down the interstate. Protesters started attacking the horse trailer and the truck so he drove off.
Some silly ass white kids got run over. Some minor boo boos...but it's the end of the world, right? It would not surprise me if they aren't rich white kids looking for a thrill.
I'm with the driver...he was in a mob that was attacking his property and it is more than reasonable to assume he was next. Drive on....
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You all are starting to get it. Les Snyder is right dead on.
Just like with the Saul Alinsky, it is a worn well practiced and proven script.
Every one thinks this is some kind of current Anti Trump thing.
IT IS NOT !
This is the final phase of the Cold War you thought you won. (you = general public )
You never even identified the enemy, they were at Berkley and Harvard, not the Kremlin.
Now they have the Media control, #1 ) control the narrative, control information. You think Fox is better ?
How often to they stray from the "media narrative" when do they cover something the others aren't talking about ? They know that by having some Conservative shows will put them above the others and still let them participate in the smokescreen.
2) Control education, Give me the young for 6 years and they will be Communists for life, Stalin and Lenin both said it but spelling Lenin's party is a PITA. During the Algerian Crisis French Authorities counted the Teachers Union among the available TROOPS because they mobilize their students for violent action. Look around, Schools out.
I'm not sure any body did like Alinsky and wrote it out as a "To Do" list format, but with a good study of communist insurrections and insurgency you could.
This one is at the make or break point.
Trump as beaten them politically even with their partisan judges.
He beat them among industrialists with his economy,
If we crush the SA, or Antifa or what ever they call themselves this time, we can start purging the Socialism from our culture.
Keep letting them run wild and the Swamp will reinforce success,
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Option to consider is the County Sheriff in counties where riots are growing is to deputize all citizens who have received their Concealed Carry permit (or other proof of reliability) and move to stop the riots.
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Grady Judd is Sheriff of Polk County which borders Hillsborough (Tampa) and Pasco (where I live)... typical response that makes him a darling to most of us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQF2SFz0A0I
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We need to CLONE that guy ;D
I am not the only one just waiting for a creditable figure to call for volunteers.
By the way. If you have a good sheriff watch out for him. Ours seems OK, but the libs have started working to undermine him by airing, illegally I'm pretty sure, Dept. personnel matters.
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We have a good one, Sheriff that is. He holds a Corn Boil for charity every year and really encourages everyone in the community to come out and meet and greet, him and his deputies. Good PR, good campaign and good community relations. The Sheriff in our county is only responsible for the jail, serving warrants and courthouse security, not regular law enforcement, unless called upon by the County Police for assistance.
He has been under attack this year more so than in the past.
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I'm sorry, but I'm sick and tired of listening to all of this. The fact is you have a few bad cops. You have ALWAYS had a few bad cops. You ALWAYS WILL HAVE a few bad cops. Occasionally this will result in someone unnecessarily losing their life because of it. The same as bad pilots crash airliners and kill people in the process. The same as bad doctors make bad medical decisions, and kill people.
When this happens we have a legal system in place that deals with it. Usually by giving the surviving family members money to compensate them for their loss. Because that is all they can do. And if there was a crime committed, or extreme negligence, the offender will go to jail. But the fact is you will NEVER stop it. This is the part blacks don't get. You can only try to minimize it. And the fact is that it's not as bad as the blacks want you to believe. They are not interested in "justice". They want revenge through violence and destruction. Sure they denounce it, but the fact is they are the one's who are causing it. And we, mostly as whites, end up paying the price for it.
"Black Lives Matter" does not give a damn about the 95% of the blacks who are killed on a daily basis by other blacks. They only "care" when a white kills them. And if it happens to be a white police officer, then down comes the cities in flames. Because that is their idea of "justice". And I'm sick and tired of the whole silly, stupid game. George Floyd's death was an unnecessary tragedy. And the hundreds of millions of dollars of destroyed businesses and property, that were lost by people who had nothing to do with any of it, is an even bigger one. It's just one that, "Black Lives Matter" doesn't give a rats ass about. So you'll have to pardon me all to hell if I don't give a rats ass about them. Because I don't.
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Bill, this has nothing at all to do with cops .
They are just a rather predictable tool to continue the communist insurgency that has failed miserably at the ballot box and the economy.
This is the beginning of civil war.
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Now Minneapolis' City Council wants to disband the police department and "start fresh with a community-oriented, non-violent public safety and outreach capacity." What could possibly go wrong?
https://theminnesotasun.com/2020/06/04/minneapolis-council-member-says-city-council-looking-into-disbanding-police-making-modern-policing-a-thing-of-the-past/ (https://theminnesotasun.com/2020/06/04/minneapolis-council-member-says-city-council-looking-into-disbanding-police-making-modern-policing-a-thing-of-the-past/)
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You won't believe it, but I KEPT MY MOUTH SHUT ! :-X ;D
I went down to observe the protest here. I had an idea of keeping an eye on my friends coffee shop.
I watched the agitators getting it organized so every one knew the words.
Then they marched around the outside perimeter of the business district, learned the rest of the words and did it again.
They were not allowed to go past all those tempting windows on main street.
To bad, they missed a cool sidewalk gun show.
I saw AR's, AK's, some kind of pump shotgun and about 50 pistols . I didn't see the 2 guy's with scoped rifles on the roof, but I heard about it when the cops asked them to come down stairs , after the marching ;D
Then there were about 30 bikers gathered at the monuments in Veterans Square.
I saw some fairly surprising people sitting out front of their stores .
All in all I'd say every one had a good time , just not the same good time. ;D
They got to chant like savages,
We got our message across,
and I got the proof that I'm not a lone voice around here . ;D
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We had a similar situation happen here. The ass wipes were outnumbered by at least hundred to one easily. Bikes and bikers everywhere. The Mohave County Militia was there.... With a big trailer, banners, and huge P.A. system that looked like one of those old Civil Defense warning horns. You could hear them blocks away. All were armed to the teeth. Lot's of AR's and short barreled Mossberg's. After about an hour of being totally outnumbered and shouted down, they left to crawl back into whatever hole they crawled out of.
It all went badly for them. There were some fat, ugly white women with them. The kind that went home alone at closing time. The thing was supposed to last from 9:00 AM until 6:00 PM. We took a ride into town around 10:00 AM to see what was going on. (There was no way I was going to miss this!) And they were already on the downside of a bad day. Around 1:00 in the afternoon I went to Harbor Freight in town, which was in a strip mall where they all were, and there wasn't a single one of them. The bars were all packed with bikes parked out front everywhere. They were all inside celebrating. I couldn't count all the Trump 2020 flags flying everywhere.
One of the nit wits was carrying a sign that read, "Havasu would rather grab their guns, than support the black community!". The dip shits didn't stop to think a lot of people moved here to GET AWAY from the black community. They sure as hell know it now. I doubt they'll be back anytime soon. The worst part of the day for me was I forgot my "20% OFF" coupon when I went to Harbor Freight. I was too excited to remember it! So I ended up paying full price for a new grease gun! But that was the only downside of my day.
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No one bothered trying to shout them down.
The Bikers haven't been able to get together since last fall, and with Bike Week canceled (Charlie Sinclair is a democrat St Rep He runs Laconia Bike Week Assoc. )They had to make the best of the occasion. ;D
Most of the Business' have been shut down for 2 1/2 months so the owners were getting caught up as well.
A few grills and it could have passed for a reunion.
(Sent the kids out so the grown ups could talk )
Thing is, it was 2 entirely alien cultures from the same physical area.
That's how the civil war will be.
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Grady Judd is Sheriff of Polk County which borders Hillsborough (Tampa) and Pasco (where I live)... typical response that makes him a darling to most of us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQF2SFz0A0I
I think of Grady as one of my few remaining heroes. I have outlived many of the others. But even the great Judd is not without fault. He came out publicly against open carry. Other than that, he's a pretty good guy and there are many stories about him that would tend to confirm that. One of the best involved a felon who had shot a K9 and his handler while trying to evade. They tracked him into a swampy area where the cretin decided to make a stand. He started shooting at the officers and Grady's officers started shooting back. When it was over, they counted up the perforations in the felon and came to an astounding number. When the press heard how many times the perp had been shot, they asked Grady why his men shot him 123 times. His response: "They ran out of bullets."
That's the kind of sheriff I can respect.
Crusader Rabbit
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We probably all seen this weekend the city councilman who plans to disband the police department and funnel,the money elsewhere.
So I'd think every entity would then form or contract out their own security forces. This includes the U of Minn, every building owner and shopping area. Of course that would mean the establishment of a whole bunch of little fiefdoms. And it would drive up employment for security guards. Who more willing and eager to fill those positions than out of work MPD officers. Same police force, fractured territories, different overlords.
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Well, Alf, you may be right. But likely the city will form a "Citizen's Brigade" comprised of volunteers to patrol the streets and entreat bad guys from, well, being bad I guess.
Of course you would need to identify them easily so you can call to them if you happen to encounter a bad guy. Maybe matching clothes of some sort. Too uniform-like to dress the whole person, maybe just the shirt, clearly visible, like the soccer refs. Only not too visible, wouldn't want the bad guys to spot the "Citizen's Brigade" members too easily now, would we. A nice subdued uniform consistent color, something earth-tone perhaps? I know, let's make the shirts brown, that'll work!
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If the police are defunded/disbanded in a locality, I'd expect to see firearms ownership double in that area.
Half the Antis would soon join the ranks of gun owners and half the 2nd Amendment supporters who don't own firearms would become owners.
And I do wonder what effect that would have on crime?
As statistics show, higher personal firearm ownership, the lower the crime rate...and I really doubt that the existence of a police force has much effect on that number.
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Crusader Rabbit, Has he been in office THAT long ? I've been laughing about that interview for ages ;D
Alf, and the city council gets to split up that extra money as insurance becomes unobtainable.
Lebanon Me where my Dad was Dog Officer, did away with their PD years ago. With in 30 days they had their first murder in over 100 years, and insurance rates doubled.
From what I've heard it is now the are center for Pot distribution,
Pathfinder, Stripes dude, ask your wife. Probably including yellow, green, purple and pink.
I asked some one else's wife ;D
Solus, That's what is driving the current buying boom.
Some one said a Liberal was a conservative who hadn't been mugged yet.
They yuppies are getting a look at the world outside their offices and suburbs and it scares the sh!t out of them.
It strikes me as a feminine reaction.
Flowers and sweetness until the merest threat then they kill.
When they are in the "Kill it" mode point out, "Nobody needs a gun was a lie, What else were you lied to about?"
As far as crime, it hit record lows during the shut down which amused me no end. I used it to claim even the Gang Bangers were grounded by Nanny Whitmer. :) But I actually suppose it's because every one was stuck home and getting mad. Even a Crack head can figure out THAT'S a bad idea. :)
I don't know if they will openly join groups like NRA, or Pink Pistols, but gun control is a dead issue.
They will still keep trying to screw us.
The threat won't go away, but if a candidate bases his campaign on banning those evil guns, they'll just not get votes, the libs will vote for abortion guy, or freebie guy and just ignore Gun control guy.
Or quietly vote Trump. :)
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Numerous articles talk about disbanding City Police departments refer to Camden, NJ as an example. There they formed a New County wide police dept to replace the city PD. The county PD will, for a fee, handle LEO activities of any of the other cities in the county. I would find it interesting how a PD that reports to the County elected officials puts any priorities on enforcing City ordinances.
However, none of the articles I've read so far does it seem the City is in communications with Hennepin County to handle law enforcement in the interim. Hennepin County has a Sheriffs department but I'm wondering it they have the manpower and budget to handle the extra load.
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Did they mention it was done because the democrat mayor had the budget so screwed up that the couldn't afford to pay the cops ?
Alf, what type of ordinances did you have in mind ?
When Lebanon did it the Sheriffs Dept pretty much ignored them.
When the resident said "F - U sue me." The Deputy would say, "Yeah, Go ahead."
Once the Judge issued anything then the County would act.
I believe York County charged Lebanon an annual fee but I don't know how much.
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Did they mention it was done because the democrat mayor had the budget so screwed up that the couldn't afford to pay the cops ?
Alf, what type of ordinances did you have in mind ?
Well it appears the mayor isn't exactly on-board with this idea. Hate to be him right now.
I don't have any ordinances in mind. My thoughts are:
1 - Better training and vetting of officers who are prone to brutish behavior. LEOs encounter people who will hurt them and need to be able and trained to respond. However, they need to be know when to de-escalate. Hard to do in the moment, I'm know. This week, this month, every video camera is trained on every confrontation. If the LEO is Buffalo who pushed the 75yo down had stopped immediately to render aid, it would have so changed the narrative, regardless of what led up to the shove.
2 - Rarely, if ever using no-knock warrants. Not the issue I realize in Minneapolis, at the moment, but part of the bigger picture.
3 - Do away with red-flags laws.
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We need to have a list published and plastered all over the Internet of every person and company who donated to Black Lives Matter. Along with how much.
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We probably all seen this weekend the city councilman who plans to disband the police department and funnel,the money elsewhere.
So I'd think every entity would then form or contract out their own security forces. This includes the U of Minn, every building owner and shopping area. Of course that would mean the establishment of a whole bunch of little fiefdoms. And it would drive up employment for security guards. Who more willing and eager to fill those positions than out of work MPD officers. Same police force, fractured territories, different overlords.
The Minneapolis stupidity won't affect the University of Minnesota. A couple months ago the U made it clear they wanted nothing to do with the Minneapolis PD. Since the Twin Cities are now known for two things, and it isn't their Scandinavian roots or Minnesota nice. The Twin Cities is the Wiccan capital of the world, and also contains the larges population of Somalians outside of Mogadishu - Let them protect the community!
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Alf, don't be foolish.
Those are way to sensible for most of those a holes to ever think of it.
But the red flag comment brings up counterattack.
While their base is scared sh!tless and buying guns faster than we are is the time to strike.
With so many new shooters who aren't use to the noise could help with hearing protection act, with so many braced pistols, what's the point in the SBR and SBS parts of NFA ?
NFA itself, is just a tax law, why do we still need that ?
Bill, I REALLY like that idea !
Mike, they'll get Warlords, just like in Somalia.
As for Wiccan's ? Some of you're best friends are.
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This is all starting to remind me of a boring high school subject that you hated, and had all you could do to remain awake in class. And get out of the semester with a "D". Because it consisted of the same boring crap over and over. I've been hearing about how "education" is going to fix all of this. How are you going to "educate" a bunch of animals. It's like trying to teach an inbred puppy to go fetch.
I've been listening to this crap since the 60's. We're no closer to solving it now, than we were then. Over 50 years of liberal teaching has gotten us here. And we're right on the brink. I'm at the point where I'm getting too old to even care anymore. I'm just going to load up and wait for it.
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This is all starting to remind me of a boring high school subject that you hated,
Now it's called history Bill.
Back then it was current events ;D
The reason we can't solve it, which after a black 2 term president I think is BS, is because the democrats based their entire policy to catering to divided segments of the population.
A perfect example of the population being to darned stupid to be trusted with self Govt.
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I keep asking people what exactly is being done that is racist. I have yet to get an answer... its almost an excuse. Oh wait.
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How come they tear down statues, ban flags, and want to rename military bases to "erase slavery".
But they keep voting for the party off slave owners and Jim Crow ?
It's the Democrats trying to erase their own sordid history.
Damn, that would make a good letter to the editor.
See ya later. ;D